Just Between You and I

[stoneycat_20]

I don't respect anyone who kneels during our National Anthem. It's disrespectful to our men and women who serves and have served our country. That is why we stand, not kneel.

I think Cal knows that was a mistake, but his hands were kinda tied..that's why he said "I kneeled with my team, but I had my hand over my heart"..they pissed off a ton of BBN...I'd bet Brooks & Clarke were the two that pushed this

As far as the team, Cal has tried many things and none have worked. I think he's shocked as we are..he said preseason.." we have to have an NCAAT because I have a good team"... PG and shooting are the main problems, but I don't think that's the only problems

 

[bluecoon1]

I can understand the OP’s initial post. I kind of felt the same way during Curry and Joker years in football, the more we lost the sooner they would be fired. You can wait it out with Cal and he will get some high b-ball IQ players some seasons to overcome his inept coaching, but overall he’s slowly killing this program.

 

[sk73]

Excellent point. So as not to offend please insert my revised comment....

"Just between us boys, girls, transgender, gender neutral, non-binary, agender, pangender, genderqueer, two-spirit, third gender, and all, none or a combination of these....." My pronouns? (he/him/his)

You are not likeable.

 

[wildcatwelder_rivals]

It is also very American to be patriotic and dislike protest during games or being disrespectful at the playing of the national anthem or flag. People are allowed to raise awareness to that as well.

Excellent point sir, kudos; one that the leftists simply can't refute, because in so doing they then defeat their own argument, becoming, GASP!!, hypocritical.

 

[Cole World]

If taking a knee disgusts you then boy do I feel bad for yalls wives

 

[KyFaninNC]

“We”? You got a turd in your pocket?

They are twins

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

I’m just curious...
...why do you constantly keep talking about these players’ 2nd Amendment rights?

First amendment....

 

[KyFaninNC]

If taking a knee disgusts you then boy do I feel bad for yalls wives

If taking a knee that shows disrespect to those that fought and died does NOT disgust you, I feel sorry for any kids you may raise.

 

[JwUKFan11]

If you are a snowflake I can assume being called anything can be offensive. I suggested that you research the term. That is how they described themselves. I do not get offended when being called white although it is used as a derogatory term today by the woke. White Skin Privilege for example. Don't use "white" then because you are using that to be offensive. eyeroll

Lmaooooo yeah because white people in America have been oppressed for so many years.

 

[warrior-cat]

You are not likeable.

Actually it was socially correct and funny. AKA likeable.

 

[warrior-cat]

If taking a knee disgusts you then boy do I feel bad for yalls wives

as long as your boyfriend is good with it, more power to you.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

I would prefer they did not disrespect the national anthem or flag and that was my original point. I chose not to watch because of that. Most who are opposed to that would rather watch a game and not be disrespected by the team prior to it. What they do in their off time is their business but, during game time they should respect us as much as we do them. Nobody has the power to tell me I can't call them on what I see as disrespectful either.

Respect is a two way street. Asking someone else to give up their first amendment rights is disrespectful as well.
You don't have the right to enforce your belief system and/or revoke the Constitutional rights of others just because you paid for a game ticket and some Rupp Arena ice cream.
You can't ask them to "Shut up and dribble" when you can't "Shut up and watch".

 

[Dr. H Lecter]

Lmaooooo yeah because white people in America have been oppressed for so many years.

That really is not the point. Not surprising you missed it.

 

[sk73]

If taking a knee that shows disrespect to those that fought and died does NOT disgust you, I feel sorry for any kids you may raise.

My kids were raised to have open minds, be kind to others and, they do possess analytical thought skills. They are smart enough and thick skinned enough to know that kneeling, in this case, is not disrespectful to our veterans. They know that it is because of our veterans that we have the right to the free expression of our beliefs. Obviously, they learned more than you . I am guessing they would probably feel sorry for you.

