He only loves it because lsu didn’t want him this year. Don’t kid yourself. Frost supposedly loved Nebraska more than anyone too but didn’t do the work.
Keep MJ as head coach..
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If no other D-I program wants to hire Mickey Joseph as their head coach, why should we? Do you think Wisconsin, Auburn, and Georgia Tech are calling him for an interview?
I'm open to mickey, or keeping mickey and aranda, leopold, rhule, cambell, ksu, herman, lane, stoops, monken or calhoun
not sure bout bama's oc or cinny (they would bolt to nfl or ohio state)
allthough there's coaches alot of places I would look at, jimbo, tark, venerables, sc coach etc..if their seat got hot.
not sure bout bama's oc or cinny (they would bolt to nfl or ohio state)
allthough there's coaches alot of places I would look at, jimbo, tark, venerables, sc coach etc..if their seat got hot.
I find your post interesting, especially where you talk about what Frost left behind for the next guy.
We have heard for 4-5 years that Frost didn't have a chance to succeed based on what Riley left behind. Poor recruiting especially speed, poor S&C and general organizational.
Going back it seems each HC had a missing piece to the puzzle. Great offensive personnel, no D. Solich failed to recruit better athletes while still having a decent staff. Bo was closest to having a balanced team between the D and O but his ego and attitude were a hinderance.
Not to rehash all of this, it is all ancient history but it shows how much things repeat themselves and when a AD or HC identify those weaknesses they had better get them fixed immediately or it is likely to lead their own demise. However, it seems that several think they can overcome or figure it out but never do. It is a difficult and desperate game they play.
The really bad thing for them is that his contract does not include a provision that reduces the amount of the buyout by any money he makes if he gets another job.
Thank God program leadership will not have this viewpoint. It would be another National embarrassment for Nebraska to keep an interim head coach on board after finishing the season no better than it started. Hopefully the team does well down the stretch and there’s an actual argument to keep Mickey on board. Or maybe we already have a big time head coach on board. One that will be hired between the Iowa game and bowl season.
Possibly my biggest question mark with MJ and many other candidates would be the quality of assistants they can bring on board.
If MJ can bring a stellar staff on board, that will make all the difference.
If MJ can bring a stellar staff on board, that will make all the difference.
He has "it" because "it" is recruiting chops and toughness based mentality. Which Frost basically had neither, and sounds like most of our candidates have one or the other (most being toughness, but lack recruiting - very important for Nebraska).
So yeah, I'm not by any means a "Mickey or else!" kind of person. But I am with Kong on how most of our realistic candidates have some down side in some way and would almost rather give Mickey a shot than over pay another known ego like a welfare operation for the wealthy. Mickey is just different in that regard.
Lane might be the only one I would feel better about over Mickey without much doubt (who also seems somewhat realistically possible - outside chance). Urban is likely not coming sadly.
I'm hopeful on assistants with him based on the network of relationships Trev has to where he could step in and assist Mickey in getting top notch guys. Even if Mickey personally doesn't know them himself.
We should have the money to lure top assistants, so it’s just a matter of finding the right ones and making it happen.
Exactly. I hope Trev realizes by now that that is almost more important than the HC hire... Surely he does.
Coaching is also coming up with a game plan and drawing up schemes on defense and offense. How good is Mickey Joseph at those things?
Which begs the question. Would the money be better spent on a name head coach OR by spending obscene amounts on top assistants. I understand that we might be able to do both but IF you can’t get you top 3 candidates could we better off luring top assistants with large guaranteed contracts
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the head coach doesn’t “have” to do that if he has good coordinators. He needs to be involved but doesn’t need to be the author
Tbd. So far though, he seems like a genius with his record of consistently solid halftime adjustments.
However he looks over the game plans of his coordinators, gives his input and either gives it the final ok or tells them to go back to the drawing board. Either way, he has to have broad knowledge of the game, not just knowledge in only one area.
