KJ Costello

[The Peeper]

Umm, aren't you all forgetting something? Who is going to run routes and catch 4,000 yds worth of passes? For at least the last 3 or 4 seasons I've cringed and hidden my eyes every time we attempt a pass. I expect it to be dropped, tipped up and intercepted or caught for a gain of 8 when we needed 10.

 

[RockKickinSandPoundinSOB]

Umm, aren't you all forgetting something? Who is going to run routes and catch 4,000 yds worth of passes? For at least the last 3 or 4 seasons I've cringes and hidden my eyes every time we attempt a pass. I expect it to be dropped, tipped up and intercepted or caught for a gain of 8 when we needed 10.

Leach is used to bums and walkons. He’ll be fine with this crew.

 

[msstate7]

You could have given Moorhead flippin Patrick Mahommes and he couldn't of schemed up 4k passing.

Nah, Moorhead can do fine with elite talent... just like everyone. He can't do much of anything without a distinct talent advantage though

 

[Seinfeld]

I’m not sure that even labeling TS a career backup does justice to the difference in these two.

Stephens first 3 seasons
24/41 passing
304 yds
4 TDs/ 1 Int

Costello first 3 seasons
495/791 passing
6151 yds
49 TDs/ 18 Int

I’m not going to make a bet on what any kid is gonna do or not do in the toughest division in all of college football, but these guys really aren’t even in the same stratosphere as far as transfers go

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

Losing Guidry alone will cure this team of the dropsies.

Austin Williams will thrive in this offense IMO.

 

[dog12]

Seems pretty ignorant to be negative about this and compare it to the TS situation just because they would both be products of the transfer portal. When are our fans going to realize nobody had the chance to be successful at our program while Joe Moorhead was the head coach. Yeah we brought in guys like TS and Zuber that didn’t necessarily work out, but that doesn’t mean everyone in the transfer portal is going to be a bust.

Why do you say that nobody had the chance to be successful? Who is "nobody?" Our players? Our coaches?

Everybody associated with our football team (especially the players whom played the game on the field) had 13 chances to be successful last season.

We were successful 6 times.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

If this dude is coming in for an interview with the staff either this weekend or next, he will be too late to enroll for the spring. Any transfer QB most definitely needs to go through Spring practice. Why even fool with a transfer for 1 year if they cannot work in the Spring?

I would think he would be in “today” if truly interested.

 

[msstate7]

If this dude is coming in for an interview with the staff either this weekend or next, he will be too late to enroll for the spring. Any transfer QB most definitely needs to go through Spring practice. Why even fool with a transfer for 1 year if they cannot work in the Spring?

I would think he would be in “today” if truly interested.

I would think leach has thought about this. Minshew transferred to WSU in March. Guess leach shouldn't have fooled with him

 

[Drebin]

That place is filled with mouth breathing Neanderthals and old geriatric 17s that don’t have a clue looking for guidance from a former Junkie turned Sports novelist that likes to preach to others about how they should live their life. Sorry if I don’t take life advice from you Rosebowl. Also if you could bat above your 17ing weight on your predictions that would be great. $1 a month is too much.

You could have put a period after "clue" and been fine. But then you had to go on and out yourself.

 

[MSUDC11]

The ignorance of our fan base never ceases to amaze me.

 

[johnson86-1]

I would think leach has thought about this. Minshew transferred to WSU in March. Guess leach shouldn't have fooled with him

Yea, but Minshew was a special talent. What are the chances a QB that had to settle on Stanford could pick up Leach's offense in summer workouts?**

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

The ignorance of our fan base never ceases to amaze me.

Yep. Your lack of intellect shows in most of your posts.

 

[patdog]

Austin Williams will thrive in this offense IMO.

I think so too.

 

[MSUDC11]

Yep. Your lack of intellect shows in most of your posts.

I’m not sure you’re one who has much room to talk about others’ lack of intellect.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

I’m not sure you’re one who has much room to talk about others’ lack of intellect.

I am pretty sure I can evaluate yours as far inferior to mine. See. You follow a post by a fellow fan as that fan being ignorant, rather than just having an opinion that might not be the same as yours. You choose name calling rather than offering an opinion about the commenter’s opinion that may differ.

That is typical of a lot of posters on this board.

I was just simply pointing out that you lack the intellect to actually discuss the subject matter and choose name calling. Do you have anything to offer on the subject matter without name calling?

 

[FreeDawg]

Context is everything. I beat a guy in a race with no legs. Was I successful?