 

[TheBlueDisciple]

They know that many feel it is disrespectful and that in its self is like spitting in the face of those who want them to succeed. No one here wants them to fail or be unjustly treated and by no means are they. These kids actually have it very good. Most of which has come to light these days has been misrepresented and over played for political reasons. But to the point, no one is saying these kids can't protest, the timing of it does not sit well with many and to those of you on here saying people are using the military to shut black people up, how ignorant are you? This not a black thing or a military thing. You question our supposed inability to understand what this is all about yet spout this crap which really is way off base.

Go back and read what I was responding to. That post directly refutes your arguments.

“Protest on your own time”- You do see the issue with a white guy dictating to a black guy when and where it is “acceptable” to protest right? Pretty much falls in the category of telling them not ok to protest.

“That flag and that anthem represent a lot of folks who died for their luxury beliefs” - pretty much makes it a military thing.

Again just pointing out that was the poster I was responding too, which contradicts you saying “nobody is saying it’s about those things”.

 

[Oneandnotdone38]

My kids were raised to have open minds, be kind to others and, they do possess analytical thought skills. They are smart enough and thick skinned enough to know that kneeling, in this case, is not disrespectful to our veterans. They know that it is because of our veterans that we have the right to the free expression of our beliefs. Obviously, they learned more than you . I am guessing they would probably feel sorry for you.

Exactly. How many times has it been reiterated. It has nothing to do with the troops? If these players kneeled against the troops I would say F them too. It's never been about that. But it's not even worth rehashing at this point. People are gonna believe what they believe.

 

[warrior-cat]

Respect is a two way street. Asking someone else to give up their first amendment rights is disrespectful as well.
You don't have the right to enforce your belief system and/or revoke the Constitutional rights of others just because you paid for a game ticket and some Rupp Arena ice cream.
You can't ask them to "Shut up and dribble" when you can't "Shut up and watch".

No one told them to shut up cupcake. We are just expressing our right to dislike disrespecting the flag or national anthem. That is what you are so ignorantly missing. They kneeled and no one stopped them. We simply said how disrespectful it was and if the snowflakes like yourself can't take the heat, hurry up and melt because, it's not going to change my acting upon my first amendment right to tell you and them I don't like it. If that is disrespectful then, good.

 

[warrior-cat]

Go back and read what I was responding to. That post directly refutes your arguments.

“Protest on your own time”- You do see the issue with a white guy dictating to a black guy when and where it is “acceptable” to protest right? Pretty much falls in the category of telling them not ok to protest.

“That flag and that anthem represent a lot of folks who died for their luxury beliefs” - pretty much makes it a military thing.

Again just pointing out that was the poster I was responding too, which contradicts you saying “nobody is saying it’s about those things”.

Go back and understand that it is disrespectful to do so no matter whether it is because someone cited military reasons. There are many, many people out there who love this country who never served who think it is disrespectful too and this is still not a racial matter. It is only ignorance or the lack of a good argument to make it racial. That card has been played out.

 

[warrior-cat]

Exactly. How many times has it been reiterated. It has nothing to do with the troops? If these players kneeled against the troops I would say F them too. It's never been about that. But it's not even worth rehashing at this point. People are gonna believe what they believe.

It's not about the troops, it's about disrespect to the nation. Now some may include those who fought and died and they have that right too.

 

[KyFaninNC]

Respect is a two way street. Asking someone else to give up their first amendment rights is disrespectful as well.
You don't have the right to enforce your belief system and/or revoke the Constitutional rights of others just because you paid for a game ticket and some Rupp Arena ice cream.
You can't ask them to "Shut up and dribble" when you can't "Shut up and watch".

You simply refuse to accept what many of us have said, so I will put it in all caps.

NOBODY IS SAYING THEY CANT OR SHOULD NOT DO IT. BE PREPARED FOR KICK BACK IF YOU DO. WE HAVE JUST SAID IT WAS NOT THE PROPER TIME OR PLACE. IF YOU MUST DO IT, DO IT AT RUPP.

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

No one told them to shut up cupcake. We are just expressing our right to dislike disrespecting the flag or national anthem. That is what you are so ignorantly missing. They kneeled and no one stopped them. We simply said how disrespectful it was and if the snowflakes like yourself can't take the heat, hurry up and melt because, it's not going to change my acting upon my first amendment right to tell you and them I don't like it. If that is disrespectful then, good.