True, but so far we have played the easier teams in our conference. It gets much harder from here on out.
One way or another Busch should stick around. I think he wouldn’t object even to going back to an analyst position if that’s what an outside hire wanted.
It's what happens when NU has hired average to below-average head coaches over the last 25 years. I'm sure had Saban or Meyer immediately followed TO, they would have won another 5 national titles in the last 25 years.
Not sure about Saban. Saban was coaching at Michigan State when Nebraska was winning championships under Tom Osborne. Michigan State was a mediocre team during most of Saban's tenure there.
I can think of two cases where an assistant was promoted to head coach with the overwhelming jubilation of the team the first is Notre Dame this year and look how that’s turning out the other was Major Applewhite at the University of Houston I don’t think he lasted one year the point is promoting assistants that the players like is probably not the right thing to do
My point was this:
Since 2003 (19 years) between Saban and Meyer, they have won 9 NINE national championships at 4 different schools.
Meyer 2 at Florida and 1 at Ohio State. Saban 1 at LSU and 5 at Bama.
Saban moved from Michigan State to LSU after a 34-24 record.
Of course, Saban would not have won national titles at Michigan State, but history shows he went to LSU for 1 national title then Bama for 6 more.
Saban was a mediocre coach at Michigan State. If he had immediately followed Tom Osborne, he probably would have had a couple of mediocre years before winning any championships.
Who ever they get needs to get rid of Zac D .. He hasnt done nothing worth didly here. O line still have guts and are slow as ****. Looking over at huskermax and they got pic of the oline back in early 90's and those guys make what we have look like we run a school for fatties.lolll They were hugh and had alot bigger arms and no guts!
No kidding? Did I say Saban or Meyer would have won a national title at NU the first year they succeeded him?
My point is: Saban went to LSU went 8-4, 10-3, 8-5, and then 13-1, and won the national title. The year before he got there, LSU was 3-8.
He then went to Bama, they went 7-6, 12-1, 14-0, and national title. The year before he got there Bama was 3-8.
Urban Meyer went to Utah for 2 years. In year 1 they went 10-2, then in year 2, they went 12-0. When he got there, Utah was coming off a 5-6 season.
From there to Florida. 9-3, then 13-1 and a national title, then 9-4, then 13-1 and another national title. The year before he got there Florida was 7-5.
From Florida to Ohio State, and went 12-0, then 12-2, then 14-1, and the national title. The year before he got there Ohio State was 6-7.
Regardless of where they went, Saban or Meyer, and even Stoops turned those programs around.
NU was in WAY better condition as a program the year after TO retired (coming off 2 national titles and 3 of the last 4 national titles) than any of these schools. It's highly likely the success would have followed very quickly. Their history says that is true.
The coaching community is extremely small, the second week of January there is an AFCA coaches conference. I would imagine there would be a plethora candidates for MJ to talk to.
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that's too late.. he has to have a permanent staff figured out, or close to it by the early Dec signing period
Absolutely agree dingle.
We shouldn't have to go to the "job fair" to find high-quality coaches.
I have a suspicion that there are some very good youngish head coaches at smaller programs who Trev is considering. One former blackshirt suggested it will likely end up being somebody most have never heard of.
Agree with the pay big money part…for a HC that will bring in a good staff and build something new. I hope he retains MJ, but if not, it is a what it is. MJ and Bush are the only coaches on this staff I want even remotely involved with NU football moving forward. The rest are all a part of a losing culture and need to be gone…and no more former players coming in to “mentor” or build a culture. IMO.
I didn't see Callahan or Riley happening. One could have been good, but he was just too attached to his friend. The other was a story a 5 year old could predict, but did in fact fire his friend to try and improve.
Hmm now that I typed that out and knowing the history of Nebraska's brass picking coaches, this sounds like a disaster brewing.
In Riley's case, he would have been better off if he had kept his friend. Bob Diaco was a total disaster.