Last Cal radio...

*CatinIL*

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Tom...What's atually changing? Sorry coach, but I had to ask

Cal: The transfer rule. Smooth, anything else?

--The G league thing. OK

--Top 3-5 players go to G league now. Noticed that.

--The likeness thing. You mean, you not liking the fans?

--The game itself changes. Yep, might want to learn some new things. How about a Zone D from time to time?

--Gotta space the court like we did with D Willis. OK

--This year our strength was throwing to the post. You mean they couldn't guard a fence post.

--Gonna have guys staying 3-4 years now. YEAH RIGHT! [laughing] Leave the stand up comedy to the professionals.

--Several guys went home this week. That's nice.

--These kids didnt get to experience the real Rupp. Lucky for them.

--No positives for 5 months. What? You coached them to 9 wins! That's a positive. It could have been worse.

--Now we gotta look further down from the top 5. ??? Are you talking about players? Because as far as teams go...DUDE, YOU'RE LOOKING UP AT EVERYONE!

--Will a kid transfer on you now? ???

--Proud of how they fought all year. Yep, Punch Drunk.

--I coached this year trying to give us a chance to win. YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT???

--Davion got better. Nice of you to say that.

--I expect to win every game.

--Gotta get back to the mental toughness. Yes you do.

--What if we have another summer like last year where we cant be together? It will be another miserable season then.

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Woodrow24

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I was just thinking the same thing. I think he's exactly right. Players staying longer is a good thought. Working on those last 3 minutes of games for this group is obviously key. How many games was this team in with 3 minutes to go and then wilted down the stretch? By the way, the previous year's team was just the opposite- they had multiple close games but always made the plays to win down the stretch. This year's team never figured that out.

In that regard, the biggest issue was the lack of guys who could just make plays- quick guards who could penetrate and finish or dish. We just didn't have that guy. Clarke might have become that. Boston can create but too inconsistent.

I like what I'm hearing- also needing skill over athleticism is right on the money. Cal has always valued athletes over skilled players but the game is changing.

Now, I agree with others. We want to see this in action.
I really believe this season will push him to make those changes he talked about. Going 9-16 and facing the criticisms and all the negatives that goes with that, I think will drive him to turn this around. Cal isn’t used to losing and this year is probably the worst season he has ever had as a head coach.
 
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track42

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Yeah, Sarr could hit a 3 better than he could hit a layup. That is what killed us inside. Jackson came on late but he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn early. Boston’s poor shooting is well chronicled. You're right. The 3pt shooting isn't what killed this team. It was missing shots 5 feet and in.
Sarr wasn't a back to basket type guy but Cal kept trying to turn him into it because it's all he had.It's a shame that Sarr and Oscar couldn't play together because they would have been a perfect fit.
 
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fatguy87

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True tho...........

We finished the year 33.6% from 3. We ended up being an average 3 point shooting team.

What killed us was the 45.5% from 2. That was good for 313th in the nation.

That number was so bad that we would have had better shooting numbers had we just took 100% of our shots from 3 lol.


Hahah yeah.

Sarr is an excellent example. His 2 point jumper % was 38 while his 3 FG% was 44.4%. We would have had so many better possessions through the course of the season if Sarr took 40% of his shots from 3 rather than just 13%.
 

revcort

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Sarr wasn't a back to basket type guy but Cal kept trying to turn him into it because it's all he had.It's a shame that Sarr and Oscar couldn't play together because they would have been a perfect fit.
Seems unlikely now, but maybe Sarr comes back and they get that chance next season?? You're right, Sarr wasn't a back to the basket guy AT ALL. He really needs to get stronger. If I were advising him, I'd suggest he take full advantage of UK's strength and conditioning program this summer and come back with a vengeance. He has the skill but just lacked the strength. He could be great next season.
 

Jmeeks54thebest

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True but according to PolitiFact


"She WAS on the warrant as was her car & her apartment"
This is true. But again, Taylor herself was not the main target of the narcotics investigation.

Taylor’s information was on the search warrant based on police’s belief that her ex-boyfriend "used her home to receive mail, keep drugs or stash money earned from the sale of drugs," the Louisville Courier Journal reported.

Taylor had no criminal record, and police officers didn’t find any drugs or illicit cash in her home.


