K State--how does Snyder do it?
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It's not so much that they have lower academic standards than us, they have an agreement that if you graduated from a Kansas juco with a pulse, they have to take you.
Snyder is one of the best college football coaches ever. Kansas State was the worst team in College Football when he took over and at his best, they won 11 games 5 out of 6 years. I wonder what he could have accomplished at a blue blood.
Seriously learn something before u open your mouth. There are a total of 3 starters on this years team who are junior college transfers. But please continue this idiotic narrative. Bottom line, the man can coach period.
Dude chill out. I didn't say anything bad about Snyder. I happen to think he is a great coach. I was speaking to the fact that there is an agreement(or whatever you call it) between Kansas jucos and Kansas universities that allow them automatic admission as long as they graduate from the juco. It's why Clinkscales got into KSU when nowhere else would accept him.
Not a K State fan at all. But yes great coach! He would of won 11 games with are team this year. I know a lot of guys that say he is old and is done. Texas A and M had a lot better talent than K State. I knew K State would maybe sneak up and win this game not surprised.
So how do you explain the 10 seasons with 7 or less wins? All those loyal cat fans basically ran him out of town in 2005 because of back to back losing seasons. They got a taste of Ron Prince and then begged him to return.
I think Snyder is a very good coach, He did a incredible job building K State from nothing. But great coaches don't fluctuate in win totals from 7 to 11 to 8 to 6 to 9. He was consistent in the late 90s to early 2000s then something changed and his teams aren't able to compete consistently for conference titles is a weak Big 12.
I think Snyder is a very good coach, He did a incredible job building K State from nothing. But great coaches don't fluctuate in win totals from 7 to 11 to 8 to 6 to 9. He was consistent in the late 90s to early 2000s then something changed and his teams aren't able to compete consistently for conference titles is a weak Big 12.
Most of the CFB world thinks he's done an outstanding job. I think he's one of the greatest coaches in all of CFB, ever, and he can beat Texas.
Great coach and a great evaluator of talent. I wish back in 2008 Nebraska would have offered him the job
And if he had similar results at Nebraska as he does K State since 2008, he would have been run out of town after 2 years. IMHO
No one has ever done more with less than Snyder! He would do even better at Oregon State.
Ok great. But Nebraska fires coaches when they don't win conference championships. Bill Snyder has won only 2 Big 12 titles and 2 outright North titles in 25 years. He did great things at Kansas St. winning 2 out of every 3 games, with losing seasons, but that gets you replaced at Nebraska.
Snyder is the greatest coach ever at KSU and a legend. He will never be fired at 9-4 or 7-5 or even 5-7. He inherited the worst football program in the NCAA each and every year and made them a solid, competitive team that can play with anyone.
They tried replacing him with that moron Cookie Monster coach who quickly destroyed all Snyder had done. KSU came to their senses and brought Bill back and with him instant respectability.
Comparing the 2 programs is apples and oranges because KSU has never been to the penthouse once let alone 5 times. The expectations here are far greater because we have won it all.
What do you think his record would be at Nebraska? It's all conjecture, but I'm convinced multiple national titles.
Really. No way he loses to Wisconsin even are Mr. .500 about beat them. He coaches we beat Iowa by two touchdowns. He isn't Mr. Rogers nice guy.
I stated above my deep admiration for Snyder. I truly believe he is a great coach.
However, I think Tuco raises a valid point about Snyder's overall record at KSU. Yes, they were hideous and a joke before he got there. Yes he built them into a good team. BUT, he never really got them over the hump and into consistent top ten, national title contenders, status.
So clearly he can "coach 'me up". Clearly he can find diamond in the rough three star talent. But why could he never recruit elite talent to KSU?
So to me here is the real question: how much harder is it to recruit to Manhattan than to Lincoln? Would Snyder have been an elite recruiter if he was Nebraska's coach or would NU have sunk to KSU levels of steady but unspectacular seasons?
However, I think Tuco raises a valid point about Snyder's overall record at KSU. Yes, they were hideous and a joke before he got there. Yes he built them into a good team. BUT, he never really got them over the hump and into consistent top ten, national title contenders, status.
So clearly he can "coach 'me up". Clearly he can find diamond in the rough three star talent. But why could he never recruit elite talent to KSU?
So to me here is the real question: how much harder is it to recruit to Manhattan than to Lincoln? Would Snyder have been an elite recruiter if he was Nebraska's coach or would NU have sunk to KSU levels of steady but unspectacular seasons?
Snyder is the best coach on CFB period. He does more with less year after year after year....
Why? His teams beat Nebraska on ocassion and they had 11 win seasons there but couldn't win it all. Why would he be able to win it all here? He and his staff don't bring in highly rated classes, he coaches like an underdog, playing not to lose. They try to slow the game down, limit possessions and steal wins. When he plays teams with more athletic ability, or a team that does what they offensively only better, they lose more than they win, as you can see with his 8-10 Bowl record.
If he coached Nebraska we would be Iowa 8 wins many years, an occasional 10 win season, and a losing season every once in a while.
Wrong, his recruiting would be dramatically better. K State is harder than Kansas to recruit to, Oregon State would be much easier for him. Don't think for a second he would have the same record at Nebraska, that is so naive.
KSU never fired Snyder sub par seasons for the same reason(s) we keep sub par basketball coaches around longer than more successful programs would.
I've met Bill at least 3 times and he may be the kindest and nicest coach in football. The guy is humble, modest and treats you with respect. For you to say he isn't Mr Rogers nice guy, I get your jab at Riley, isn't at all accurate.
RC Slocum quote yesterday "
- In my lifespan pf knowing a bunch of legendary coaches, of all the ones I've ever met Bill Snyder is the best football coach I've ever known personally. There is no one that has coached college football better than Bill Snyder given where he's done it at.
- Kansas State uses an old-school philosophy and will not beat themselves. You have to beat them. It will probably be a great game and they will definitely be well coached.
My nephew was recruited by Snyder to KSU from a Nebraska 8 man program and started as a redshirt freshman. Then Prince came and he tried to transfer to NU, but Prince would not let him out of his scholarship. So he had to sit out 2 years, because of him. Love Snyder as a coach.
Dang, Ertz was a 2 star recruit with only 1 other offer from Western Illinois! Snyder is a miracle worker!
I always wondered if Snyder was at Missouri and factor in that states' recruiting base. My oh my, look out.
Coaching and developing talent. Recruiting is important, but coaching and player development is equally important. I wouldn't want to know how our team would fair against K-State, Colorado, North Dakota State in a bowl game this week. We already know how we match up to Iowa. We've out recruited all of those teams, yet we would probably lose to each of them without Tommy at QB.
TA would have been an All American with Snyder as coach.
Former Oklahoma coach Barry Switzer once said, "Bill Snyder isn't the coach of the year, and he isn't the coach of the decade. He's the coach of the century."
I would think with Nebraska football resources he would have won some conference championships. KSU is probably one of the toughest places to win at.
Opinions about Snyder's coaching ability or career are meaningless because he is already in the College Football Hall of Fame. He was inducted in 2015 which goes to show that he is well respected by the National Football Foundation and past winners.
Now back to the meaningless arguments about his accomplishments and if he is a great coach... Winking