The point he was making, and it was a good one, was that the lack of production from guys that were brought in is on JoMo and his putrid system. So don’t temper future guys expectations through JoMo lenses.

 

[MSUDC11]

I am pretty sure I can evaluate yours as far inferior to mine. See. You follow a post by a fellow fan as that fan being ignorant, rather than just having an opinion that might not be the same as yours. You choose name calling rather than offering an opinion about the commenter’s opinion that may differ.

That is typical of a lot of posters on this board.

I was just simply pointing out that you lack the intellect to actually discuss the subject matter and choose name calling. Do you have anything to offer on the subject matter without name calling?

I’ve offered my two cents on the matter already. And I think the comparisons that have been made to Stevens are off base. The Costello and Stevens situations are incredibly different. There are plenty of facts that back that up. But hey, if someone would prefer to just roll with Shrader then that’s their opinion.

But then we get to you. Your comment of “he would be here today if he was truly interested” is one thousand percent based on your own biased speculation. We hired Leach on January 9th, and the last day to enroll in classes for the Spring was January 13th. Based on your comments, your expectation of the situation was we should’ve had our grad transfer QB signed sealed and delivered within 3 days of Leach being hired (even though we didn’t have any staff yet, mind you), and since we couldn’t meet that deadline there’s no point in pursuing this further.

I get wanting someone to be here for the Spring, and we all undoubtedly wish they could be, but that’s not realistic in this scenario. We hired Leach after the semester had already started, he had basically zero time to work with. But I don’t think being here in the Spring is a requirement for being a good QB here, and to assume him not being here yet is a sign that he doesn’t want to come here is really a stretch.

So yes, I consider what you said to be ignorant.

 

[Ralph Cramden]

Yea, but Minshew was a special talent. What are the chances a QB that had to settle on Stanford could pick up Leach's offense in summer workouts?**

Do you even know anything about Minshew ? He couldn't even get an offer from Stanford. He was at East Carolina and NW Miss Community College before Leach called him. Leach was the only major college coach that saw his potential.

 

[johnson86-1]

Do you even know anything about Minshew ? He couldn't even get an offer from Stanford. He was at East Carolina and NW Miss Community College before Leach called him. Leach was the only major college coach that saw his potential.

97 posts without picking up on sarcastericks? Congratulations**

 

[Ralph Cramden]

97 posts without picking up on sarcastericks? Congratulations**

Did not see them

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

I’ve offered my two cents on the matter already. And I think the comparisons that have been made to Stevens are off base. The Costello and Stevens situations are incredibly different. There are plenty of facts that back that up. But hey, if someone would prefer to just roll with Shrader then that’s their opinion.

But then we get to you. Your comment of “he would be here today if he was truly interested” is one thousand percent based on your own biased speculation. We hired Leach on January 9th, and the last day to enroll in classes for the Spring was January 13th. Based on your comments, your expectation of the situation was we should’ve had our grad transfer QB signed sealed and delivered within 3 days of Leach being hired (even though we didn’t have any staff yet, mind you), and since we couldn’t meet that deadline there’s no point in pursuing this further.

I get wanting someone to be here for the Spring, and we all undoubtedly wish they could be, but that’s not realistic in this scenario. We hired Leach after the semester had already started, he had basically zero time to work with. But I don’t think being here in the Spring is a requirement for being a good QB here, and to assume him not being here yet is a sign that he doesn’t want to come here is really a stretch.

So yes, I consider what you said to be ignorant.

Well, other than still name calling, you at least made some valid points.

But there are questions.

First, I didn’t say he should be enrolled today, I referred to him being here for a two sided interview., today. Why wait until the 24th or even the 31st?

So, the questions:

1) when did Costello announce his intentions to transfer and enter the portal? How long has he been searching for a landing spot?

2) what is he seeking a Graduate Degree in and which schools have that program If Stanford doesn’t have it?

3) is he strictly transferring to play QB for a particularly Coach or Offensive philosophy?

4) was he considering Washington State when Leach was the coach there?

5) was MSU a possible destination before Moorhead was fired?

6) Is there a school where he can be a late enrollee in a graduate program?

7) wouldn’t Leach want to be able to evaluate his current roster of QBs with the transferee so that he can get a full spring of work, system input, and evaluation, rather than coming out of Spring with QB1 possibly NOT even on campus? This is not like a true freshman coming in June and going thru fall practice and beating guys out. This is a one year guy coming in with a short window to develop relationships, timing, trust, Understanding the nuances of this version of the Offense, among other things, including tangible general acceptance.