Why do people in this thread keep saying she was a drug dealer? There was no drugs in her house and she had no criminal record.
I don’t know why folks are saying that. I don’t think she was a drug dealer. the evidence points to the contrary. And I follow the facts and evidence.
 
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ryanbruner

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Oh great, he referenced next year being like 2014......... like we want to lose 12 games and pray the team finally plays decent in the NCAAT.

He really does think sucking sh*t all year and having 4 good games in 3 weeks of the NCAAT is good here at UK.
So getting to the national championship game is......bad? Interesting. I didn’t know this.
 

*CatinIL*

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Jan 2, 2003
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Cal: The '78 team was a tough team mentally and physically. YES they were. I can just imagine what the 78 team would have done to this years bunch. They would have been arrested for child abuse.

--Talking about the special coming up on that team. Agreed, the 78 team was very special.

--Joe B was so good to me. He's a nice man.

--We are still riding from what coach Hall built. I like Coach Hall but Coach Rupp got the ball rolling at UK.

--Loved how Goose would throw the daggers. Yep!

--We went into a zone some during last game. More than once? I missed that.

--We missed so many 1-2 footers. Yep.

--We worked on it every practice. The 1-2 footers? I couldn't tell.

--We started shooting more 3's. Just need some more players that can make them.

--Team makeup determines whether or not we shoot more 3's. Well, that's on you coach.

--The game is going position-less. Heard that line before...oh yeah, you keep saying it.

--Game is more about skill than athleticism and length now (Did he really say that??). WTH? Seriously Coach? [laughing]

--To the fans...we play not to just get in the tourney but to win it. As a long time fan, I didn't see it this season coach.

--Not happy we were an 8 seed in SECT. Neither were we...well, MOST of us. Some on here didn't see the problem.

--I never made it personal. B###S###.

--Have to hold them accountable. Kind of late for that now.

--One game it looked like they finally got it but then next game they would revert. The fans kind of noticed that as well.

--Next year from first day of practice I'm putting 3 minutes on the clock and we;re going at it. LETS GOOOOOO!

--Physical toughness leads to mental toughness. Words of wisdom.

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Sparkaces

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Seems unlikely now, but maybe Sarr comes back and they get that chance next season?? You're right, Sarr wasn't a back to the basket guy AT ALL. He really needs to get stronger. If I were advising him, I'd suggest he take full advantage of UK's strength and conditioning program this summer and come back with a vengeance. He has the skill but just lacked the strength. He could be great next season.
Sarr missed a gimme put back slam to beat Kansas among numerous other blown dunks, just couldn’t believe how soft he was and the apparently was pretty dominant against ACC centers, crazy!
 
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TankedCat

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I'm cynical and frustrated.

Cal is a bullshi**er and even the most supportive fans know this with him. And I guarantee you he is still butthurt over the fans not having a parade for him trying so hard this year during covid.

Does Cal have a plan to really keep guys 3 - 4 years? How he is going to do it? By telling us that Sarr and Cam are gone?

I think Cal can say the right things. At the moment, I'm from Missouri. He's gonna have to show me, and I don't see anything changing.

Also, 2013 sucked, but its not anywhere near the suck this year was. 2013 was a combination of factors that included coming off a national championship losing veteran players, and having a star player hurt.

This year was essentially failure by design, not circumstance. You can't be talking about covid 3 months into the season or guy in a walking boot when you have players you won't play.
 
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revcort

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I'm cynical and frustrated.

Cal is a bullshi**er and even the most supportive fans know this with him. And I guarantee you he is still butthurt over the fans not having a parade for him trying so hard this year during covid.

Does Cal have a plan to really keep guys 3 - 4 years? How he is going to do it? By telling us that Sarr and Cam are gone?

I think Cal can say the right things. At the moment, I'm from Missouri. He's gonna have to show me, and I don't see see anything changing.
You may be right, but you're also frustrated and angry, which means you likely wouldn't believe him if he were hooked up to a lie detector. What he's saying right now is what I was thinking he was going to do. He might be motivated by pride and hating people's criticism. He may just be motivated by his competitive nature and hating to lose. He may be motivated because he feels like he failed the guys on the team this season. Whatever his motivation, I expect him to make whatever changes are needed for this kind of thing to never happen again. And he's saying the right things here, which is good.
 

tls

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Boston had rep as a scorer, not a shooter. His shooting efficiency was abysmal in the EYBL

Mintz was never more than a mid-30% shooter his entire career at Creighton.