No need for name calling. Not sure about you but I'm not letting other people's expression of their rights or opposing views about it lead to rage typing and anger towards my fellow Americans.
The only anger I feel is for the MAGA rioters/cop killers and the BLM rioters/cop killers.
Those are the Americans causing real damage to our country.

 

[Oneandnotdone38]

Go back and understand that it is disrespectful to do so no matter whether it is because someone cited military reasons. There are many, many people out there who love this country who never served who think it is disrespectful too and this is still not a racial matter. It is only ignorance or the lack of a good argument to make it racial. That card has been played out.

Well do you know what is disrespectful. Veterans that gave their lives for this country ending up homeless. Police killing unarmed people period. Putting people behind bars for petty crimes like selling weed. The prison and jail system is a joke that hurts more then it helps.

The lies taught in these old outdated textbooks and that gets passed down as American history. And we could go on and on.

There's alot to protest in this country. I absolutely do not agree with rioting and looting.. But it's time this country turned a page.

The flag is a symbol. And right now there's not much to respect about that flag. And many feel the same way.

 

[TheBlueDisciple]

Go back and understand that it is disrespectful to do so no matter whether it is because someone cited military reasons. There are many, many people out there who love this country who never served who think it is disrespectful too and this is still not a racial matter. It is only ignorance or the lack of a good argument to make it racial. That card has been played out.

Your ignorance is showing. Why is it disrespectful? Who says it is? You? I have heard from multiple members of the military who do NOT view it as disrespectful towards them at all, because they actually understand the intent behind it and the issues attempting to be addressed.

Hiding behind the blanket of “it’s disrespectful because it just is!” argument is sad, empty, and played out. It indicates you have zero understanding and want to just fall back on the “because America dangit!” Because you have nothing of substance to actually counter with.

 

[jameslee32]

How many of you find yourself in a deep dark part of your gut....find yourself in a situation like today, hoping we lose.

 

[warrior-cat]

No need for name calling. Not sure about you but I'm not letting other people's expression of their rights or opposing views about it lead to rage typing and anger towards my fellow Americans.
The only anger I feel is for the MAGA rioters/cop killers and the BLM rioters/cop killers.
Those are the Americans causing real damage to our country.

Fair enough.

 

[warrior-cat]

Your ignorance is showing. Why is it disrespectful? Who says it is? You? I have heard from multiple members of the military who do NOT view it as disrespectful towards them at all, because they actually understand the intent behind it and the issues attempting to be addressed.

Hiding behind the blanket of “it’s disrespectful because it just is!” argument is sad, empty, and played out. It indicates you have zero understanding and want to just fall back on the “because America dangit!” Because you have nothing of substance to actually counter with.

Well, this is just stupid but I have already come to expect this from you. Guarantee more military than the "multiple" you know find it disrespectful and more Americans than you can imagine do as well. I am around military everywhere I go here and just retired 5 months ago from working on base at FT Sill. You have no clue as to what I understand and I guarantee you I understand a lot more than you could imagine or be told to understand. But once again, not just the military but many other people in this country feel this way as well. The intent behind it is not the point being made here. It is the fact that you and others do not understand why people are upset even though it has been known since the 60's that this would not be received well. Your lack of understanding of history or anything outside of your snowflake world shows just how little you know.

 

[warrior-cat]

Well do you know what is disrespectful. Veterans that gave their lives for this country ending up homeless. Police killing unarmed people period. Putting people behind bars for petty crimes like selling weed. The prison and jail system is a joke that hurts more then it helps.

The lies taught in these old outdated textbooks and that gets passed down as American history. And we could go on and on.

There's alot to protest in this country. I absolutely do not agree with rioting and looting.. But it's time this country turned a page.

The flag is a symbol. And right now there's not much to respect about that flag. And many feel the same way.

