It’s time for a change.

RunninRichie

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You guys realize that no proven coach is going to want to come here if we run Cal off after all the winning he has done. People already look at UK fans as a fanbase that cannot be pleased unless you are in the final four every single year. Regardless if true or not that's the perception.
the old "no coach will ever come here because we ran cal off" yeah no coach will come to the school with the best support, fanbase and facilites in the sport. Or the fact we have won a title with 5 coaches. user checks out.
 

ULISwuzPointGod

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Well that’s true. But I think his buyout is huge. I could be wrong. No way Barnhart makes a move imo.
Mitch won't this year. Maybe not next year. But UK fb fans got rid of Joker cuz the stands were empty. Rupp may never be empty but it can be sparsely filled. And believe me, UK starts losing that kind of money and his buyout looks a lot less impossible. And there are boosters to think about as well. If you're a rich UK alum, are you gonna continue to give your money to a **** show? The Lord giveth and the lord taketh away and in this instance the lord is the fans/consumers
 

irishcat1965

Heisman
Apr 22, 2012
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Mitch won't this year. Maybe not next year. But UK fb fans got rid of Joker cuz the stands were empty. Rupp may never be empty but it can be sparsely filled. And believe me, UK starts losing that kind of money and his buyout looks a lot less impossible. And there are boosters to think about as well. If you're a rich UK alum, are you gonna continue to give your money to a **** show? The Lord giveth and the lord taketh away and in this instance the lord is the fans/fonsu
Well if we are talking about a couple years down the road, that’s different. I’m not quite sure Cal will want to be here by then anyway. His ego needs to be fed and it appears that time has ended at UK.
 

ULISwuzPointGod

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Well if we are talking about a couple years down the road, that’s different. I’m not quite sure Cal will want to be here by then anyway. His ego needs to be fed and it appears that time has ended at UK.
I'm saying this yr cuz apparently everyone thinks he can't be fired after "one bad season". So ok, that goes into 2022. Have a rinse and repeat of this yr next yr and the fans that are still on his side will bail, and then the seats are empty. If we r being honest, attendance was down n Rupp before covid. Fan apathy has set in and it won't take much more to push it over the edge.
 

irishcat1965

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I'm saying this yr cuz apparently everyone thinks he can't be fired after "one bad season". So ok, that goes into 2022. Have a rinse and repeat of this yr next yr and the fans that are still on his side will bail, and then the seats are empty. If we r being honest, attendance was down n Rupp before covid. Fan apathy has set in and it won't take much more to push it over the edge.
Fan apathy has set in. No doubt.
 

Ky_Bred_Cat

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He's got a good gig here but I get the impression his heart isn't into being here in ole KY anymore. That he's going through the motions and telling everyone what they want to hear - his talking points and comments don't feel right. He's always been a salesman but it's starting to feel like he's forcing it.
 

Lead_Belly

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If your standard for working here, much less being considered, is multiple F4s and a title, then be prepared to be disappointed with the next hire. Having been to the final 4 and having positive momentum is the realistic standard.

Again, Beard and Drew are the top of the realistic candidates but that next tier of guys to watch and see if the develop or turn into Mike White, he’s firmly there.

If this is the list if top guys we can get, we can no longer claim to be anything other than an average program. Because that is exactly what those coaches are. And that's being generous.

Wright, Few, Bennett, Pearl, Donovan should all be among the first calls.
 
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irishcat1965

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In this day and age, that's a very dangerous thing for Ppl that depend on fan interest to keep things afloat. So now tell me how much he can cost UK before letting him go seems like the better move?
I don’t have that answer. And the makeup of the roster for next year won’t be known until the summer. I do think this year is getting to the point where it is hole too deep to crawl out of. And to continue to lose home games pours fuel on the fire.
 
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e56

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Calipari is done here. Let’s just be honest about it. Make the difficult decision to ask him to pursue other opportunities or risk a few more seasons of mediocrity until we turn into UConn.

I’m done with this chapter. It was awesome. But it’s over. Watching Alabama’s walk-ons celebrate on the floor at Rupp as UK loses by 20 to an unranked opponent after embarrassing losses to Georgia Tech and Richmond?

Let’s move on.
yeah, like that's gonna happen
 

ULISwuzPointGod

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I don’t have that answer. And the makeup of the roster for next year won’t be known until the summer. I do think this year is getting to the point where it is hole too deep to crawl out of. And to continue to lose home games pours fuel on the fire.
Yep. Same thing I've been saying.
 

Rick Honcho

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Apr 19, 2011
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Who. Are. We. Hiring?

Nobody, because the ludicrous buy-out is too hefty. But if by some miracle UK could go out on the market for a new coach to put out this dumpster fire and resurrect the heritage and tradition of UK basketball, here are three realistic candidates:

Travis Ford - He's not one to be overwhelmed by the job - Kentucky basketball courses through his veins.
Chris Beard - Duh? He's what Clyde Gillespie was supposed to be.
Brad Underwood - Success has followed him everywhere because he makes it follow him.

Please. stop. posing. stupid. questions.

God bless America!
 

ULISwuzPointGod

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As best as it can be after that **** sandwich of 2020. Which probably makes this entire UK basketball abortion even worse. It was an escape I was looking forward to and clearly it hasn’t panned out.
Yea I think the majority of the fan base feels that way. Like we had ONE thing to help get us thru it and it 2020d all over itself lol
 
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Catswin9

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Calipari is done here. Let’s just be honest about it. Make the difficult decision to ask him to pursue other opportunities or risk a few more seasons of mediocrity until we turn into UConn.

I’m done with this chapter. It was awesome. But it’s over. Watching Alabama’s walk-ons celebrate on the floor at Rupp as UK loses by 20 to an unranked opponent after embarrassing losses to Georgia Tech and Richmond?

