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jteten

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Whoever we keep, great, whoever we add down the stretch, even better. Positioning for the next class is what will help determine this coaching staffs recruiting chops.
 

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Last post in this thread.

No way we hold this kid down, either way.

Let's move on to "real" recruits.

GBR
 

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We have needed more wideouts the last few classes, and heard so much whining and bitching when we went after them.

Now we are in this position with the native son coming home, and needing them. I wonder if some people are realizing just how wrong they were every time they complained just to complain.

This sucks, no other way to say it.

Most of that bunch are to ignorant to even realize that.
 
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Most of that bunch are to ignorant to even realize that.
They are probably too ignorant to realize that if they are complaining about cupboards and numbers now, they were likely the same ones saying we don't need any more receivers before.
 
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Redblood23

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Who's recruiting Texas? A lot of under the radar targets in state that UT and A&M will over look. I'd go hard in Texas for WR and RB'S.
 
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Here's the current 2018 list of WRs on the roster next year:
Bold names have played in games.

Stanley Morgan Jr. 6-1 195 Sr. New Orleans, La.
Bryan Reimers 6-5 210 Sr. Lincoln, Neb.
Keyan Williams 5-10 195 Sr. New Orleans, La.
Zach Darlington 6-2 195 Sr. Apopka, Fla.

Conor Young 6-2 180 Jr. Cozad, Neb.

JD Spielman 5-9 180 So. Eden Prairie, Minn.
Tyjon Lindsey 5-9 160 So. Corona, Calif.
Ty Chaffin 6-5 200 So. Burwell, Neb.
Johnny Richard 6-5 203 So. Atlanta, Ga.
Todd Honas 5-11 195 So. Aurora, Neb.


Jaevon McQuitty 6-0 195 RFr. Columbia, Mo.
Dylan Reynolds 6-0 170 RFr. Broken Bow, Neb.
Brandon Robbins 5-10 190 RFr. Bellevue, Neb.
Kade Warner 6-1 200 RFr. Scottsdale, Ariz.
Chad Aloth Jr. 6-2 170 RFr. Omaha, Neb.
Christian Banker 6-1 185 RFr. Omaha, Neb.

We may not have very many on scholarship, but there are plenty on the roster to at least practice with. Still, we need 5 WRs in this class and a couple JUCOs would help even the WR classes out a little.

Like others said above in this thread, why the hell would a WR not want to play in this offense?!?
 

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There should be 6 scholarship WRs going into spring. KJJ will be back. Coach Dubs kid really can’t transfer unless he wants to go down to FCS. Stanley is the only threat of not returning. We shall see on that.

And don’t forget all the TEs we have. Very talented. very athletic. This staff will have no problem playing them like slot WRs.
 
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TA&M has recruited 3 WRs every year for 4 years (4 in 2016) and has 3 in this class. Pretty even classes overall.

Frost and Co. should show the recruits the list of scholarship WRs coming back next year and tell them that they will play as a true freshman because we don't have enough on the roster.

UCF completed 271/389 passes while Nebraska completed 265/459. Nebraska passing attempts are inflated since they played from behind so often. In 2016, 9 and 4 Nebraska completed 201/400 passes. UCF was only 244/448 in 2016. Hopefully Nebraska's QB can complete more in 2018.

UCF completed passes to 8 different WRs this year, 4 different RBs, 4 different TEs, and even a 6' 311 pound defensive lineman for a TD!

We need numbers since this offense distributes the ball everywhere on the field. A great way to keep the defense guessing where the ball is going to go!

No matter what, I think Frost will get at least 4 WRs to commit, because he has no other choice due to the horrible numbers left by Riley (and KW). Hopefully he gets good speed and hands.
 

GeorgeFlippin

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Life goes on!
 

huskerfan1414

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So he was on-board with the staff that went 4-8 and had the 87th ranked offense, but is not on-board with the staff that went 12-0 with the 5th ranked offense.



So much this. It makes zero sense.
Look at our depth, plus everything great about nebraska, plus the staff coming in is obviously better than the last one. Obviously. Makes no sense.
I wonder what williams and co were telling these guys.
 

huskerfan1414

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Unless someone can take the time to educate me on why KW was a top notch coach and recruiter, I just don't see it. Here is the WR recruiting from KW's first two classes:

Derrrion Grim – quit while KW suspended
Spielman
Tyjon Lindsey
Keyshawn Johnson Jr – status unknown
Jaevon McQuitty
Joseph Lewis – signing day decision to USC
Jamire Calvin – flips to Wash St right before NSD
Bryan Thompson – signing day decision, signed with Utah on NSD
Jerimiah Hawkins – target, committed to Cal on NSD
Isaiah Simmons – Nebraska lean signed with Clemson
Dez Fitzpatrick – target, signing day decision to Louisville
Whatever happened to grim?
And does fitz play? I think he does but dont follow louisville.
 

