Jobs not Mobs

DvlDog4WVU

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Two leftist responses and it’s very indicative of why you’re gonna lose in 2 weeks.
 

30CAT

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Take a DUMP on TRUMP

What, exactly, are you not liking that is going on in our country today?

The jobs? The economy? The record low unemployment rate among minorities? Decades low unemployment overall? ISIS put in check? New and better trade deals? Securing our borders? Lower taxes? Cutting unnecessary and overreaching government regulations?

What are you not liking? I'm guessing it has something to do with team politics, but enlighten me.
 

tjebarr

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What, exactly, are you not liking that is going on in our country today?

The jobs? The economy? The record low unemployment rate among minorities? Decades low unemployment overall? ISIS put in check? New and better trade deals? Securing our borders? Lower taxes? Cutting unnecessary and overreaching government regulations?

What are you not liking? I'm guessing it has something to do with team politics, but enlighten me.

relatives are soybean farmers and they are about to lose their farms over Trumps fight with China.
 

tjebarr

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What, exactly, are you not liking that is going on in our country today?

The jobs? The economy? The record low unemployment rate among minorities? Decades low unemployment overall? ISIS put in check? New and better trade deals? Securing our borders? Lower taxes? Cutting unnecessary and overreaching government regulations?

What are you not liking? I'm guessing it has something to do with team politics, but enlighten me.

do u want to call them and tell them how great of a job Trump is doing?

Trade War: What Chinese soybean tariffs mean for Ohio farmers
https://www.daytondailynews.com/new...-ohio-soybean-farmers/JwqTDBeHtVm8Lh9WRaM2IO/
 

30CAT

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relatives are soybean farmers and they are about to lose their farms over Trumps fight with China.

So...You're complaining about something that hasn't happened yet? I get that is worries you, but someone has to do something about China. He did ease some pain with a soybean deal with Europe, but again. We can't let China keep ripping off America.

Worry, I see...But not liking the Administration over the soybean market? Not time for that yet.

Obama put coal companies out of business and workers out of jobs and was proud of it. He put manufacturing and factory jobs overseas. Is it because it didn't affect your family that you was okay with Obama?
 

Boomboom521

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I like it. My neighbor and I have the sign in our yards so when the professor walks his dog he gets that sour look on his face. I think I will yell MAGA at him if I see him this evening.
Wow. So you hate your neighbor just because he’s a professor?
 

BobbyBoucheer

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Wow. So you hate your neighbor just because he’s a professor?

No, I don't hate him....I dislike his point of view. He is a hard left liberal globalist that thinks that anyone that doesn't think like he does is contemptuous.

He's a pompous *** and doesn't mind showing it off.
 

jpoppa

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Wow. So you hate your neighbor just because he’s a professor?
 

tjebarr

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So...You're complaining about something that hasn't happened yet? I get that is worries you, but someone has to do something about China. He did ease some pain with a soybean deal with Europe, but again. We can't let China keep ripping off America.

Worry, I see...But not liking the Administration over the soybean market? Not time for that yet.

Obama put coal companies out of business and workers out of jobs and was proud of it. He put manufacturing and factory jobs overseas. Is it because it didn't affect your family that you was okay with Obama?

Trade War: What Chinese soybean tariffs mean for Ohio farmers
https://www.daytondailynews.com/new...-ohio-soybean-farmers/JwqTDBeHtVm8Lh9WRaM2IO/
 

Pospecteer

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do u want to call them and tell them how great of a job Trump is doing?

Trade War: What Chinese soybean tariffs mean for Ohio farmers
https://www.daytondailynews.com/new...-ohio-soybean-farmers/JwqTDBeHtVm8Lh9WRaM2IO/


This is dated 9/30- two months after your article was posted.

The US is actually holding steady (down 3% for the year) but sold more in August (+16%-the month after the tariffs went into effect) and Asia is admitting that they will be forced to buy more US soybeans at the higher price. China put the tariff on a product that they can't grow themselves and it is actually costing them more money which will drive up inflation in their country. On the flip-side, the US put tariffs on things that can be made in the US (once factories start up production again), allowing US companies to start new businesses. And a lot of those workers will be union employees. Why is this a bad thing?

Soybean trade turns topsy-turvy amid US-China tariff war
Brazilian prices soar as American exports to China fall 90%

MAIKO SUGIYAMA, Nikkei staff writerSeptember 30, 2018 21:08 JST
China is paying more for Brazilian soybeans, raising concerns in Beijing about inflationary knock-on effects. © Reuters
TOKYO -- The U.S.-China trade war is dramatically changing the global flow of soybeans, along with prices of the legumes.