Throw in the fact that Cal does not practice generating 3 pointers, and we were doomed from the beginning to be a bad perimeter shooting team.
But Mintz was reputedly the best 3-point shooter on the team and easily won the contest at BBM.
 

germuk

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Yeah, Sarr could hit a 3 better than he could hit a layup. That is what killed us inside. Jackson came on late but he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn early. Boston’s poor shooting is well chronicled. You're right. The 3pt shooting isn't what killed this team. It was missing shots 5 feet and in.
The biggest issue to me was the distribution and the shooting percentage of long twos for this team. Hoops Insight on Twitter had some great breakdowns of this. We shot basically the same percentage on long twos as we did threes for shots that were worth less. However, the clutch numbers for mid range were absolutely horrific. Like, as bad as you think it might be, it's probably worse. I think it was something close to 1/20 on mid range shots in clutch moments all year. I guess that factors into the low Kenpom luck rating, but we have to scrap taking so many mid range shots moving forward and turn more of those shots into threes.
 

TankedCat

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You may be right, but you're also frustrated and angry, which means you likely wouldn't believe him if he were hooked up to a lie detector. What he's saying right now is what I was thinking he was going to do. He might be motivated by pride and hating people's criticism. He may just be motivated by his competitive nature and hating to lose. He may be motivated because he feels like he failed the guys on the team this season. Whatever his motivation, I expect him to make whatever changes are needed for this kind of thing to never happen again. And he's saying the right things here, which is good.
It took a 9-16 season for him to admit the game has changed, he needs 3-4 year guys and shoot the 3 pointer
How many years have the uneducated basketball bennies been saying this?
And yes, I probably wouldn't believe him, the flipside is if he came up on his show and said, this year was an outlier, I've been doing this a long time, trust me, trust the process and next year we'll be back in the hunt, you would be on here telling us how he said the right things as coach.
 

kyjeff1

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Our strength was not throwing it to the post, he's drunk. Our strength sat on the bench most of the season.
I thought the same thing. Did he actually watch the games? We stunk in the post. We lost a lot of games while Cal force fed the post to guys that had no idea what to do when they got the ball.
 

fatguy87

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Sarr should've been used in a manner more akin to Derek Willis than Julius Randle.
 

revcort

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It took a 9-16 season for him to admit the game has changed, he needs 3-4 year guys and shoot the 3 pointer
How many years have the uneducated basketball bennies been saying this?
And yes, I probably wouldn't believe him, the flipside is if he came up on his show and said, this year was an outlier, I've been doing this a long time, trust me, trust the process and next year we'll be back in the hunt, you would be on here telling us how he said the right things as coach.
No, read my posts from earlier today, before this radio show. Anyone with eyes can see changes are in order. What he is saying are both the right things to say and the right things to actually do. I hope he follows through on these words.
 
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Cawood86_rivals

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Seems unlikely now, but maybe Sarr comes back and they get that chance next season?? You're right, Sarr wasn't a back to the basket guy AT ALL. He really needs to get stronger. If I were advising him, I'd suggest he take full advantage of UK's strength and conditioning program this summer and come back with a vengeance. He has the skill but just lacked the strength. He could be great next season.
Oscar has Sarr's spot. Don't see Sarr returning. Sarr likely makes millions overseas.
 

Woodrow24

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No, read my posts from earlier today, before this radio show. Anyone with eyes can see changes are in order. What he is saying are both the right things to say and the right things to actually do. I hope he follows through on these words.
I really think he’s going to change. I’ll give him the 9-16 record as a mulligan and not say a word if he will start being more traditional with how he builds rosters. That’s been my complaint with Cal.
 

ArtLaibsGhost_rivals

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Nothing Cal says is going to be good enough or the right answer for some of the clowns on here.
Most fans here want to win and win big, they don’t ever want to lose games at home to the likes of Richmond , or Evansville, they hate losing 4 out of 5 to Kansas, 3-5 to UCLA, being humiliated on National TV by Duke, having the worst record in 90 years. Not making a 68 team NCAATourney twice in 8 years. These issues are real wether you choose to acknowledge them or not. Cal starts winning some big games agian, not losing to tomato cans at home , and beating less talented teams in tournament and most of the vitriol he has been getting will go away. Basically he has to WIN and win big, something he hasn’t done here in a while.
 

notFromhere

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He doesn't want a bunch of "****-talking" on message boards for 6 months.