Let’s move on.
I agree. If Cal does not leave after this season, it's not going to end well for him.
 

sam_o

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He should have a year or so to right the ship but, if we lose 2 or 3 early next year he should just step down.
Oh he is definitely getting the chance to fix this and he should. He has earned that. But things go sour fast at UK losing is not an option
 
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Cal-4-Three

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the old "no coach will ever come here because we ran cal off" yeah no coach will come to the school with the best support, fanbase and facilites in the sport. Or the fact we have won a title with 5 coaches. user checks out.

Keep pushing Cal out the door and you will find out the hard way. You may get a young up and comer but no established coach out there will A) want to follow Calipari with close to a 80% win perecentage here and B) consistently lands the #1 class while UK fans chastise him if he gets the #2 instead of #1. Nothing is ever enough for UK fans and that's the reason many coaches turned us down when we hired BCG. User checks out.
 

RunninRichie

Heisman
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Keep pushing Cal out the door and you will find out the hard way. You may get a young up and comer but no established coach out there will A) want to follow Calipari with close to a 80% win perecentage here and B) consistently lands the #1 class while UK fans chastise him if he gets the #2 instead of #1. Nothing is ever enough for UK fans and that's the reason many coaches turned us down when we hired BCG. User checks out.
ahahhahahahahaahha....did you really use recruiting class rankings as your argument? every coach UK has hired has been an up and comer (including cal) and yes, even Rupp. Nobody will want to follow modern day Joe Hall?
hall
3 final fours
1 nit title
1 title
1 runner up
cal
4 final fours
1 title
1 runner up
1 nit
We managed to get coaches to "follow" other title winning coaches (4 times actually). Including a 4 time champion. Save me the Cal slobber. Just admit you dont want to move on from cal because you are scared of hiring someone else, you sound like an IU fan in the 90s with Knight.
 

Cal-4-Three

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ahahhahahahahaahha....did you really use recruiting class rankings as your argument? every coach UK has hired has been an up and comer (including cal) and yes, even Rupp. Nobody will want to follow modern day Joe Hall?
hall
3 final fours
1 nit title
1 title
1 runner up
cal
4 final fours
1 title
1 runner up
1 nit
We managed to get coaches to "follow" other title winning coaches (4 times actually). Including a 4 time champion. Save me the Cal slobber. Just admit you dont want to move on from cal because you are scared of hiring someone else, you sound like an IU fan in the 90s with Knight.

Who you gonna go get there smartass? Please enlighten me.

With that said, Cal isn't going anywhere and you are just going to have to live with it little buddy. Sorry if that gets your panties in a wad, it is what it is. Enjoy the show kid. ahahahahahahahahahahahahah
 
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It's time Cal moved on, and I think he sees that himself. He just has "that look", the one that says "OK, It's been over 10 years here, and it's worn me down."

Between the virus, his 5 stars playing like 2 stars, and the backlash he's getting over his politics, has finally gotten him to this point. I don't think he gives two chits what we think of his politics, but I do believe he felt he was above reproach, and was therefore a little shocked with the blow back.

Now he's being unmasked as a very, very average bench coach, and us peasants are unhappy with his results. I think he's gone, on his own, after this season. I think it would be best for both parties.
 

RunninRichie

Heisman
Sep 5, 2019
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Who you gonna go get there smartass? Please enlighten me.

With that said, Cal isn't going anywhere and you are just going to have to live with it little buddy. Sorry if that gets your panties in a wad, it is what it is. Enjoy the show kid. ahahahahahahahahahahahahah
fantastic post! “Who yew gonn git?”

Nate Oats
Chris Beard
Tony Bennett
Brad Stevens
Eric Mussleman
 

Redraider559

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Dec 14, 2020
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fantastic post! “Who yew gonn git?”

Nate Oats
Chris Beard
Tony Bennett
Brad Stevens
Eric Mussleman
Brad stevens is not coming here. Period. What results should we expect these coaches to achieve? Final four every other year? How long do they get to win a championship? I’m not just being a smarta** either, really want to know your answer
 

RunninRichie

Heisman
Sep 5, 2019
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Brad stevens is not coming here. Period. What results should we expect these coaches to achieve? Final four every other year? How long do they get to win a championship? I’m not just being a smarta** either, really want to know your answer
you don’t know if Stevens will come here or not. Pitino came from the knicks to coach a UK program on probation. Plus, Cal makes wayyyyy more than Stevens.
1.stop being a NBA halfway house
2.build teams the traditional way with seniors and juniors and a few 5 stars sprinkled in
3.install a modern offense emphasizing spreading the floor and 3 point shooting. (aka modern basketball)
there’s more but those are the main expectations for me.
 

Redraider559

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you don’t know if Stevens will come here or not. Pitino came from the knicks to coach a UK program on probation. Plus, Cal makes wayyyyy more than Stevens.
1.stop being a NBA halfway house
2.build teams the traditional way with seniors and juniors and a few 5 stars sprinkled in
3.install a modern offense emphasizing spreading the floor and 3 point shooting. (aka modern basketball)
there’s more but those are the main expectations for me.
Pitino left because he didn’t get along with the gm. By all accounts brad stevens has great relations with the Boston front office.
 

SmedMoley

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the old "no coach will ever come here because we ran cal off" yeah no coach will come to the school with the best support, fanbase and facilites in the sport. Or the fact we have won a title with 5 coaches. user checks out.
If I'm a guy like Beard or another coach on the cusp; I know if I come to UK and fully use those resources I'll probably win a title or two. Stay a few years and maybe move on if the job starts wearing on me. I'd not be intimidated or scared of the opportunity. You take that challenge. The idea that we couldn't get another coach is silly. We'd have to suspend basketball operations, I guess 🙄
 
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