Jarred Vanderbilt to UK !!!

akaukswoosh

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[eyeroll] Yes b/c that is the rational line of thinking . Knox was unlikely regardless and now he is even moreso which is A-ok . If you can get a future lotto pick at SF you do so.
Duke brought the whole staff to watch Knox recently. I've always felt it's either Duke or FSU. Not UK. Vanderbilt is a neat player. Needs to improve his jumper but can man three positions, passes like a PG and plays over the rim.
 
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brian5562

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Another shooter would be nice but next year's team is looking like a good to very good defensive team. Add Bamba and wow.
If Young came as well fantastic if Diallo comes and not young we might not be able to shoot but would there be a more athletic team in the country?
 
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With Cal selling positionless basketball, could he be thinking about this lineup?

PG Green - shooter and gamer
SF Vanderbilt - versatile, ball handler and passer
SF Knox - shooter and versatile
PF Washington - bruiser and hybrid
C Bamba - athletic freak and shot blocker/rim protector

I think it just might work...........
Not likely we get Knox now
 

westerncat

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Another shooter would be nice but next year's team is looking like a good to very good defensive team. Add Bamba and wow.
If Young came as well fantastic if Diallo comes and not young we might not be able to shoot but would there be a more athletic team in the country?
JMO but I don't think Diallo will pick UK.
 

Ajax10

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Vanderbilt is THE best ball handling SF in the class. Quick, clever with the ball and long. He will be a match-up nightmare for teams, can rebound and block shots. No, he can't shoot but his other intangibles are 2nd to none He started on the USA basketball team this summer for a reason.
 

yoshukai

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finish the class up with Bamba and a couple guards that can shoot and UK will be right there again next season. One thing is for sure... every single guy UK has committed/signed right now all have defense listed as a strength.

Bamba is the best rim protector in high school. Richards is another one of the best. Vanderbilt was known as a good defender, Alexander the same, Green led the EYBL in steals, Washington was known for his defense. All of Vanderbilt, Richards, Bamba, and Washington averaged double figure rebounds in EYBL this past summer.

May see a lot of 75-55 games next season.
I could live with that all day long . But I don't see anyway we score 75 against teams we'll have to beat to have a good year .
 

Bluesnky

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Gonna call it right now....Washington and Vanderbilt give UK the best pair of forwards Cal has had at UK. Basketball is all about creating match up problems and these 2 together will be a match up nightmare for opponents. Do need to go get a wing shooter and shot blocker now (Bamba and ??)
Tough to beat Kidd-Gilchrist and Jones.
 

yoshukai

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[eyeroll] Yes b/c that is the rational line of thinking . Knox was unlikely regardless and now he is even moreso which is A-ok . If you can get a future lotto pick at SF you do so.
You'll see . How many important minutes can a sub 50% free throw shooter play ?
 

Bluesnky

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LOL , of course I'm not rated to him , but Vanderbilt is a worse version of two players we already have for next year. At this point our best offensive play will be an offensive rebound. Teams will be able to play 5 guys in the paint , pretty hard to drive on that defense. If we sign Young everything changes . If we sign Diallio it gets worse . We got the no.1 class in the country but the pieces don't fit .
Knox isn't exactly a sharpshooter out there. Also I bet Knox plays PF in college.
 

caneintally

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What's nice about this class is Cal may be building for the future. None of these 2017 recruits are necessarily 1AD. Some of them will be back.

That may mean 2017 season could have some bumps.. but 2018, if recruiting goes well, could be a monster year.
Yep. So excited for the rest of this season and 2018 as I think both years final 4's are the minimum. Next season I think will be like 2011 and 2014, we will lose 8-10 games but we can make a final 4 run as by March we will be lethal.
 

Aike

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You're right, but I think Cal really wants Bamba and for good reason. I think he sees a version of AD in him. Not a scoring machine but goodness he is so long. Highly intelligent kid. But the line up UK has plus who likely returns will be very talented. Vanderbilt kind os reminds me of MKG and Washington a little like Mash. Not saying they are on that level, but body types and style.

I think we could be looking at a mirror of 2012, with Vanderbilt in the MKG role, Washington as T-Jones, Bamba as AD, Green as Teague, and hopefully Young as Lamb.

Not quite as talented and certainly much greener to start the season, but similar makeup.