Of course he's gonna say what people want to hear. He has to recruit and vaca during this time. He doesn't want a fire in the living room while he's trying to cook.

If he has another dismal season he'll be ****-talking the fans again.
 
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What I find hilarious is a lot of people said he won’t say anything about changing and he will say the same old same old. Now the narrative has changed and talk is cheap. 😂
No ****. He is saying all the right things which he hasn't said a lot of these things before. It sounds like he knows it is time for a change and he knows this year was BS and some on here complain about him saying exactly what they said he should be saying LMFAO. I bet some of these posters trip going down the street and yell out dammit Cal!

If he does do the changes and is successful the same posters will say it's about time. Think of all the titles we could have had in the time he wasted being stubborn.

I like what I am hearing and I just hope he follows through. If so he can turn this around and get us back to the top where we belong.
 
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CB3UK

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Seeing is believing. He generally acknowledged the problems we've all harangued all season about. We'll see where we're at this time next year. Tonight's show certainly made me feel better.
 
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Seeing is believing. He generally acknowledged the problems we've all harangued all season about. We'll see where we're at this time next year. Tonight's show certainly made me feel better.
Yeah talk is cheap. If he does what he said then we have something. I’ll keep an open mind.
 
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KyFaninNC

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You may be right, but you're also frustrated and angry, which means you likely wouldn't believe him if he were hooked up to a lie detector. What he's saying right now is what I was thinking he was going to do. He might be motivated by pride and hating people's criticism. He may just be motivated by his competitive nature and hating to lose. He may be motivated because he feels like he failed the guys on the team this season. Whatever his motivation, I expect him to make whatever changes are needed for this kind of thing to never happen again. And he's saying the right things here, which is good.
Fool me once, shame on you Fool me twice, shame on me. I dont believe him, altho I hope he is sincere. He has said so much, that he never did, I have no faith in him. I am willing to be proven wrong.
 
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revcort

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Fool me once, shame on you Fool me twice, shame on me. I dont believe him, altho I hope he is sincere. He has said so much, that he never did, I have no faith in him. I am willing to be proven wrong.
Really, I don't think anyone could expect anything more than this KyFaninNC. We've all heard the "coach speak" before. I think he's being sincere here mainly because he has no other choice. It's not like we got bumped from the tourney in an Elite 8 game again. He can deflect that all day. You can't deflect a 9-16 season. You can't ignore "worst season in nearly 100 years." Now, I've made some excuses for some of the results of this season, but you can't excuse the final result. Even if the early losses can be laid squarely on the pandemic, it still doesn't excuse what we saw in league play. Even if injuries contributed to the poor season, it still doesn't excuse 9-16. There is no excuse for this kind of record at UK. I might excuse a .500 record given the circumstances, but not this.

I say all of that to say, I think he's completely serious. This is a huge wake-up call. The game is changing. The top recruits will start going to the NBA. The guys remaining will more likely be multi-year players. Skill is overtaking athleticism. This is all true. He sees the game passing him by and he knows it's time to adjust. If he really wants to stay in this job, he has to change. I really don't think he has any choice. He could keep doing the exact same thing, stay and die on the vine, but that's not his style. He wants to go out on top. So, I believe him. And if he's just saying what he thinks we want to hear, he will be gone in the next couple years.
 

KyFaninNC

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Really, I don't think anyone could expect anything more than this KyFaninNC. We've all heard the "coach speak" before. I think he's being sincere here mainly because he has no other choice. It's not like we got bumped from the tourney in an Elite 8 game again. He can deflect that all day. You can't deflect a 9-16 season. You can't ignore "worst season in nearly 100 years." Now, I've made some excuses for some of the results of this season, but you can't excuse the final result. Even if the early losses can be laid squarely on the pandemic, it still doesn't excuse what we saw in league play. Even if injuries contributed to the poor season, it still doesn't excuse 9-16. There is no excuse for this kind of record at UK. I might excuse a .500 record given the circumstances, but not this.