We have 3 QBs that were rated 4 star by at least one recruiting publication, that were passed over for a transfer last year, and the perception was there was instability in the clubhouse.

If another transfer QB is demonstrably better than what we have, let him prove it in the Spring, not the week before the 1st game.

Tell this guy and any other possible transfer showing interest in MSU to prove their interest and get here this week and talk, walk and look.

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

Wow. Palo Alto California vs starkville. Talk about a damn culture shock. If he considers us its for one reason - Not to play in the SEC but to Play a year under Leach.

Maybe he wants to go to a place that does not have homeless villages and human feces on the streets?

 

[Drebin]

97 posts without picking up on sarcastericks? Congratulations**

Meh, it's Rupert. He knows all about it.

 

[mstateglfr]

Maybe he wants to go to a place that does not have homeless villages and human feces on the streets?

Palo alto isnt sf or other towns around the bay. Its 30mi from sf.
There were 10 homeless in town as of last spring and the police have known them for years.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/padailypost.com/2019/03/15/homeless-digging-in-literally/amp/
There are apparently some in a camp in a marsh too, who work.

If palo alto has an in town homeless population that is camping on sidewalks and shutting everywhere, I'm not aware.
Agree that such a scenario would be frustrating to live in- on both sides of the situation.

 

[mstateglfr]

It’s not like he’s is coming from a different country good grief. If he is truly here to play football he shouldn’t care about how great the night life is.

You underestimate the culture shock that many experience when coming to MSU.
A grad student who has maturity and years of experience with travel will probably handle it better than 18yo freshmen though.

 

[mstateglfr]

Well, other than still name calling, you at least made some valid points.

But there are questions.

First, I didn’t say he should be enrolled today, I referred to him being here for a two sided interview., today. Why wait until the 24th or even the 31st?

So, the questions:

1) when did Costello announce his intentions to transfer and enter the portal? How long has he been searching for a landing spot?

2) what is he seeking a Graduate Degree in and which schools have that program If Stanford doesn’t have it?

3) is he strictly transferring to play QB for a particularly Coach or Offensive philosophy?

4) was he considering Washington State when Leach was the coach there?

5) was MSU a possible destination before Moorhead was fired?

6) Is there a school where he can be a late enrollee in a graduate program?

7) wouldn’t Leach want to be able to evaluate his current roster of QBs with the transferee so that he can get a full spring of work, system input, and evaluation, rather than coming out of Spring with QB1 possibly NOT even on campus? This is not like a true freshman coming in June and going thru fall practice and beating guys out. This is a one year guy coming in with a short window to develop relationships, timing, trust, Understanding the nuances of this version of the Offense, among other things, including tangible general acceptance.

We have 3 QBs that were rated 4 star by at least one recruiting publication, that were passed over for a transfer last year, and the perception was there was instability in the clubhouse.

If another transfer QB is demonstrably better than what we have, let him prove it in the Spring, not the week before the 1st game.

Tell this guy and any other possible transfer showing interest in MSU to prove their interest and get here this week and talk, walk and look.

Of course there are questions. Many of the questions that you just asked though are completely beside the point.
Who cares what he is going to pursue as a master's degree. And who cares if he was considering MSU before Leach. None of that matters.

 

[MSUDC11]

Well, other than still name calling, you at least made some valid points.

But there are questions.

First, I didn’t say he should be enrolled today, I referred to him being here for a two sided interview., today. Why wait until the 24th or even the 31st?

So, the questions:

1) when did Costello announce his intentions to transfer and enter the portal? How long has he been searching for a landing spot?

2) what is he seeking a Graduate Degree in and which schools have that program If Stanford doesn’t have it?

3) is he strictly transferring to play QB for a particularly Coach or Offensive philosophy?

4) was he considering Washington State when Leach was the coach there?

5) was MSU a possible destination before Moorhead was fired?

6) Is there a school where he can be a late enrollee in a graduate program?

7) wouldn’t Leach want to be able to evaluate his current roster of QBs with the transferee so that he can get a full spring of work, system input, and evaluation, rather than coming out of Spring with QB1 possibly NOT even on campus? This is not like a true freshman coming in June and going thru fall practice and beating guys out. This is a one year guy coming in with a short window to develop relationships, timing, trust, Understanding the nuances of this version of the Offense, among other things, including tangible general acceptance.

We have 3 QBs that were rated 4 star by at least one recruiting publication, that were passed over for a transfer last year, and the perception was there was instability in the clubhouse.

If another transfer QB is demonstrably better than what we have, let him prove it in the Spring, not the week before the 1st game.

