F!’k the shots. They’re poison to the body.
Kingsley is draft eligible
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Yeah this sums it up in a nutshell....but there is no scenario he should not be an active player on the roster for the entire 2022 -23 season.
The only issue is if Kingsley comes here and costs up Bradshaw (or another talented big man) for the 2023 class and bolts to NBA while playing very little for next years' team....but you take the risk. We have 3 open schollies...he takes 1 of them...so it's fine.
I’m a hater (regarding the sharpe situation) and I don’t have anything negative to say about this at all. Anyone with common sense knew sharpe was never playing, that same common sense can be applied to see this situation isn’t remotely close.
Walker Kessler at Auburn has a way more polished offensive game with similar blocking skills and he went 22 in the draft so I doubt Kingsley will even be ranked in the first or second round of next years draft...
He will undoubtedly become very close to Oscar and has the PSA connections to Hami. Both are players that I imagine would speak very favorably of eventually playing at Kentucky even if sitting out some. Also he might play some as it is this year anyways.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. But, it IS similar to Sharpe in one way, IMO. There has been a lot of talk about Kingsley practicing only this year & not playing, or, playing very little, in preparation for the following season. Also, most everything I’ve seen has said he wasn’t draft eligible, anyway, until today, after he commits. But, at least that info wasn’t hidden til halfway into the season this time.
He’s not a projected lottery pick, or, ranked in the top 10 of his class. But, he’s still a top 20-25 guy, &, is an elite shot blocker/defensive player with great measurables. He might not be a lottery pick, but, some team will take a chance on him if he declares, &, develop him themselves. As long as he plays this season I have no problem, whatsoever, with him declaring, if he does so. But, you can’t really blame ppl for being a little gun shy, now, thanks to the Sharpe deal & so many ppl saying Kingsley wouldn’t play this season.
NO he won't . Ware has 2 years experience playing in the SEC !
No reason to redshirt a kid at a program that never has a kid stay 4 years.
Aaron Torres addressed this today. Said at this stage he is nowhere near getting drafted, and that if he is after one season behind OT, that means he, and UK, had a very, very good year.
We didn’t think the Shaedon Sharpe situation was a Shaedon Sharpe situation until it became a Shaedon Sharpe situation .
With that said I do agree I don’t think this is a Shaedon Sharpe situation
Cal officially said Ugonna won’t be with the team for the Bahamas and will be on campus August 20th.
Yep, forgot about being 19 by the end of the calendar year of the draft. Thanks.
yep
we have 3 or 4 on here that really hate any and all good UK news and have to try to diminish it
Cal is stubborn enough to let him sit out like Sharpe. If anything just to let us fans know who is the boss. I hope that won't be the case, but I can definitely see a world where he would allow it again.
I get it but would have been surprised if he played much either way with Oscar in middle.
It isn't like Oscar was going to go down to 25mpg. The most I'd see UKO playing would be 8-10mpg tops. We also have no clue how raw he is.
I get your point though.
Not seen anyone say he’s redshirting. I’m sure it’s been thrown out as a possibility out there in the Twitter verse or on here. All accounts that I’ve seen from anyone legit have stated the plan is for him to backup OT/Ware and learn what he can in mop up time then see how he progresses thru the season.
HST—I agree to even consider a RS for him would be absurd. Not even from a Sharpe perspective, as others have pointed out this is apples and oranges. Just strictly from the fact there is zero chance the kid is here for 4 years. Let him get what playing time he can earn and improve for the following season where he could be a stud.
But, WTH do I know. Not gonna fret it either way.
HST—I agree to even consider a RS for him would be absurd. Not even from a Sharpe perspective, as others have pointed out this is apples and oranges. Just strictly from the fact there is zero chance the kid is here for 4 years. Let him get what playing time he can earn and improve for the following season where he could be a stud.
But, WTH do I know. Not gonna fret it either way.
Of course Cal should bring in a kid who MAY move on after a year -- just like when top talent is drafted in the first round.
What are you freakin' blabbing about? Do you even know how many years Cal has left ships in his pocket? What's the difference between Sharpe and holding on to an unused ship? What's the difference signing Ugonna and pocketing a ship?
One difference is that guys like Sharpe and Ugonna provide excellent practice bodies.
I am not just aiming this at y'all. It's for anyone else who doesn't understand this ****.
I'm past the point of getting terrible excited about recruits .. I want wins .. I know they are somewhat related but at UK we always have the highly rated recruits , question still abounds , can we win ?
If Oscar had much better hops or if he was taller, he would have been gone regardless of his shooting. There are plenty of NBA players who are in the league because of their defense and rebounding.
He's not going to red shirt. And he's going to play some as he is brought along slowly. What I see as a real plum in the pudding is how the threesome of Ugonna, Antigua, and Oscar are going to work to make Oscar better. And Ugonna better. To me it's a win-win
Totally agree. I don’t expect to see much of him. But, I want him to play those 8-10 min, or, whatever. It won’t bother me, at all, if he gets limited minutes & declares. I just don’t want him to sit all season, reap all the benefits & leave without ever seeing the court. It’s a shame we even have to consider the possibility.
Agreed. My "here we go again" comment was mainly in part with the anti-Cal rethoric that will follow, and all of the talk that follows that will presumably be flooding this board. In my opinion, Kingsley and Sharpe's situation, both on and off the court, are apples and oranges.
I’m trying to be respectful but could you at least declare pronouns when you respond to me so I know how to address you? It makes our fans look uneducated and intolerant. Let’s be classy.
Obviously UK fans hope he plays here but Diallo and Sharpe give ample reasons to be concerned. Maybe this kid is different but we are 0-2 in similar situations. Sharpe didn't play and Diallo would not have played if he had been a top 20 pick.
We will see what this one does but until he actually steps on the court in a game doubt is reasonable.
We will see what this one does but until he actually steps on the court in a game doubt is reasonable.
Saying 0-2 because Diallo wasn't a top 20 pick is being annoying selective. He stayed, it worked out.
If Kingsley for some reason doesn't play this year, guess what, he's going to enter the draft for feedback and definitely not be a first round pick.
Dudes who haven't seen the kid play a second of basketball speculating about him going pro. He's 1000 miles away from being on the NBA's radar.
He and Oscar “could” play some minutes together. Oscar could get some minutes at the 4. Will this happen? No idea, but it is possible. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think this scenario would happen very often, but every now and then is possible.
That’s true but what nobody considers is that he may use this year to collect NIL and then take any draft position offered to him or go pro asap to get to working on his future career even in the G league. Never know about kids these days.