KAT vs Embiid

FrankUnderwood

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What does this have to with this thread? I wish your boyfriend would come back to keep you focused.


Well you were throwing a hissy fit about people trying to “burn” you and making fun of people using the “you mad?” (Which is cringe) so I just thought it was kind of ironic given your history of unhinged and random name calling of others?

To each their own though my friend.
 
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Big John Stud

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Well you were throwing a hissy fit about people trying to “burn” you and making fun of people using the “you mad?” (Which is cringe) so I just thought it was kind of ironic given your history of unhinged and random name calling of others?

To each their own though my friend.
Nah dummy, I was laughing at him for thinking he's a Baller because he has a $10 subscription and another person was a broke *** because they didnt. It was the context of his insult that I had a problem with. Why does everything have to be explained to you.

I never randomly said anything to you, you always come at me then start crying when I respond. You usually come in trying to piggyback someone else argument because you have a weird need to try to fit in with the group, then act like a victim when I respond. Like in this post, you had nothing on the topic, just wanted to come at me, now you're the victim.
 
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ryanbruner

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Nah dummy, I was laughing at him for thinking he's a Baller because he has a $10 subscription and another person was a broke *** because they didnt. It was the context of his insult that I had a problem with. Why does everything have to be explained to you.

I never randomly said anything to you, you always come at me then start crying when I respond. You usually come in trying to piggyback someone else argument because you have a weird need to try to fit in with the group, then act like a victim when I respond. Like in this post, you had nothing on the topic, just wanted to come at me, now you're the victim.
I was joking about that lmfao. Regardless I want you to respond to my previous comment. explain to me why crying matters with these guys.
 

Big John Stud

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I was joking about that lmfao. Regardless I want you to respond to my previous comment. explain to me why crying matters with these guys.
It just goes against his fake tough guy act. You guys love the fake tough guy act. That's why he misses 30+ games a year and you think he's a tough guy. That's why Jimmy Butler misses numerous games every year and even sits out games for general soreness and you guys think he's tough because he tells you he's tough.
 

ryanbruner

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It just goes against his fake tough guy act. You guys love the fake tough guy act. That's why he misses 30+ games a year and you think he's a tough guy. That's why Jimmy Butler misses numerous games every year and even sits out games for general soreness and you guys think he's tough because he tells you he's tough.
The guy who won the NBA championship and finals mvp sat out 30+ games. Thats called load management. Teams with legitimate depth unlike the wolves can sit players for multiple games at a time and it not matter lol. KAT just cost his team a playoff spot because of that 2 game suspension. Embiid can sit out the next 25 games and the Sixers would still be a top 2 seed. Also Embiid has never claimed to be a tough guy lol. So its not his act its your assumption. Again youre talking crap about someone crying when our boys have cried as well after every tournament loss. ALSO Jimmy Butler is tough because he was homeless at the age of 13 living on the streets and somehow made the NBA even after his fathers left his family to starve. That is tough lmfao not being able to play 80 games.
 

Big John Stud

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The guy who won the NBA championship and finals mvp sat out 30+ games. Thats called load management. Teams with legitimate depth unlike the wolves can sit players for multiple games at a time and it not matter lol. KAT just cost his team a playoff spot because of that 2 game suspension. Embiid can sit out the next 25 games and the Sixers would still be a top 2 seed. Also Embiid has never claimed to be a tough guy lol. So its not his act its your assumption. Again youre talking crap about someone crying when our boys have cried as well after every tournament loss. ALSO Jimmy Butler is tough because he was homeless at the age of 13 living on the streets and somehow made the NBA even after his fathers left his family to starve. That is tough lmfao not being able to play 80 games.
LOL, OK.
 

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I was joking about that lmfao. Regardless I want you to respond to my previous comment. explain to me why crying matters with these guys.
Nah dude ur a troll and u reek of it. Point one those guys don't really care about the NCAA tourney? If u were a real UK fan and based on your knowledge of the sixers you are a very involved fan so you should know as a UK fan that our former players do care about UK and Cal u can tell this easily on social media based on their posts when the cats play in the tourney. If you were a UK fan u would easily have known this. Nope Troll!