Obviously need a couple more things to happen to pull this off.
 

caneintally

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You'll see . How many important minutes can a sub 50% free throw shooter play ?
LOL ok man . Yes let's pick out the one thing he can't do well and disregard all the other things . You are too much man ..too much [laughing] .Also how much did briscoe play last season? How much did Dakari play ? they were at or below 50% and also you are only looking at his stats last summer. For HS he shot in the mid 60's from the line . But I understand you are picking and choosing stats to suit your arguement . And to be clear your arguement that people who don't make freebies don't play much as to be the dumbest , most ill informed one I have ever heard. NO they won;t play in the last 2 minutes but literally every single year on most every single team guys play a ton of minutes without shooting free throws well. Vanderbilt is the most overall talented kid we have so far for next season. He can handle like a pg , he can pass , he can jump , he can run , he make jumpers decently ( like Jones or Poy did) , he is a smart kid , he is a good kid . But yes he usually on shoots between 55-65% from the line , Big whoop.
 

UK90

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LOL , of course I'm not rated to him , but Vanderbilt is a worse version of two players we already have for next year. At this point our best offensive play will be an offensive rebound. Teams will be able to play 5 guys in the paint , pretty hard to drive on that defense. If we sign Young everything changes . If we sign Diallio it gets worse . We got the no.1 class in the country but the pieces don't fit .

Valid points. Looking like next year we may look very much the opposite of this year's team. Less running. More big-lineups and half-court bully ball approach. Lower scoring, but better defensively.

It does appear that three point shooting might be a glaring weakness next year (even more than it usually is for us). We're losing the only three guys who can hit threes on this year's team (Mulder, Willis,Monk) without new three shooters to replace them.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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LOL , of course I'm not rated to him , but Vanderbilt is a worse version of two players we already have for next year. At this point our best offensive play will be an offensive rebound. Teams will be able to play 5 guys in the paint , pretty hard to drive on that defense. If we sign Young everything changes . If we sign Diallio it gets worse . We got the no.1 class in the country but the pieces don't fit .
Let's just tell them all we'd rather have other players so we are not accepting your commitments. You really feel this way toward these players? Wow. So glad I don't have to be around "fans" like you. Shame you put down kids like this who are very good and have pledged to come play for the team you say you like. Probably said enough before I say too much.
 
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RoyKent

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I have really liked Vanderbilt for a long time. Great to see him become a Cat!

But, man oh man, if this year's team struggles shooting, next year's team is looking very scary (right now).
 
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kyups01

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I guess next season we are going to play 4 bigs/forwards (with 4 more backing them up) and a PG.
 

Nuke99m.

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Valid points. Looking like next year we may look very much the opposite of this year's team. Less running. More big-lineups and half-court bully ball approach. Lower scoring, but better defensively.

It does appear that three point shooting might be a glaring weakness next year (even more than it usually is for us). We're losing the only three guys who can hit threes on this year's team (Mulder, Willis,Monk) without new three shooters to replace them.

Without new shooters to YET. Some of you act like we are done recruiting and won't have any transfers coming in.
 

letitrainuk_rivals88012

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Vanderbilt is THE best ball handling SF in the class. Quick, clever with the ball and long. He will be a match-up nightmare for teams, can rebound and block shots. No, he can't shoot but his other intangibles are 2nd to none He started on the USA basketball team this summer for a reason.
Thank you for that. When Cal first got here I kept up with recruits religiously. It got too much for me to keep up with so I had to just quit and read post like yours after a commit. Haha
 
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I understand the issues around shooting but we should be thrilled we just got an athletic, slashing wing. That's been by far Cal's biggest weakness as a recruiter.
 

Wall2Boogie

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A wise man once said you need shooters you can never have too many! No shooters? Ffffffaaaaaarrrrrr cccccaaalllllll!!!!!!!!
 

G-PIP

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With Cal selling positionless basketball, could he be thinking about this lineup?

PG Green - shooter and gamer
SF Vanderbilt - versatile, ball handler and passer
SF Knox - shooter and versatile
PF Washington - bruiser and hybrid
C Bamba - athletic freak and shot blocker/rim protector

I think it just might work...........

Or, what's so bad about this lineup?

PG Green - shooter and gamer
SF Vanderbilt - versatile, ball handler and passer
SF Gabriel - mid-range shooter and versatile
PF Washington - bruiser and hybrid
C SKJ - mid-range shooter and very nice overall offensive potential, and a shot blocker/rim protector
 

Wall2Boogie

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Or, what's so bad about this lineup?