Parts I agree with but others no. There has been a misrepresentation of the happenings between police and those being arrested. Yes there are some instances that were police acted unprofessionally and unlawfully but, not as many as portrayed. Those who did wrong should be punished but, there is a time, place, and forum for peaceably making this point. Some don't think is should be at games or during the anthem. And I feel the same way.

 

[Oneandnotdone38]

Parts I agree with but others no. There has been a misrepresentation of the happenings between police and those being arrested. Yes there are some instances that were police acted unprofessionally and unlawfully but, not as many as portrayed. Those who did wrong should be punished but, there is a time, place, and forum for peaceably making this point. Some don't think is should be at games or during the anthem. And I feel the same way.

This is a sport dominated by black athletes that have seen a version of this country that quite frankly some haven't.

They have friends or family incarcerated they grow up to fear the police. You are correct that some of these things haven't been portrayed correctly.

George Floyd wasn't an honorable man. A statue of him is absurd. But we all saw what we saw. And it's sickening to see that kind of thing happen here.

Now what most people are upset about in BBN is the Talk about a Rupp Arena name change and I understand that. Because that is absurd.

 

[warrior-cat]

This is a sport dominated by black athletes that have seen a version of this country that quite frankly some haven't.

They have friends or family incarcerated they grow up to fear the police. You are correct that some of these things haven't been portrayed correctly.

George Floyd wasn't an honorable man. A statue of him is absurd. But we all saw what we saw. And it's sickening to see that kind of thing happen here.

Now what most people are upset about in BBN is the Talk about a Rupp Arena name change and I understand that. Because that is absurd.

I agree that his shooting was completely uncalled for and have said that here. Shot in the back multiple times was wrong.

I am not opposed to better training and clearer laws of engagement but, in the end it comes down to justification vs reality and there should be no bias against the outcome if it is plain. His shooting was plain wrong imo.

ooops got that one wrong floyds was knee on the neck just realized. But the shooting in the back in Wisconsin of Jacob Blake for me was wrong as well

 

[TheBlueDisciple]

Well, this is just stupid but I have already come to expect this from you. Guarantee more military than the "multiple" you know find it disrespectful and more Americans than you can imagine do as well. I am around military everywhere I go here and just retired 5 months ago from working on base at FT Sill. You have no clue as to what I understand and I guarantee you I understand a lot more than you could imagine or be told to understand. But once again, not just the military but many other people in this country feel this way as well. The intent behind it is not the point being made here. It is the fact that you and others do not understand why people are upset even though it has been known since the 60's that this would not be received well. Your lack of understanding of history or anything outside of your snowflake world shows just how little you know.

Haha, the fact you continue to use “snowflake” in your vocabulary is pretty telling and tells me all I need to know about you. You’re a grown man, right? Act like one. If you want to actually converse with adults, be better. It’s not worth continuing this discussion with you as it’s apparent where your capacity for actual understanding and discourse is at. But hey, have fun calling everyone juvenile names. Hope it brings you some level of satisfaction.

 

[warrior-cat]

Haha, the fact you continue to use “snowflake” in your vocabulary is pretty telling and tells me all I need to know about you. You’re a grown man, right? Act like one. If you want to actually converse with adults, be better. It’s not worth continuing this discussion with you as it’s apparent where your capacity for actual understanding and discourse is at. But hey, have fun calling everyone juvenile names. Hope it brings you some level of satisfaction.

When you've earned it, own it. I guess your comments about ignorance and old white guys here not knowing or understanding what's going on is on an adult level as well. Once again there are two standards we are supposed to abide by according to you. Learn something about people and that there are two sides to every argument before you discount others. The lame stream media is not the end all be all for your information out there.

 

[ArtSmass]

My kids were raised to have open minds, be kind to others and, they do possess analytical thought skills.

I relate to this. I, too, was raised to be open-minded, see people beyond the color of their skin, and--in the words of MLK--to "judge people by the content of their character."

Today, if I were to mention that I want to see beyond color and promote the idea of a 'meritocracy' in all things, I'm labeled a racist.

I just want ALL to have the same opportunities to succeed in what is BY FAR the greatest country of opportunity in the world. But I am concerned that today if you do achieve and reach a level of "success" you will immediately be castigated for the fact that it was your 'privilege' that helped you get there.