Point 2 you flip flop based on how your trolling is going. For example you started off this thread by saying it was all Towns that Embid did nothing. U said Towns just started throwing punches. To highlight this fact u implied Towns would get a bigger suspension. U then switched ur narrative as your first take showed you were obviously a Troll. U settled with it was both their fault equally but now you are back to the Town's is jus weak and can't handle trash talk. He played here dude and that is the exact opposite of the player we true UK fan saw here. Nope your a Troll.

Point 3 you get to excited about talking up Butler, Embid and Simmons. If you were a UK fan you would know why we and most of college ball don't like him much. He was a very me first college player and was very vocal about it. He basically shut down at LSU after they were out of running for a tourney birth. But if you are a fan you should know this. Nope your a Troll.

Point three u bash the UK players jus a bit much. You go in to much more detail when criticising their flaws. I gnorantly say things that we as UK fans know better we are intense fans and we know our players weaknesses in and out by the time they leave here. We also know the quality of their character. No UK fan can go on and on when praising players at odds with one of our own and then when trying to flip flop and hide your trolldum and say a nice thing about a UK player u are very short with it. U bash Town's for his defense and try to cite the Wisc game as an example of Towns being weak in areas and say he couldnt handle Kaminski. No real UK fan when talking about that final four loss to Wisc. Blames Town's poor defense vs Kaminski plus uk fans know WCS one of the best defensive bigs to ever play at UK was on Kaminski most of the time and Dakari Johnson some. And Kaminski had a decent game but the way you stated it he dominated against us he of anything was a wash cause he had 20 and 10 in 37 min Kat had 16 and 9 I'm 31 min. I don't remember one fan saying Town's got showed up by Kaminski when he was the primary defender on him. And our fan base blames Booker going cold and WCS playing very passive as to why other than a crooked ref. See it's the little things like ur lack of knowledge of UK in regards to what our fan base think is why I know ur a troll but I understand it's alot harder to talk intellectually about what the popular opinions of our fan base is cause u cant access that as quickly on Google after 4 seasons.

And finally and the easiest sign. Upointed out u have been a member for a year and have a sub as well. See ur way to intense in ur fandom of the sixers to also be a big UK fan and just started posting a year ago. Nobody who is not a Troll does that. Especially thinking a year and a 10 dollar sub proves ur a fan? The average person spends that on their lunch and u wouldn't even be the 50th troll who got a sub too. We are the Roman Empire of college hoops u wouldn't believe the stuff people do and say. Trying to prove they aren't trolls. Wait nah u would know if you were an actual fan. The rest of us do. So Troll go away and go worship the 3 dudes u tried to defend on here. Jimmy Butler is a jerk the whole sports world knows this but apparently u. Embiid is an ******* and an instigator something else most fans know. Ben Simmons was a bit if a dick in his one year of college made it clear he hated being made to play a year of college ball we uk fans don't like a guy who obviously didn't care to do what's best for his team wether he wanted to be there or not. Plus he talked **** about us when he was at LSU. But u still wondered why we don't like him. But like I said if u was a fan u would know this
 
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ryanbruner

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Nah dude ur a troll and u reek of it. Point one those guys don't really care about the NCAA tourney? If u were a real UK fan and based on your knowledge of the sixers you are a very involved fan so you should know as a UK fan that our former players do care about UK and Cal u can tell this easily on social media based on their posts when the cats play in the tourney. If you were a UK fan u would easily have known this. Nope Troll!


Point 2 you flip flop based on how your trolling is going. For example you started off this thread by saying it was all Towns that Embid did nothing. U said Towns just started throwing punches. To highlight this fact u implied Towns would get a bigger suspension. U then switched ur narrative as your first take showed you were obviously a Troll. U settled with it was both their fault equally but now you are back to the Town's is jus weak and can't handle trash talk. He played here dude and that is the exact opposite of the player we true UK fan saw here. Nope your a Troll.

Point 3 you get to excited about talking up Butler, Embid and Simmons. If you were a UK fan you would know why we and most of college ball don't like him much. He was a very me first college player and was very vocal about it. He basically shut down at LSU after they were out of running for a tourney birth. But if you are a fan you should know this. Nope your a Troll.