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I don't begrudge any kid who decides to leave when the coach(es) he wanted to play for are no longer here. Good luck to him.

I say good riddance, if a kid wanted to play for those coaches he is seriously lacking in judgement.
 

Hoosker Du

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That's why Frost sent out offers to new WR targets when he got the job. I expect he'll get some guys to help us forget the Riley recruits who go elsewhere.

But, but, but...we can't live without the Williams recruiting receivers and DBs. Laughing How many times did we hear people crying to the heavens "Our recruiting class is falling apart!!" We're not Alabama in terms of recruiting, but if the coaching staff puts in a modicum of effort, we will always be able to bring in very good talent to Lincoln.
 

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but if the coaching staff puts in a modicum of effort, we will always be able to bring in very good talent to Lincoln.
Hard to agree with this as of right now. Frost and Co are going to have to put in a lot of effort in recruiting to bring in very good talent.

Once they start winning championships recruiting will get easier, but for right now they can't put in just modicum of effort otherwise we're going to end up with Pelini results.
 

Hoosker Du

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Hard to agree with this as of right now. Frost and Co are going to have to put in a lot of effort in recruiting to bring in very good talent.

Once they start winning championships recruiting will get easier, but for right now they can't put in just modicum of effort otherwise we're going to end up with Pelini results.

Pelini ended up with Top 20 classes 2 or 3 times, if I recall correctly, which would be fine with me, now that we have Frost as head coach. We will win 10 games a year under Frost with Top 20 classes.
 
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TruHusker

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There should be 6 scholarship WRs going into spring. KJJ will be back. Coach Dubs kid really can’t transfer unless he wants to go down to FCS. Stanley is the only threat of not returning. We shall see on that.

And don’t forget all the TEs we have. Very talented. very athletic. This staff will have no problem playing them like slot WRs.

The WR recruiting has taken some hits. Get a kid who backs out at the last second, another who doesn't make it to fall practice, another who gets hurt. If you have those three or two of them all the sudden things look better.

We are severely missing the taller receivers, plenty of speed in this bunch of scholarship kids. Don't see any of the walk on having that speed factor.

The TE's have shown nothing to make me think we have a gold mine there. Lots of them, a couple played this year but couldn't block me. We do have some height, we have a nice basketball team there. Watched some UCF films but frankly can't tell you exactly how SF uses the TE. I know it is not traditional.
 

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I tip my hat to you for doing that. Have a strong one when you get home.
You know, no alcohol needed. I think our group gets as much or more out of doing it than the prisoners do. It's interesting that the services around Christmas are not as well attended as the ones during the rest of the year. Pastor says it's just because the Christmas is really tough for the guys when they know that they'll still be here while their families are opening presents. We also do a giving tree thing at our church where we get the first names of their kids and buy them presents from their wish list. Then we see that they're delivered them "from their dad". We only do services at lower security units but still it's an interesting look at life behind razor wire. For now our group hasn't been in to the maximum security prison in our area. You just never know who you might reach and give hope to through music. We do Christian contemporary music and are blessed to have several long time rock band musicians as well as some talented female singers in our group.
 
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spinner4_rivals42045

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The WR recruiting has taken some hits. Get a kid who backs out at the last second, another who doesn't make it to fall practice, another who gets hurt. If you have those three or two of them all the sudden things look better.

We are severely missing the taller receivers, plenty of speed in this bunch of scholarship kids. Don't see any of the walk on having that speed factor.

The TE's have shown nothing to make me think we have a gold mine there. Lots of them, a couple played this year but couldn't block me. We do have some height, we have a nice basketball team there. Watched some UCF films but frankly can't tell you exactly how SF uses the TE. I know it is not traditional.

The old staff (for the most part) used TE's like it was 1990. Hand in the dirt, block first, & receiver second. That's just not modern football anymore. At the end of last year, they started to rethink the TE's role and the TEs started producing receiving yards. If your knock on them is they can't block great, so, what's that gotta do with catching a ball? Jimmy Graham can't block but he's still an elite TE in the NFL. Jordan Reed when he's healthy, same thing.

Notice when Langsdorf stated the offense needed to get it's TE involved in the passing game, we saw more Stoll on the field and a guy like Engelhaupt ended up in the two deep. I believe we have talent here in the receiving game. I think your right in that they lack great blocking skills but hopefully that can be developed under the new staff. But TE has became too important in the passing game in football to ignore. They create match-up nightmares when lined up in the slot. Frost used his tight end Akins @ UCF very nicely. He was third in receiving yards on the team last year.
 

