It’s time for a change.

Yardeth

Heisman
Jan 2, 2007
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Maybe most of the players return and we have a decent team coming back. We have to start from scratch and build a team. Hard to build a team every year with only 1-2 returners.
 
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HagginHall1999

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Oct 19, 2018
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It is not “after one bad season”

2011 sucked quite a bit most of the year
2013 was awful
2014 was a very poor UK year till March
2018 was very poor
2021 is a nightmare....so far

I am not disputing this year sucking so far but are we now throwing 2011, 2014 into the mix? Two of our best FF runs ever?

I would give 2013 and 2021 (thus far) 100%. Toss in 2018. I won't give 2016 because it wasn't that bad, more disappointing.
 

kyrx

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Everybody just CHILL.

We have the whole kitchen plus the sink comments here.
Cal sucks, he's done, he should be fired, the 2014 NCAA Runner-up year was awful, Gillispie and Tubby never had worse years, we should hire the Bama coach now.

Is this season done? Probably. But maybe not.

For every down year, we've had 10 good years. So keep the faith, if not now, then for future years.

Last thought: It's a Covid year. Do you think we'd be 4-7 if Rupp was packed as usual?
 
Oct 9, 2015
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Maybe most of the players return and we have a decent team coming back. We have to start from scratch and build a team. Hard to build a team every year with only 1-2 returners.

Im not even sure these players back next season will make them good enough to win?
 
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_ukcat

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May 22, 2002
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Didn't Cal say at some point 10 years is about the limit for Coaching at a School? It going on 12 now and it obvious he was right. UK needs to work out deal for him to move on With UKs brand, facilities and backing any coach that not a Drunk can win a National Championship here and play modern exciting basketball. We an NCAA school not an NBA G league developmental team
 

Lead_Belly

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Jan 9, 2021
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Then BBN will make it pure hell for him until he does.
I always love people who act like they have way more clout than they actually do. Other than posting **** on social media, there isn't much you can do in 2020. Sure, you can go protest outside his house, but the man is a multimillionaire. He can buy another home and live there while you are protesting at his house on Richmond Rd. You can opt to not buy tickets and attend the games or not watch on tv, but that won't even register as impactful on their radar.
 

bnewt

Heisman
May 29, 2001
9,014
11,274
113
Not talking about firing. Have “the talk” that most employers have where the employee finds another opportunity. NBA will give the guy $50 million and a private jet.

can we start a fund to help this process along...…….
worse than a high school team
 

Lead_Belly

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Jan 9, 2021
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That was Nate Oats job audition. He put on a clinic and it’s the style the fans have wanted since Ricky P left and it’s the style that fits the current NBA shift.

If he wasn’t already in Mitch’s top 5. He is now. He’s an elite 8/final 4 run in the next 3-5 years to being one of the first calls when cal leaves.
If beating UK once (particularly this team) is the new standard bearer for coaching at UK, we have really come down a few notches.
 

RoyKent

Heisman
Feb 3, 2015
23,072
33,527
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That was Nate Oats job audition. He put on a clinic and it’s the style the fans have wanted since Ricky P left and it’s the style that fits the current NBA shift.

If he wasn’t already in Mitch’s top 5. He is now. He’s an elite 8/final 4 run in the next 3-5 years to being one of the first calls when cal leaves.

FYI... Nate Oates is 47 years old and has won two (2) NCAA tournaments games in his career.

Now, he is all of a sudden a leading candidate and the top choice by man here to replace Cal?
 
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EliteBlue

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Mar 27, 2009
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If beating UK once in the new standard bearer for coaching at UK, we have really come down a few notches.
Where did I say he takes over next year. 3-5 years in a long time to add a few more accomplishments and bolster a resume. Fact is, he’s been an up and coming name w positive momentum since Buffalo. Again, if he takes Bama to an E8 or beyond in the next few years don’t be surprised if Mitch remembers this beat down and if he were to be hired I bet it would be mentioned in the press conference.

I also said I bet he’s on Mitch’s list now. Not that he is the primary candidate. But no, he won’t be considered without an E8 at least
 
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EliteBlue

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Mar 27, 2009
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FYI... Nate Oates is 47 years old and has one two (2) NCAA tournaments games in his career.