Point three u bash the UK players jus a bit much. You go in to much more detail when criticising their flaws. I gnorantly say things that we as UK fans know better we are intense fans and we know our players weaknesses in and out by the time they leave here. We also know the quality of their character. No UK fan can go on and on when praising players at odds with one of our own and then when trying to flip flop and hide your trolldum and say a nice thing about a UK player u are very short with it. U bash Town's for his defense and try to cite the Wisc game as an example of Towns being weak in areas and say he couldnt handle Kaminski. No real UK fan when talking about that final four loss to Wisc. Blames Town's poor defense vs Kaminski well WCS one of the best defensive bigs to ever play at UK was on Kaminski most of the time and Dakari Johnson some. And Kaminski had a decent game but the way you stated it. Tom Higgins cost us that game. I cant remember one fan saying Town's got showed up by Kaminski when he was the primary defender on him. And our fan base blames Booker going cold and WCS playing very passive as to why other than a crooked ref. See it's the little things like ur lack of knowledge of UK in regards to what our fan base think is why I know ur a troll but I understand it's alot harder to talk intellectually about what the popular opinions of our fan base is cause u cant access that as quickly on Google after 4 seasons.

And finally and the easiest sign. Upointed out u have been a member for a year and have a sub as well. See ur way to intense in ur fandom of the sixers to also be a big UK fan and just started posting a year ago. Nobody who is not a Troll does that. Especially thinking a year and a 10 dollar sub proves ur a fan? The average person spends that on their lunch and u wouldn't even be the 50th troll who got a sub too. We are the Roman Empire of college hoops u wouldn't believe the stuff people do and say. Trying to prove they aren't trolls. Wait nah u would know if you were an actual fan. The rest of us do. So Troll go away and go worship the 3 dudes u tried to defend on here. Jimmy Butler is a jerk the whole sports world knows this but apparently u. Embiid is an ******* and an instigator something else most fans know. Ben Simmons was a bit if a dick in his one year of college made it clear he hated being made to play a year of college ball we uk fans don't like a guy who obviously didn't care to do what's best for his team wether he wanted to be there or not. Plus he talked **** about us when he was at LSU. But u still wondered why we don't like him. But like I said if u was a fan u would know this

You spent all of that time writing that just to sound like an idiot. You can ask Justin Rowland who runs this site if I'm a kentucky fan or you can ask Travis Graf whos a moderator on this site where I was on Kentucky football fan day lmfao I was there same as him while he was covering the team. I drove from augusta ga to lexington ky for a fckn practice just to troll you huh? You sound like an idiot. I have my twitter linked and you can go look at my account lol. I also didnt say ANYTHING about Towns guarding Kaminsky you flaming DA. Learn to proof read. Im a sixers fan as well as UK hell I'm from Lexington BORN AT UK HOSPITAL and grew up on ALEXANDRIA DR AT CROSS KEY APARTMENTS. You don't know anything about me so don't assume anything. I also never said anything about kentucky players not caring about kentucky as a program. I was referring to college basketball players as a whole.
 
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ryanbruner

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I dont owe a former Kentucky basketball player anymore loyalty than I owe a Sixers player from a team I grew up rooting for same as Kentucky. I said KAT and Embiid both were at fault and I never changed from that position. I only ever said anything about KAT or Embiid to Keyser because he gets too easily worked up. I really have a bad opinion about either player. Both have had the same damn faults their entire career. Again stop assuming anything about me lmao. Or you can just ask the guys who run this site about my fandom.
 

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You’re really reaching to make embiid seem tougher than he is. Load management? That’s not why embiid misses. Okay maybe it’s why he misses but if he’s already doing that at...25 years old it’s because he’s physically fragile and been hurt a ton. IE, soft.

I can see where being better on defense is a valid argument if it’s an effort thing but KAT has never lacked for effort. Rebounding is effort and KAT averages a double double for his career. He actually averages more than embiid. Rebounding is one of the more physical aspects of the game because there’s no way to be good at it and avoid contact. KAT up to now was just not good at defense.