I say all of that to say, I think he's completely serious. This is a huge wake-up call. The game is changing. The top recruits will start going to the NBA. The guys remaining will more likely be multi-year players. Skill is overtaking athleticism. This is all true. He sees the game passing him by and he knows it's time to adjust. If he really wants to stay in this job, he has to change. I really don't think he has any choice. He could keep doing the exact same thing, stay and die on the vine, but that's not his style. He wants to go out on top. So, I believe him. And if he's just saying what he thinks we want to hear, he will be gone in the next couple years.
I truly hope you are right for the good of the program. It’s no secret that Cal lost me with that act at Florida. My love for UK basketball far out weighs my disdain for Calipari. If he can change and for all the right reasons. I can over look his politics. First thing he needs to change is to do away with pro day, second stop with the “players first” crap, retain players that need to stay.
 

TankedCat

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I'm fine with Pro-day if its not done at the start of the season. Its detrimental to the program to start these guys out thinking they are done at the end of the season with Kentucky. Its not about forcing them to stay, but giving them a frame of mind they are truly OAD makes them focus on being a pro, not a team player.

I'm sure it was a great recruiting tool, but I think its also part of the reason Cal has created this monster he can't control with players leaving.
 

kyjeff1

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Really, I don't think anyone could expect anything more than this KyFaninNC. We've all heard the "coach speak" before. I think he's being sincere here mainly because he has no other choice. It's not like we got bumped from the tourney in an Elite 8 game again. He can deflect that all day. You can't deflect a 9-16 season. You can't ignore "worst season in nearly 100 years." Now, I've made some excuses for some of the results of this season, but you can't excuse the final result. Even if the early losses can be laid squarely on the pandemic, it still doesn't excuse what we saw in league play. Even if injuries contributed to the poor season, it still doesn't excuse 9-16. There is no excuse for this kind of record at UK. I might excuse a .500 record given the circumstances, but not this.

I say all of that to say, I think he's completely serious. This is a huge wake-up call. The game is changing. The top recruits will start going to the NBA. The guys remaining will more likely be multi-year players. Skill is overtaking athleticism. This is all true. He sees the game passing him by and he knows it's time to adjust. If he really wants to stay in this job, he has to change. I really don't think he has any choice. He could keep doing the exact same thing, stay and die on the vine, but that's not his style. He wants to go out on top. So, I believe him. And if he's just saying what he thinks we want to hear, he will be gone in the next couple years.
The things he said are very encouraging, but I'll be very interested to see how he gets kids to stay 3-4 years. He will either have to completely change his priorities, mindset and recruiting pitches (the culture) or just recruit a bunch of lower rated guys, like Askew, Ware, Hickman and Hopkins.

Probably both.

Every kid out there looks at UK as the one and done school. It is going to take years to scrub that reputation off.
 

irishcat1965

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Apr 22, 2012
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The things he said are very encouraging, but I'll be very interested to see how he gets kids to stay 3-4 years. He will either have to completely change his priorities, mindset and recruiting pitches (the culture) or just recruit a bunch of lower rated guys, like Askew, Ware, Hickman and Hopkins.

Probably both.

Every kid out there looks at UK as the one and done school. It is going to take years to scrub that reputation off.
I didn’t listen to it. But there were snippets on the internet. Apparently he mentioned steering clear mostly of top 10-15 recruits and focusing on the lower tier. Here is the issue and not just for Cal- if a top ten recruits want to come, you just going to say no? As a coach, I would have trouble telling them no thanks.
 

BassProCat

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Jan 5, 2017
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I like what I'm hearing- also needing skill over athleticism is right on the money. Cal has always valued athletes over skilled players but the game is changing.

This and getting a core of players to stay 3-4 years is the key. He can do that then UK will go back to the top of the winning chain.
 
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kyjeff1

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I didn’t listen to it. But there were snippets on the internet. Apparently he mentioned steering clear mostly of top 10-15 recruits and focusing on the lower tier. Here is the issue and not just for Cal- if a top ten recruits want to come, you just going to say no? As a coach, I would have trouble telling them no thanks.
I agree, but here's what's good about that, bringing in a Terrence Clarke or a Kevin Knox type player will work, but only if you add them to a veteran group.

I like to use Gonzaga 2021 as an example. They added Suggs and Ballo to one hell of a roster and everyone looks great. He only has to do his job and not carry the load.

Timme, Kispert, Nembhard, Ayayi and Cook carry equal parts of it. I think Cal could do really well with that situation, as long as everyone on the roster understands what their roles are.

If Hardy wants to come to UK next year, Cal has to take him. Hell, no matter what the situation, you take Hardy, he's a high IQ kid that could be transcendent.
 
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