Once the ACC gets ransacked, it will be a joke, but that's not the case yet.
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Khaman Maluach
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It would have, if not for NIL. Now.. I'd actually say Duke is in about as good of a spot as any, simply because they are a national brand whose alumni earn a ton of money, money that goes back into the program. If Duke is smart, they lean into this and basically out bid everyone for players.
Not all that different than Notre Dame. NIL has changed the landscape when it comes to the haves and the have nots. Basketball legacy doesn't matter, it's all about which programs can shell out the most NIL.
I don't WANT to be Duke, but I would 100% swap our situations.
I like these pretentious a-hole Duke fans who show up in these threads. None of these smug geeks were born Duke fans. At some point, each and every one of them chose to cheer for the snootiest tradition in college basketball.
Says a lot about someone when you find out they're a Duke fan.
Says a lot about someone when you find out they're a Duke fan.
I don't know one that isn't a front runner or just an overall dummy. One friend is a Duke and Patriots fan (coincidentally when they started winning).. another acquaintance is a Duke, Pats AND a Yankee fan lmfao.
And won’t be in the NBA for more than 2-3 years. He’s just what the NBA doesn’t need, a slow, plodding white boy. Maybe the Pelicans draft him. But then, that’s why they’re the Pelicans.
I mean, he made his handle a month ago. The Zion team was awful from the perimeter, which is why they lost earlier than they should have, The John Wall team lost because they couldn't shoot either. When the Zion team made perimeter shots (like vs. Kentucky and at Virginia), they were unbeatable.Go away if you can’t contribute anything more constructive.
Almost certain Flip had some hip surgery during the off season. I couldn’t believe he came back until I read about surgery.
"How is Duke still recruiting so well after coach K???"
Are we still pretending the best recruits aren't paid for by the shoe companies? And I'm not throwing stones, every big time school is involved. Nike and Adidas run the college basketball world. Just the way it works
Are we still pretending the best recruits aren't paid for by the shoe companies? And I'm not throwing stones, every big time school is involved. Nike and Adidas run the college basketball world. Just the way it works
Duke/Bama/Pats/Lakers/Yankees - Believe it or not, I know multiple. I've seen Duke/Ohio State/Warriors/Chiefs
You should read the thread about this on the House of Blue . There’s actually a dude posting on there that grew up in Winchester, went to UK , but was SO impressed with the J Williams /Dunleavy team that he became a huge duke fan . He pays to be on this site because he is a UK football fan but when it comes to basketball…….he’s all Duke .
I told him he was an odd fellow and he said he had been called much worse when wearing his Duke clothes around UK’s campus.
What a freak .
He's the best of the 3, so let's hope he comes back
Model may work but not the coaching
He needs the **** slapped outta him...
What's it feel like to know you won't see Dook pass UK in titles in your lifetime? You are in the wrong place if you are looking for people envious of Dook. Try the NC state site.
When will these recruits realize K isn't there anymore? Why are these 5 stars going to play for a bum?
Guys like you selfishly make your entire fanbase look like D-bags. Please stick around. Every moment you are here shows how envious you are of us and makes your fanbase look pathetic. : )
The biggest problem is not the portal or NIL with our model. The problem is high school kids are no longer taught defense with the AAU circuit. Kids are also not getting any strength and conditioning with AAU. Freshman are now Weak, out of shape and never been taught to play any defense. You can realistically only be playing 2 freshmen and have a shot at a title now days. A one and done roster can’t compete anymore. We have all the offense you could ask for. You can’t win without defense. Freshman only have 4 months to learn it now. Some of our freshman 10 years ago looked like Greek gods as 18 YOs. Now they look like Ty Ty, Boston and Bradshaw. It’s not just us. It’s all HS talent.
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Dude , I’m probably older than you and I knew coach K didn’t invent your program . I remember Duke getting no1 recruiting classes back in the 70’s .
At least you know how to spell it, finally someone with some "cents", and not all of it in his pocket...
(That dook anyway...)Ugo bucked against his handlers last year, but I agree it will be interesting to see what he does.
Regarding Z, my main reason for thinking he leaves is because of his age. He's already 20. That's not old, but the NBA has a funny way of treating players after a certain age.
Bradshaw is beginning to hit me as the type of kid that's going to make his own decisions. Plus, I think he's enjoying college and realizes his body just wasn't ready to make an impact as a 7 footer that just began developing his peremeter game. I'm fine with any player leaving who has a guarantee to go anywhere in the first round. I doubt he gets that guarantee and Cal sells him on coming back to work on his game to get into next year's lottery.