The playoffs thing is a terrible argument for two reasons. One was already mentioned. The EAST has been awful compared to the west for several years. And 2, it’s a team game. KAT can’t control the fact that jimmy butler is certifiably insane, a team cancer and didn’t want to be in Minnesota anymore and Minnesota management giving a player that truly couldn’t give a **** a max contract. The Wiggins deal is probably one of the biggest miscalculations by a teams front office in a long time.

Lastly, I respect the hell out of KAT for being able to bite his tongue through all of that and continuing to just quietly do his job despite the fact you know he realizes it all and is probably dying to speak up. It’s not his place to though and he has a sense of awareness unlike so many players in that league.

If KAT were ever soft it was in high school when he wanted to play on the perimeter too much but Cal and Kenny Payne fixed that permanently. Soft big men don’t work out at UK.

Skal was and is still soft. SKJ was soft. KAT? Definitely not and there’s really no good argument for why embiid is tougher.
 

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I mean Joel has played in and won playoff games and series. I think KAT has been to the playoffs once just barely and probably shouldnt have because they fell from like 3rd seed to 8th seed when Butler got hurt. Regardless another reason was because Joel is the best defensive big in the league and up until this year KAT was one of the worst and least versatile big defenders in the league. He's gotten better this year though. He...like Jokic will never be very good defensively though because they are crafty and smooth but they dont have elite athleticism or defensive motors.
Lmfao Embiid the best defensive big in the league? That’s an Olympic level stretch there. Rudy Gobert is twice the defender that Emmy is. Are all philly fans this ignorant?
 
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Lmfao Embiid the best defensive big in the league? That’s an Olympic level stretch there. Rudy Gobert is twice the defender that Emmy is. Are all philly fans this ignorant?
And Rudy can’t defend wings and guards. You don’t watch the games. Embiid can guard 1-5. That’s part of the reason the Jazz struggle to find his role in the playoffs.
 

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And Rudy can’t defend wings and guards. You don’t watch the games. Embiid can guard 1-5. That’s part of the reason the Jazz struggle to find his role in the playoffs.
Lmao Embiid’s lard *** can’t defend against a guard. Jesus you can’t honestly believe the crap you’re saying.
 
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Embiid made it to the 2nd round in the East by beating a bad Miami Heat team in 2018 and a bad Brooklyn Nets team last year. The East is weak sonits easy to.make the playoffs and he got to play weak teams in the first round, then he got dominated by Al Horford in 2018, and Marc Gasol made him literally cry last year.

KAT made a Final Four and led the team with the record for most wins in a season on NCAA history. Embiid didnt even play in the NCAA tournament because he's soft and always hurt.
I for one was glad Embiid got hurt that... No one could stop him until he got hurt. If he stayed healthy... UCONN or us doesn't make that championship game.
 

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And Rudy can’t defend wings and guards. You don’t watch the games. Embiid can guard 1-5. That’s part of the reason the Jazz struggle to find his role in the playoffs.

did you just say Embiid can guard 1- 5. ROFLMAO

You also said load management and miss 30+ games. ROFLMAO

hahahaha, congrats on making **** up.

Also defensive rating BPM and DWS for Rudy Gobert has been noticeably higher than Embiid...

BTW Al horford could be argued to be better too.
 

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Hard to cover all the angles... huh ryanbrunder?
 
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Big John Stud

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I for one was glad Embiid got hurt that... No one could stop him until he got hurt. If he stayed healthy... UCONN or us doesn't make that championship game.
They were like us, they had all that talent and lost 10 games. 8 with a healthy Embiid. Who knows if they wouldve gotten their act together like we did.
 
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I for one was glad Embiid got hurt that... No one could stop him until he got hurt. If he stayed healthy... UCONN or us doesn't make that championship game.

Wow. This sure sounds like hyperbole.

Embiid averaged only 11 pts per game at Kansas. If he was supposedly this titanic force that "no one could stop" in college, then don't you think he should've averaged more than that? And don't you think he would've started more than only 20 of the 28 games he played?

And, btw, the majority of Kansas' 10 losses that season occurred BEFORE they lost Embiid.

Embiid certainly showed huge promise in college, but he was not yet the sort of unstoppable force that you are describing. And that Kansas team was very beatable with or without him.
 
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