American soybean export contracts with China have sharply decreased since July, affected by the countries' tit-for-tat tariffs. On the other hand, U.S. exports to the European Union, other Asian countries and Oceania have increased significantly.

Prices of U.S. products have hit the lowest levels in about a decade, while Brazilian prices have surged as Chinese buyers shifted from the U.S. to the South American country. And since soybean meal is used in pig feed, this is pushing up pork prices, fueling concerns about Chinese inflation.


Every year, China ships in over 100 million tons of soybeans, or 60% of the global total. The country has been the biggest buyer of U.S. soybeans, procuring 60% of them. But Beijing imposed an additional import duty of 25% on American soybeans in retaliation for Washington's tariffs, and the impact is starting to show in statistics.

Weekly farm export figures from the U.S. Department of Agriculture show that sales to China totaled about 130,000 tons in August, one-tenth the level a year earlier.

In contrast, exports to EU countries jumped about 190% to roughly 1.08 million tons. The shipment volume to the rest of Asia and Oceania grew 60% to around 1.56 million tons. So for August, total U.S. soybean exports actually increased 16%, to about 3.84 million tons.

At a glance, this would suggest the U.S. has successfully found other places to sell its output. But total exports for the crop year that ended in August were still down 3% on the year, at 56.4 million tons.

The year's exports to China dropped 23%, to 27.7 million tons.

"The U.S. has not been able to make up for the declines in exports to China," said Hideki Hattori, general manager at Tokyo's Food Management Support, a subsidiary of trading house Itochu.

Recent benchmark prices in Chicago declined to a little over $8 per bushel, due to the export pressures coupled with forecasts of a bumper crop in the U.S.

To protect U.S. farmers' incomes, the government is trying to push shipments from northwestern ports -- a large portion of which used to go to China -- toward Japan, South Korea and Taiwan.

The sharp drop in exports to China has led to a reduction in surcharges on spot transactions for northwestern shipments, added to Chicago price levels. The surcharges are down to about 30 cents per bushel in September, from about $1 in March.

Mitsuyuki Nishimura, Japan director of the U.S. Soybean Export Council, said he has orders from council headquarters to remind Japanese oil makers that soybeans shipped from the northwest are cheaper than those transported from the Gulf of Mexico.

Meanwhile, China's shift toward Brazil has triggered competition with European importers, resulting in the higher prices there. The surcharge on Brazilian soybeans rose threefold from a year ago to around $2.7 per bushel in mid-July, according to Sumitomo Corporation Global Research.

But China will not be able to satisfy its 100 million-plus tons of demand without the U.S., said Naoyuki Omoto, head of Green County, a Tokyo-based grain consultancy. "Eventually, China will have no choice but to buy at least a certain amount of U.S. soybeans that carry high tariffs," he said.

Higher soybean costs are a worry for Beijing, given the knock-on effects on pork prices. The meat holds significant weight in the country's consumer price index.

Higher Brazilian prices also hurt Japanese foodmakers that import soybeans for tofu production.
 

Boomboom521

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Oh, and you should work for a news organization. Thats the kind of take they would use from my post.
Maybe you should have used the word pompous in your op, then I would have understood. You used neighbor and Professor, and it was implied that the Professor was liberal. I was curious
 

eerdoc

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relatives are soybean farmers and they are about to lose their farms over Trumps fight with China.
Highly doubtful.
Work harder to come up with a better one tomorrow. I also have family who make their living as bean and corn farmers. Overjoyed with the trade policies of this administration.
 

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Maybe you should have used the word pompous in your op, then I would have understood. You used neighbor and Professor, and it was implied that the Professor was liberal. I was curious

I brought him up before on this board so I was speaking in the familiar. I should have assumed some would not have read what I have written before on this subject.....my bad.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Maybe you should have used the word pompous in your op, then I would have understood. You used neighbor and Professor, and it was implied that the Professor was liberal. I was curious
Latest Harvard study out said that it was 12/1 Lib/Con in academia. That’s just absurd.
 
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What about the article I posted? Is that well researched? It was from an Asian financial article.
Looks legit. Makes sense. My reply was to eerdoc who said his family that farms is overjoyed with the trade policies. If you are selling most any products to China this season, things must be tough sledding.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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What’s your view of academia before reading the results of that study?
Figured around 75%. 92% is a pretty damning indictment of where we’ve regressed as a society. With the groupthink and self congratulatory behavior over counterthought and the challenging of history it really makes me think of the novel by Ayn Rand, Fountainhead. I found that one to be far superior to Atlas Shrugged.