Now, he is all of a sudden a leading candidate and the top choice by man here to replace Cal?
He was also coaching high school basketball last decade and has rapidly climbed the ranks. Due to the rapid trajectory each of his stops have been successful rebuilds but gone just as soon as he got there. His trajectory is upwards. Nobody said he was the lead candidate or that it would be considered next year.

“On the list....3-5 years...needs an E8/f4 run”.

The leaders are still the obvious Beard, Drew, etc. but 5 years his name could be there and Mitch would cite remembering this game as a reason. That’s the definition of “Audition”
 
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uk78_rivals88018

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Getting rid of Cal now after we won the SEC last season and showed tremendous progress would not be a good look for Kentucky. He just got a huge transfer committment which I think would go away along with some of the 2021 recruits if he left.

Am I happy with how our team is this season? Of course not, I can't even stand to watch some of the entire games after we look so bad in the first half with a lack of in-game coaching that would seem obvious to instruct. I am tired of hearing him yell "Run" after a rebound when clearly this team is better off not running. I am also upset with the favoritism that seems evident and lack of fundamentals that some of our supposed top recruits have demonstrated.

For me what is needed is a good assistant coach who can teach fundamentals to this team. Plus it certainly appears that losing Kenny Payne had much more of an impact than what was realized. Fine to have some assistant recruiters but we need an in-game coach. Cal is the figure head and face of the program. But, similar to other elite teams it is often the assitants that are doing the grunt work.
 

Lead_Belly

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Jan 9, 2021
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Where did I say he takes over next year. 3-5 years in a long time to add a few more accomplishments and bolster a resume. Fact is, he’s been an up and coming name w positive momentum since Buffalo. Again, if he takes Bama to an E8 or beyond in the next few years don’t be surprised if Mitch remembers this beat down and if he were to be hired I bet it would be mentioned in the press conference.

I also said I bet he’s on Mitch’s list now. Not that he is the primary candidate. But no, he won’t be considered without an E8 at least
Lol, Good Lord you have low standards. His combined winning % is 66%. At Bama he is at 58%. Neither of those are good.

Last year they were 9th in the league and 16-15 overall. This year they are already 9-3. While they are doing much better in conference play, they also have a ways to go before they win it.

Oats would need at minimum a couple F4's and maybe even a title before he should be considered here. Many better options are out there.
 
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Cal-4-Three

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Apr 2, 2011
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At this point it would be a lot cheaper if UK hired someone to take care of the problem and have him sleeping with the fishes.

Don’t forget that wonderful 2016 season where we lost double digit games and got bounced out of the tournament right off the bat by Indiana.

Its truly amazing how much blind faith and money Cal has managed to con out of UK and a lot of fans just from a few tournament runs.

Honestly you should be banned for that first comment about having our coach killed. That's the dumbest most idiotic remark i think I have seen on a college basketball message board. You should be ashamed. Idiot.
 
Mar 23, 2012
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Not talking about firing. Have “the talk” that most employers have where the employee finds another opportunity. NBA will give the guy $50 million and a private jet.
Someone has to pay the buyout unless he is fired with cause. Either UK, Calipari, or whoever hires him is going to have to pay it. Terms of a contract aren’t just null and void because he leaves to coach elsewhere.
 

Cal-4-Three

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Apr 2, 2011
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You guys realize that no proven coach is going to want to come here if we run Cal off after all the winning he has done. People already look at UK fans as a fanbase that cannot be pleased unless you are in the final four every single year. Regardless if true or not that's the perception.
 
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Getting rid of Cal now after we won the SEC last season and showed tremendous progress would not be a good look for Kentucky. He just got a huge transfer committment which I think would go away along with some of the 2021 recruits if he left.

Am I happy with how our team is this season? Of course not, I can't even stand to watch some of the entire games after we look so bad in the first half with a lack of in-game coaching that would seem obvious to instruct. I am tired of hearing him yell "Run" after a rebound when clearly this team is better off not running. I am also upset with the favoritism that seems evident and lack of fundamentals that some of our supposed top recruits have demonstrated.

