I do think that green will be more of a quarterback , ball distributor though . Supposedly lots of players love playing with him .
Jarred Vanderbilt to UK !!!
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I'm amazed everyone hasn't put him on ignore already. Did so long ago and don't regret it for a second.
Your joking right? Green shot over 40 percent from 3 his soph and junior season. Shot 38 percent during eybl circuit. 40 percent back to back years when your the focal point of the teams defense is very very good.
Green is way better 3pt shooter than Briscoe..I will even say Green is a very good shooter
A way better three point shooter than Briscoe could be anything from a bad to great three point shooter given his aptitude.
Green has been a very effective player in the EYBL. He was decent from 3, 37.7%, and very good from the line, 84%, for his career. His real strengths lie in his assisting and ball handling, dishing out almost 10 assists per game while sporting a 4:1 assist to TO ratio. In fact, he had 15 more steals than turnovers.
The EYBL numbers suggest Green will be a playmaker. He projects to be great at running a offense, setting up teammates, and capable at punishing players from deep if not respected. On the PG continuum, he will be closer to a Ulis in style than Wall or Fox.
What if a guy never shoots anything but layups? That isn't necessarily proving him as a shooter. Shaq had a very high fg% but few would ever consider him a good shooter. Marcus Lee is the all-time FG% leader here.
Zaytovern back at it again.
He could find something negative with winning the $300 million lottery
He could find something negative with winning the $300 million lottery
Ahhh. That explains it. Everyone seemed to be getting annoyed and I couldn't see why. I love ignore [banana]
I agree, he sounds like a real treat to be around. I bet his family is thrilled to spend Christmas with him.
We seem to have four kinds of negative posters on here. We got the sky is always falling make up their mind about it with very little info. We got the guys who will post negative stuff wanting our more in the know posters to make them feel better. We have the crafty troll just wanting to get a rise out of everyone and be subtle u know the wolf n sheeps clothing kind. Finally the impulse control troll pretend to be a fan come on the site say a negative comment that is ludicrous have 100 posters light him up severely and they post CAL CHEATS as they disappear forever. It's pretty funny to watch.
Vanderbilt, EYBL.
It's why he dropped out of the top 10.
I think a good comparison for Vanderbilt might be Stacey Augmon. He might not be quite that explosive (Augmon is a high standard), but he's a Swiss Army knife forward, potential defensive force. Who struggles with his shot. Who was recruited alongside a forward who made 7 threes in 23 games in the EYBL, and shot 55% from the FT line. And alongside a center who has absolutely no range outside 5 feet.
So we shall see.
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I left Young off because as of right now for me I don't see him coming here.. And whoever said Vanderbilt isn't a true small forward,, we'll they're a F'n idiot.. Can guard the 1-4 spot,, great handles,, does everything you want in a 3,, minus his shooting which will get better once he gets here..
He can handle decent and has average passing and can't shoot. A TRUE 3 can do all of those things better than him. He's a 4 that will play time at the 3 here because we play "position less basketball" which is much like the DDMO, in that it sounds good to recruits.
I get your point and Vanderbilt will be fine on the defensive side playing the 3. Just don't think he has dribbling, passing and shooting skills I would like to see in a small forward.
He hustles like MKG and can guard guards and 4s.. You don't necessarily need a scoring 3,, just one that has a good motor and can guard multiple positions..
If the ones that I think will return with the addition of Bamba,, he'll play a lot at the 3 and Gabriel will play some there too..
MKG was a. very good free throw shooter , Vanderbilt shoots under 50% . Vanderbilts jump shot makes MKG look like Steph Curry . Which would be fine ,if we had others that could stretch the floor . MKG was fortunate to play with possibly our best ever 3 point shooter , plus Darius Miller was very good .
You're missing the point . You have to have SOMEBODY that can score ,this isn't really about Vanderbilt . It's about the makeup of the class . We need Young desperately .
In the films I saw I didn't think Vanderbilt's form was all that bad, granted it was a highlight video. MKG's forms was/is really wicked, best team player I can remember but his form was awful.
Every report I've read about Vanderbilt is that he has excellent passing skills, as well as the ability to grab rebounds and start the break.
Is there something you've seen to make you think he's overrated as a ball handler and passer?
Of course I could. The taxes. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Seriously? That's what you post to try and counter my statement? Sure, stick Briscoe in a local rec league and he's very athletic but he isn't a good athlete using high level college standards and would be one of the worst athletes in the NBA, especially at guard. I'd be surprised if his true vertical is 32 inches or more. So I guess your definition of athletic is simply being able to dunk?
Something else you'll notice if you'll check your bias is Briscoe's lack of blow by speed causes him to palm the ball a pretty large amount. He hasn't done it near as much this year but he did it a lot last year and it was his go to move in high school. You can see it in the video you posted. Nearly every time he gets by someone or "shakes" them it's because he's palming the hell out of the ball. It's quick but it's just enough to give him the advantage.
Briscoe is a damn good athlete and the combine numbers show that. Best shuttle time on the team. Really really impressive for someone of his size.
I believe I'll wait for the actual NBA combine numbers on him...
Besides, what he does in a controlled setting is a lot different than what he can do during a game.
Besides, what he does in a controlled setting is a lot different than what he can do during a game.
I agree , I'm thinking MKG shot a better percentage despite the poor form . It's hard for me to compare anybody to MKG . He was my favorite player on the 2012 team and maybe my favorite of all time .
He's 6 foot 8 of course he's a good rebounder, especially in high school. I've watched a lot of video of him and like I've said he has decent handles and passing ability for someone that is his size but in no way is he a natural 3 on the offensive end. Not to mention his shooting is horrific.
The emphasis there was on "starting the break" rather than grabbing the rebound.
So because he can start a break that makes him a good passer and should play the 3? Ok.
Starting the break points to ball handling.
I'm basing the "he's a good passer" on what I've read from scouts.
That's why I asked you if you've seen something different. Sorry I've touched a nerve.