Tell this guy and any other possible transfer showing interest in MSU to prove their interest and get here this week and talk, walk and look.

I just don’t think things really operate this way, not nowadays at least. And it’s not like we are the only team interested. Also, he wouldn’t be showing up “a week before the first game,” he’d be with the team for three months before the first game.

I don’t view QB as a position of strength for us. I certainly see young talent and potential there, but nothing that tells me for sure any of these guys could run Leach’s system in Year 1. But I do feel like we’ve seen enough from Costello to say that he could jump in right away and be a strong addition for us. If he makes you better right now, which Leach seemingly thinks he does, you take him and figure out 2021 at a later date.

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

Palo alto isnt sf or other towns around the bay. Its 30mi from sf.
There were 10 homeless in town as of last spring and the police have known them for years.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/padailypost.com/2019/03/15/homeless-digging-in-literally/amp/
There are apparently some in a camp in a marsh too, who work.

If palo alto has an in town homeless population that is camping on sidewalks and shutting everywhere, I'm not aware.
Agree that such a scenario would be frustrating to live in- on both sides of the situation.

I forgot these ****. I know the difference in Trans Fransicko and Palo Alto, dick face. Do you have to be an ******* ALL the time?

 

[Ralph Cramden]

Meh, it's Rupert. He knows all about it.

I thought I was goat ? Lol.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

I know I shouldn’t

Agree that such a scenario would be frustrating to live in- on both sides of the situation.

But please explain why both sides would find it frustrating? I understand why the homeless would be frustrated with the hard working individuals always being mad at the homeless for sleeping in their yard and dropping used needles and excrement in their driveway, but why would the property owners be frustrated?

 

[11thEagleFan]

Come on, man. I live in a city with a sizable homeless population and let me tell you, an uncomfortably large number of them are armed forces veterans. I imagine they’re frustrated. If I were running for President, one of my platform points would be “there will be no such thing as a homeless veteran.”

 

[Bcash2]

But please explain why both sides would find it frustrating? I understand why the homeless would be frustrated with the hard working individuals always being mad at the homeless for sleeping in their yard and dropping used needles and excrement in their driveway, but why would the property owners be frustrated?

You can't understand why being homeless in one of the wealthiest and most expensive areas in the world would be frustrating? And to piggy-back off of 11thEagleFan, I too live in a place with a large homeless population and the amount of blatant mental illness is staggering. It's not like these people living on the streets are all just snowflake, college dropout pussies holding up Impeach Trump signs that are homeless cause they're lazy.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

I’m not going to pass judgment on any homeless veteran. They’ve been through more and seen more mind numbing situations than I hope I could ever understand. I don’t think any of them come back whole. Solving that problem is beyond me. We are all in debt to them.
My hyperbole was aimed at the worthless individuals who have made repeated dumb decision after dumb decision in order to remain homeless and keep blaming others for their predicament. We are in the United States of America, you only have to be homeless if you choose to be.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

I just don’t think things really operate this way, not nowadays at least. And it’s not like we are the only team interested. Also, he wouldn’t be showing up “a week before the first game,” he’d be with the team for three months before the first game.

I don’t view QB as a position of strength for us. I certainly see young talent and potential there, but nothing that tells me for sure any of these guys could run Leach’s system in Year 1.

Okay. I can definitely see your point. He would arrive in June if he is offered by Leach, and have 3 months to acclimate.

I also agree with what you said, that it would be better if he or any other QB transfer were able to be here for the summer, but the decision to bring him for a visit one of the next two weekends pretty much assured that is not going to happen.

And third, I agree that based on his stats, he would be the most experienced QB in the group with full year P5 stats to back it up.

I just don’t want the transfer portal to become our go to recruiting platform for QB. It worked for Ohio State, but the next guy up transferred out because their transfer QB got a waiver to start immediately and will be back next year.

Oklahoma got a 1 year guy, and the stud recruit transferred.

LSU got a Grad transfer with 2 years eligibility and their a backup wasn’t really good enough to transfer out.

Arkansas’s transfer in QB’s both sucked.

Our transfer in QB stayed hurt so we never really got a consistent look at what he could do.

UK’s transfer QB was not that good AND got injured.

If we can get a stud QB, perceived or actual, I agree. Take him. Just don’t expect guys that were 4 stars to sit around year after year waiting for their chance. We used to make fun of Sole Miss because they couldn’t develop a High school QB and brought in transfers.