PG Green - shooter and gamer
SF Vanderbilt - versatile, ball handler and passer
SF Gabriel - mid-range shooter and versatile
PF Washington - bruiser and hybrid
C SKJ - mid-range shooter and very nice overall offensive potential, and a shot blocker/rim protector
Please tell me this is a joke g Pimp ask puke what's wrong with it.
 
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kyups01

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All these posters who are making fun of the "we need shooters" crowd who always bring up Cal's Final 4 appearances as a reason to worship him....do you realize how many final 4's he would have won had he actually had 3 point shooters? The only team that had 3 point shooters was the freshman combo of knight and lamb. Laugh all u want and throw them final 4 appearances out there...but had he had 3 ball shooters (meaning more than one at a time) he would have at the very minimum 3 championships here!
 
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Untouchables22

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Here is my question WAS THE MYSTERIOUS SECOND LOI REAL????? Correct me if I'm wrong but this is not a signing period currently and Vanderbilt can't sign for awhile. Has Cal had this commitment for weeks and sat on it until BBN nation needed some good news and to change the momentum of the program? He is a PR genius.
 

Calsthebomb

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I could live with that all day long . But I don't see anyway we score 75 against teams we'll have to beat to have a good year .
Not hard to average 75 a game. Look at Louisville. They're terrible on offense and average 78.
 

Untouchables22

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All these posters who are making fun of the "we need shooters" crowd who always bring up Cal's Final 4 appearances as a reason to worship him....do you realize how many final 4's he would have won had he actually had 3 point shooters? The only team that had 3 point shooters was the freshman combo of knight and lamb. Laugh all u want and throw them final 4 appearances out there...but had he had 3 ball shooters (meaning more than one at a time) he would have at the very minimum 3 championships here!
I'm right there with you on your point but the 38-1 team had Booker and Ullis they just didn't get to play in the penultimate moments.
 

Primedfor9

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Great get, I don't mind if this hurts us with Knox..I'd much rather Cal take the bird in the hand than risk losing both. I'm hoping we can add Bamba and a couple of grad transfer guards for experience and of course we need more guards but this class is shaping up very nice.
 
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Ben101er

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I'd say it probably will and it's his own fault. Vanderbilt probably realized he better commit before him if he knew UK was where he wanted to go. I'm sure we'd still take Knox but I don't think this helps us with him.

I am not so sure. In fact, I think it may help with Knox. I have heard that Cal has been telling Knox that he is going to play him about like he does Monk. And, Knox will probably be a sg in the league. So, the addition of Vanderbilt insures that he would not be battling big men, while getting his shots on the perimeter/wing. I suppose it will be interesting to see, but I want Knox really badly. If we get him, and Bamba, we are loaded.
 
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Nuke99m.

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All these posters who are making fun of the "we need shooters" crowd who always bring up Cal's Final 4 appearances as a reason to worship him....do you realize how many final 4's he would have won had he actually had 3 point shooters? The only team that had 3 point shooters was the freshman combo of knight and lamb. Laugh all u want and throw them final 4 appearances out there...but had he had 3 ball shooters (meaning more than one at a time) he would have at the very minimum 3 championships here!

IF.If.If.If.If. I hope one day some of you all get a Tubby or Billy like coach back. They always had us in the final 4 with a chance. But at least they had three point shooters then.
 

kyups01

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Booker Harrison and Willis couldnt shoot??
Booker could. Harrison was mediocre at best...hit a few big ones in the tourney and everyone acted like he was an assasin. Willis is hardly a 3 point shooter. He had a streak last year...look at him now. I am not talking about players that can hit them occasionally, I am talking about reliant 3 point shooters...booker is the only you mentioned in this post.
 

Cawood86_rivals

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Vanderbilt is THE best ball handling SF in the class. Quick, clever with the ball and long. He will be a match-up nightmare for teams, can rebound and block shots. No, he can't shoot but his other intangibles are 2nd to none He started on the USA basketball team this summer for a reason.
Can't see how he did that according to some.....[smoke]
 
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SemperFiCat

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All these posters who are making fun of the "we need shooters" crowd who always bring up Cal's Final 4 appearances as a reason to worship him....do you realize how many final 4's he would have won had he actually had 3 point shooters? The only team that had 3 point shooters was the freshman combo of knight and lamb. Laugh all u want and throw them final 4 appearances out there...but had he had 3 ball shooters (meaning more than one at a time) he would have at the very minimum 3 championships here!

I swear you're really starting to sound like UMM. You must be a very unhappy person.
 
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