History tells me that 2 of these 3 will declare for the draft. I like Ugo, and think he has a solid place on next year's team. I hope AB or Z returns for another year. Two of these three, combined with the two big freshman, and we are in good shape at the center position next year.
None of the 3 may return, but I don't expect any more high school centers to have serious interest in coming to UK next year.
What is Zach Eddy?? Junior. He was as good as a freshman as any of ours. It’s a Kentucky thing. Not an NBA thing. If you come back. You failed. It’s killed us.
NBA scouts are first to admit they start deducting from player’s potential ceiling based on the player’s age. That is an NBA thing!
Now, I agree 110% with you that UK has created a culture that a high profile recruit feels like a failure if they don’t pro after 1 yr. Many of them state this after they leave the program. I don’t think Cal or staff say this, but (for better or worse) the narrative with hs players is that UK is the school that will get you to NBA in one year. Some are ready for the 1st round after one year, but many are not. I don’t think AB is first round material this year, but I think he can get there with another year at UK. It’ll be interesting to see their decisions!
He probably read this board in February and thought Cal was gonna be fired
Reed Rob and Reeves are the only ones who SHOULD go. I fear we will lose the entire roster except Theiro and Burks.
Whoa … let’s hope not.
Thiero and Burks are great building blocks for next year’s roster. But, we need at least 1 big, and preferably 2 of them to come back.
Like you, I’ve learned to expect every POSSIBLE NBA player to leave regardless if they’re ready.
Yeah, but since it's not 5 of the top 18 college players, I am not concerned with that. In fact, I hope they start all five of them, they all leave at the end of next season and Duke wins the recruiting title again the next year and does it all over again.
But what does concern me some is the fact that Duke has been able to get guys to come back for a 2nd year when it seems the same type of recruit at UK would be 100% OAD. I don't believe that trying to build title contenders with OAD freshmen is smart for a top program, but I can certainly see how talented most of those top recruits are, and how in a 2nd season they can become very dangerous title contenders.
You have apparently never been to the Duke board and saw what he says about UK and the BBN over there. He just minds his P's and Q's when he's here which is better than some of those dorks do when they come over.
I could see Duke joining the B10. The B10 could take a lower level academic school from the ACC and justify it by getting Duke too.
I honestly wonder if Duke fails to create tough kids or if that is just the type player that is attracted to that program. There has to be a legitimate reason they have so many flameouts in the NBA.
And I'm not sure the academics mean much to a student trying to graduate with a sociology degree from Duke. Far too much is made of that.
And I'm not sure the academics mean much to a student trying to graduate with a sociology degree from Duke. Far too much is made of that.
It's a Blueblood program, they are producing good NBA players too. Don't see why Kentucky fans get all up in arms over Duke. They play once every 3 yrs, not in same conference and it's like they worry over rankings of recruits. But then we see UK fans turn around and bash recruiting rankings over Kentucky guys who don't live up to the hype while at UK, which should be proof that not all recruiting rankings matter or can be measured the same.
Kentucky/Duke really don't recruit that much against each other at least not intense battles. The most public/popular pissing contest was over a lazy 7'0 who amounted to be ****--Marques Bolden. Kentucky's offered guys who were Duke locks (Tatum, Giles, Jones/Okafor, Reddish) and then seen how they somehow "lost Zion" which wasn't true at all. Zion Williamson was never a guy Kentucky was expected to land. Not sure why that is always something Cats fans act like was a fatal recruiting loss. They were out prior to Summer of his SR year. Visit meant nothing.
Paolo Banchero was a loss. But look who was on the staff recruiting him. LOL
Kentucky/Duke really don't recruit that much against each other at least not intense battles. The most public/popular pissing contest was over a lazy 7'0 who amounted to be ****--Marques Bolden. Kentucky's offered guys who were Duke locks (Tatum, Giles, Jones/Okafor, Reddish) and then seen how they somehow "lost Zion" which wasn't true at all. Zion Williamson was never a guy Kentucky was expected to land. Not sure why that is always something Cats fans act like was a fatal recruiting loss. They were out prior to Summer of his SR year. Visit meant nothing.
Paolo Banchero was a loss. But look who was on the staff recruiting him. LOL
Cyril might not be at Kentucky if big men currently on the team stay which is understandable for everyone involved. If guys leave as was expected, he'll be here.
From most NBA mock drafts, don’t they have Flip going top ten or in the late lottery?