Hoosker Du

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As we all know those classes were crap because he took the modicum approach. Again, Frost can't take that approach.

He had a couple classes that I thought were very good. The 2011 class had 11 4-star players, and if Bo could have kept them here, they would have all had a decent impact on the program.

BTW, I never suggested Frost put in minimal work. I was saying that Bo brought in good classes while putting in little effort.
 

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You know, no alcohol needed. I think our group gets as much or more out of doing it than the prisoners do. It's interesting that the services around Christmas are not as well attended as the ones during the rest of the year. Pastor says it's just because the Christmas is really tough for the guys when they know that they'll still be here while their families are opening presents. We also do a giving tree thing at our church where we get the first names of their kids and buy them presents from their wish list. Then we see that they're delivered them "from their dad". We only do services at lower security units but still it's an interesting look at life behind razor wire. For now our group hasn't been in to the maximum security prison in our area. You just never know who you might reach and give hope to through music. We do Christian contemporary music and are blessed to have several long time rock band musicians as well as some talented female singers in our group.
Should have asked you this earlier but forgot what thread this was in. Do you know the guy who heads up prison ministry? Maybe there is more than one, but he's been to our church a couple times over the years doing a presentation and our church gave donation. Worthy cause
 

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Should have asked you this earlier but forgot what thread this was in. Do you know the guy who heads up prison ministry? Maybe there is more than one, but he's been to our church a couple times over the years doing a presentation and our church gave donation. Worthy cause
Don't know where you're at but I'm not aware of any formal prison ministerial organization other than in the Catholic church. The ELCA I guess has some paid prison ministers as well. I'm not in Nebraska and the pastor of our church has done prison ministry for probably the last 15 years so she lines it all up for us. The group I get to sing with has people in it from 3 states and multiple denominations.
 
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HuskerO58

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He had a couple classes that I thought were very good. The 2011 class had 11 4-star players, and if Bo could have kept them here, they would have all had a decent impact on the program.

BTW, I never suggested Frost put in minimal work. I was saying that Bo brought in good classes while putting in little effort.
No, but you said;
but if the coaching staff puts in a modicum of effort, we will always be able to bring in very good talent to Lincoln.
Which won't fly at Nebraska if we want to become elite again. Bo proved as much.
 

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The old staff (for the most part) used TE's like it was 1990. Hand in the dirt, block first, & receiver second. That's just not modern football anymore. At the end of last year, they started to rethink the TE's role and the TEs started producing receiving yards. If your knock on them is they can't block great, so, what's that gotta do with catching a ball? Jimmy Graham can't block but he's still an elite TE in the NFL. Jordan Reed when he's healthy, same thing.

Notice when Langsdorf stated the offense needed to get it's TE involved in the passing game, we saw more Stoll on the field and a guy like Engelhaupt ended up in the two deep. I believe we have talent here in the receiving game. I think your right in that they lack great blocking skills but hopefully that can be developed under the new staff. But TE has became too important in the passing game in football to ignore. They create match-up nightmares when lined up in the slot. Frost used his tight end Akins @ UCF very nicely. He was third in receiving yards on the team last year.

Let's think this through just a bit. Some and I mean, very few TE's are "in the slot" that often. Most of the time they come from the traditional TE position. The past O line had problems and the TE was relegated to "stay in" and help block. That happens often when the front five can't get the job done. You have TE's that have to be able to do both, it isn't an either or proposition. The guy on Husker Chalk Talk when comparing some plays to last year noted we weren't running some because our TE's were consistently getting knocked into the backfield.

Everyone wants the great pass catcher, I get that, but there is a lot of dirty work the TE has to do as well.
 
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Let's think this through just a bit. Some and I mean, very few TE's are "in the slot" that often. Most of the time they come from the traditional TE position. The past O line had problems and the TE was relegated to "stay in" and help block. That happens often when the front five can't get the job done. You have TE's that have to be able to do both, it isn't an either or proposition. The guy on Husker Chalk Talk when comparing some plays to last year noted we weren't running some because our TE's were consistently getting knocked into the backfield.

Everyone wants the great pass catcher, I get that, but there is a lot of dirty work the TE has to do as well.
We were forced to max protect because the O-line refused to run block, and was horrendous at pass blocking. You are 100% correct here. Langsdorf had his hands tied because of the horrid line play.
I will be severely disappointed in the new staff if Gates is starting at LT next year. He is awful, and Foster not much better. Decker was the only one of them who looked good at times.