For me what is needed is a good assistant coach who can teach fundamentals to this team. Plus it certainly appears that losing Kenny Payne had much more of an impact than what was realized. Fine to have some assistant recruiters but we need an in-game coach. Cal is the figure head and face of the program. But, similar to other elite teams it is often the assitants that are doing the grunt work.
Problem is, by getting Oscar and Collins, it says he has no interest in running anything resembling a modern offense. He’s going to keep on playing two bigs who can’t consistently shoot well outside the paint.
 

EliteBlue

Heisman
Mar 27, 2009
16,751
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Lol, Good Lord you have low standards. His combined winning % is 66%. At Bama he is at 58%. Neither of those are good.

Last year they were 9th in the league and 16-15 overall. This year they are already 9-3. While they are doing much better in conference play, they also have a ways to go before they win it.

Oats would need at minimum a couple F4's and maybe even a title before he should be considered here. Many better options are out there.
His career winning % is actually solid in context. He’s rebuilt 2 programs and then left before sustaining the success.

He’s a system coach. He had to get the type of guys to run his system at Bama. We will see what he’s able to do over the next 3-5 years. Definition of a watch list.

If your standard for working here, much less being considered, is multiple F4s and a title, then be prepared to be disappointed with the next hire. Having been to the final 4 and having positive momentum is the realistic standard.

Again, Beard and Drew are the top of the realistic candidates but that next tier of guys to watch and see if the develop or turn into Mike White, he’s firmly there.
 
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wildcatdon

Heisman
Oct 17, 2012
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13,706
113
You guys realize that no proven coach is going to want to come here if we run Cal off after all the winning he has done. People already look at UK fans as a fanbase that cannot be pleased unless you are in the final four every single year. Regardless if true or not that's the perception.
I don’t thInk that any prospective coach is worried about message board fans. We can create a stir for sure, but we are a small minority and won’t change a coach’s beliefs in himself.
 
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ULISwuzPointGod

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Feb 15, 2018
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Everybody just CHILL.

We have the whole kitchen plus the sink comments here.
Cal sucks, he's done, he should be fired, the 2014 NCAA Runner-up year was awful, Gillispie and Tubby never had worse years, we should hire the Bama coach now.

Is this season done? Probably. But maybe not.

For every down year, we've had 10 good years. So keep the faith, if not now, then for future years.

Last thought: It's a Covid year. Do you think we'd be 4-7 if Rupp was packed as usual?
I think Cal is lucky that Rupp isn’t packed this year actually. The boos that Boston heard wouldn’t have **** on what Cal would get if we are being honest and he earned every single one of them and then some. Maybe 9 mil boos would move his thinking cuz 9 mil dollars sure as hell isn’t.
 

MakinMusic_rivals

All-Conference
Mar 21, 2006
10,725
3,613
66
Listen....Calipari isn’t stepping down and he’s not getting fired. He’s not walking away from the money due him and no one is going to pay the buyout. Regardless how you feel about Calipari, you might as well get on board and cheer he and the team on every chance get. Otherwise you will be miserable for the next 4 months.

The only thing you can control in the world are your own emotions and reactions to whatever stimulus flavor of the day presents itself.

GO BIG BLUE!
 

ULISwuzPointGod

All-Conference
Feb 15, 2018
965
1,334
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Well we can all wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which hand fills first. Cal isn’t going anywhere. We can just pray at this point he puts together a roster that wins. This roster isn’t it.
That’s not entirely true. Money talks and ******** walks. Let Rupp open to full capacity again and be half full cuz the fans aren’t there.....if that goes on through next year, let’s just see what UK does about it.....Cal isn’t greater than the almighty dollar.
 

irishcat1965

Heisman
Apr 22, 2012
21,753
46,871
113
That’s not entirely true. Money talks and ******** walks. Let Rupp open to full capacity again and be half full cuz the fans aren’t there.....if that goes on through next year, let’s just see what UK does about it.....Cal isn’t greater than the almighty dollar.
Well that’s true. But I think his buyout is huge. I could be wrong. No way Barnhart makes a move imo.
 
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