 

[Skyguyb27]

Yea I’ve lived in Kentucky all my life and I’m confident the people aren’t as ignorant and backwards as you think. Keep running with that.

No one wants politics in sports. It’s evident by all 10,000 post about it so far and the fact you don’t get a single like yet someone telling you how wrong you are get a lot. Your clueless and stuck in your own misery.

 

[bkingUK]

No one wants politics in sports. It’s evident by all 10,000 post about it so far and the fact you don’t get a single like yet someone telling you how wrong you are get a lot. Your clueless and stuck in your own misery.

It’s “You’re”

And “your” problem isn’t politics in sports. If you shared equal opinion that racism shouldn’t be tolerated, I’d assume you have no issue with players kneeling.

But again, I quite frankly don’t care what you people do. You all are treated with kid gloves. If you’re waiting this out for the university to not support black players, you’re going to waiting a long time. Man up and find a new team,

 

[Skyguyb27]

Why do so many on this board have such a dramatic problem with black folks expressing themselves? Honestly. I sincerely don't get it. It's almost, and I know this can't be true, that this board is filled with racists that exemplify the stereotypes of the south. And don't give me the disrespecting the flag nonsense, because that doesn't make any sense and most of these same support Trump who called dead vets losers, mocked a war hero and called our generals war mongers.

If you don’t get why you stand for the flag then that’s your own stupidity for not doing research. It doesn’t matter if the person kneeling is black, white, or brown it’s wrong and disrespectful.

 

[Skyguyb27]

It’s “You’re”

And “your” problem isn’t politics in sports. If you shared equal opinion that racism shouldn’t be tolerated, I’d assume you have no issue with players kneeling.

You are the only racist here as far as I can see. (Did I do it right grammar police?) And yeah I watch UK to enjoy sports, I don’t watch for people to tell me how they feel about politics. If I wanted that I’d log into Twitter.

 

[ekywildcat_rivals26726]

I would never watch the Cats hoping they lose, and I've always been a Cal fan up until his kneeling decision. Still want the Cats to win but lately I just been watching to see what they can screw up. Last night at the end of the game, we had Brooks thinking he was Larry Bird and Askew thinking he was Bob Cousy. I just laughed, doesn't even upset me anymore.

I went to a one room school grades 1-6, first thing we did every morning was say the pledge of allegiance. If you don't think kneeling disrespects the flag and our country, that's a choice you can have because of where we live.

 

[VA/UK]

Well do you know what is disrespectful. Veterans that gave their lives for this country ending up homeless. Police killing unarmed people period. Putting people behind bars for petty crimes like selling weed. The prison and jail system is a joke that hurts more then it helps.

The lies taught in these old outdated textbooks and that gets passed down as American history. And we could go on and on.

There's alot to protest in this country. I absolutely do not agree with rioting and looting.. But it's time this country turned a page.

The flag is a symbol. And right now there's not much to respect about that flag. And many feel the same way.

Hate America much? We have a marred but otherwise incredible history. Pull your head out of your rear end. It’s frightening to know that so many ignorant ingrates like you exist in the greatest country known to mankind.

 

[Oneandnotdone38]

Hate America much? We have a marred but otherwise incredible history. Pull your head out of your rear end. It’s frightening to know that so many ignorant ingrates like you exist in the greatest country known to mankind.

No I don't hate America. I'm just not a fake patriot that holds on to lies about this country like you.. Every country has issues.

So shouldn't we fix them. Or keep spouting the same nonsense you do. Greatest country known to mankind lol? We could be. But we won't with that attitude.

 

[bkingUK]

You are the only racist here as far as I can see. (Did I do it right grammar police?) And yeah I watch UK to enjoy sports, I don’t watch for people to tell me how they feel about politics. If I wanted that I’d log into Twitter.

All that from players kneeling huh?

There is a whole lot of issues that are easier to ignore. But here’s the thing, players kneeling is only political to the people who have an agenda to oppose their message.