 

[Bcash2]

I’m not going to pass judgment on any homeless veteran. They’ve been through more and seen more mind numbing situations than I hope I could ever understand. I don’t think any of them come back whole. Solving that problem is beyond me. We are all in debt to them.
My hyperbole was aimed at the worthless individuals who have made repeated dumb decision after dumb decision in order to remain homeless and keep blaming others for their predicament. We are in the United States of America, you only have to be homeless if you choose to be.

Sorry, this is just wrong. It ain't that simple. It's just not. I'll leave it alone now. Cheers.

 

[MSUDC11]

We’re in a unique situation currently where half of our QBs aren’t even Moorhead guys. They’re Mullen holdovers. The fact of the matter is we’ve now had three different head coaches in the last two and a half years, and not a whole lot of system continuity between any of those coaches. I think some roster influx is inherent because of that, particularly at QB.

Now, I don’t expect us to go get a transfer QB every year. Once Leach settles in I expect he’ll groom one of the younger guys to be the long term solution. That’s seemingly what Moorhead was doing with Shrader, we wouldn’t be looking for a new QB if Joe was still here. But honestly Leach has seen more of Costello in person than any of our current QBs. He knows what this guy can do and thinks he can run his system.

If all goes well, Costello ends up being good and you can redshirt Shrader and Rogers and still have 3-4 years respectively with those two guys.

 

[mstateglfr]

I forgot these ****. I know the difference in Trans Fransicko and Palo Alto, dick face. Do you have to be an ******* ALL the time?

Without expressing sarcasm or joke, you claimed that palo alto is full of homeless villages and people shitting on streets.
I provided an article that shows your claim doesnt seem accurate, and pointed out that palo alto isnt the town(s) in that metro known for what you claim.

Instead of sacking up and accepting your sad attempt at humor was inaccurate and therefore stupid, you call me a dick face and *******.

Calling me those things is ironic, coming from someone who called San Francisco 'Trans Fransicko'.
Seriously, I dont think the 13 year old boys in my daughter's class would even use such a stupid nickname.

 

[mstateglfr]

But please explain why both sides would find it frustrating? I understand why the homeless would be frustrated with the hard working individuals always being mad at the homeless for sleeping in their yard and dropping used needles and excrement in their driveway, but why would the property owners be frustrated?

Your sarcasm aside, I cant imagine it is fun for many homeless to live in a situation where they are seen as a problem, where they are loathed, and where they are continually told they are in the way.

That isnt me saying homeless should be allowed to live in tents on sidewalks and we should all accept the situation as that. It's simply me being able to imagine that many homeless arent exactly happy to be viewed as a problem that must be dealt with.

Not all are shitting on streets and leaving used needles on sidewalks.

And of course I can sympathize with residents and business owners who are frustrated with the situation.

 

[bruiser.sixpack]

We’re in a unique situation currently where half of our QBs aren’t even Moorhead guys. They’re Mullen holdovers. The fact of the matter is we’ve now had three different head coaches in the last two and a half years, and not a whole lot of system continuity between any of those coaches. I think some roster influx is inherent because of that, particularly at QB.

Now, I don’t expect us to go get a transfer QB every year. Once Leach settles in I expect he’ll groom one of the younger guys to be the long term solution. That’s seemingly what Moorhead was doing with Shrader, we wouldn’t be looking for a new QB if Joe was still here. But honestly Leach has seen more of Costello in person than any of our current QBs. He knows what this guy can do and thinks he can run his system.

If all goes well, Costello ends up being good and you can redshirt Shrader and Rogers and still have 3-4 years respectively with those two guys.

If we get Costello, being able to redshirt Rogers and use Schrader in key situations only would definitely be ideal. I believe we can keep Rogers even if we get a transfer. I don’t know if Schrader will be willing to be a backup after being the starter. Either way, it is exciting that Leach has made State visible to the level of Grad transfers as the 3 that have us on the list.

I love a MSU Baseball, and I cannot wait until the team climbs on a plane for Omaha for two reasons. Back to the CWS is one and only 2 months away from 2020 football season!

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

Without expressing sarcasm or joke, you claimed that palo alto is full of homeless villages and people shitting on streets.
I provided an article that shows your claim doesnt seem accurate, and pointed out that palo alto isnt the town(s) in that metro known for what you claim.

Instead of sacking up and accepting your sad attempt at humor was inaccurate and therefore stupid, you call me a dick face and *******.

Calling me those things is ironic, coming from someone who called San Francisco 'Trans Fransicko'.
Seriously, I dont think the 13 year old boys in my daughter's class would even use such a stupid nickname.

You never answered my question. Do you have to be an ******* ALL the time?