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MTTiger19

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Please use the search function and quote where yoshi said the above. I'll wait
If I can provide the quote I’m referring to related to him and his approval of hormone therapy for children, will you quit the board? I have no reason to invent that. I’m otr today but I will promise you I will find it. Especially if you agree to my proposal. You better double check with your buddy because he knows he said that.
 
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If I can provide the quote I’m referring to related to him and his approval of hormone therapy for children, will you quit the board? I have no reason to invent that. I’m otr today but I will promise you I will find it. Especially if you agree to my proposal. You better double check with your buddy because he knows he said that.
That's not what I bolded so let me make it easier for you. I want you to show me where he said the below:

"taking a child’s sexual organs and fooling around with them?"
 
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This is simple then. Denounce the party and leaders that support transitioning children and allowing men in women’s sports. Or is that just a necessary evil charged to tolerance. Simple resolution.
 

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This is simple then. Denounce the party and leaders that support transitioning children and allowing men in women’s sports. Or is that just a necessary evil charged to tolerance. Simple resolution.
This is not about a party unless you fault the party that believes doctors and professionals, along with the parents should be making these decisions, not Republican culture warriors, but even then, the majority of the party agrees that children shouldn't make decisions about modifying their body until they are 18. And we're talking about an infintesimally tiny part of the population that you spend so much of your time raging about.
 
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It's so incredibly frustrating to have to defend positions I've never espoused.

You sir are a liar. And when I get time I’m gonna post your lies right here. I know for a fact you posted that you support children being given hormone therapies. You literally asked me in one of your posts, if I took my 12 year old to the doctor and they told me they’d die without being transitioned would I do it. When I replied and said that was insane you vehemently disagreed. I can stomach some of the libs on here, but not you. You are what’s wrong with the country. Lying, misleading, gas lighting POS.

edit: ftr no one said anything about adults doing whatever they want. This has been and is about children. Why do you need drag time story hour if it’s just adults. Why do you need to be in schools and cartoons. Liars.

So show me where I ever said that?

I have said that it is very complex issue. I am in favor of counseling, and psychiatrists being involved in those cases. I do not support anything permanent or irreversible until they are an adult and of the age of consent. I also recognize that the main goal of a parent and the Doctor is to keep that person alive.

You attack me constantly and I have always treated you with respect. You are aggressive,belittling and frankly a jerk to people on here.

You have been wrong, and aggressively so on multiple issues and you refuse to just admit it and move on, instead you attack. 50% tax rate and Coke being tax exempt ring any bells?
 
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It's so incredibly frustrating to have to defend positions I've never espoused.



So show me where I ever said that?

I have said that it is very complex issue. I am in favor of counseling, and psychiatrists being involved in those cases. I do not support anything permanent or irreversible until they are an adult and of the age of consent. I also recognize that the main goal of a parent and the Doctor is to keep that person alive.

You attack me constantly and I have always treated you with respect. You are aggressive,belittling and frankly a jerk to people on here.

You have been wrong, and aggressively so on multiple issues and you refuse to just admit it and move on, instead you attack. 50% tax rate and Coke being tax exempt ring any bells?
Here we go again with the lies. So I’m a horrible terrible mean person because I misrepresented (I didn’t) what you’re claiming then you do it to me. Hahaha. And Coke is tax exempt for what I do. How are you going to tell me what I know about my job. You’re a contact lens fitter. If you believe what you say then you believe that harming children is evil. Yet you vote and support them whole heartedly. You talk out of both sides of your mouth constantly.
 
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MTTiger19

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This is not about a party unless you fault the party that believes doctors and professionals, along with the parents should be making these decisions, not Republican culture warriors, but even then, the majority of the party agrees that children shouldn't make decisions about modifying their body until they are 18. And we're talking about an infintesimally tiny part of the population that you spend so much of your time raging about.
How so? One party voted unanimously in favor of promoting all of this nonsense. The other didn’t. Not one person voted against it from the left. Zero. How’s that not about a party. Gaslight city with you all.
Btw they make up a larger part of the population than the concentration camp nazis you’re so concerned about.
 
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Here we go again with the lies. So I’m a horrible terrible mean person because I misrepresented what you’re claiming then you do it to me. Hahaha. And Coke is tax exempt for what I do. How are you going to tell me what I know about my job. You’re a contact lens fitter. If you believe what you say then you believe that harming children is evil. Yet you vote and support them whole heartedly. You talk out of both sides of your mouth constantly.

Show a single lie I've told. Show one.

Also, do.you truly not understand how sad it is that you think it's cool to make fun of someone else's career? Suffice it to say, I am substantially more than a lens fitter.
 
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How so? One party voted unanimously in favor of promoting all of this nonsense. The other didn’t. Not one person voted against it from the left. Zero. How’s that not about a party. Gaslight city with you all.
Btw they make up a larger part of the population than the concentration camp nazis you’re so concerned about.

Do you agree with every single thing Trump wants to do or has done?

Most of us don't agree with every issue on a single party, we vote for the candidate who most aligns with our values and beliefs. I am not a far Left voter, I'm very moderate fiscally and more liberal socially.
 

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Show a single lie I've told. Show one.

Also, do.you truly not understand how sad it is that you think it's cool to make fun of someone else's career? Suffice it to say, I am substantially more than a lens fitter.
Anyone spouting their moral superiority the way you do shouldn’t be surprised when people hit you back. Grow up.
 

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Do you agree with every single thing Trump wants to do or has done?

Most of us don't agree with every issue on a single party, we vote for the candidate who most aligns with our values and beliefs. I am not a far Left voter, I'm very moderate fiscally and more liberal socially.
Give me a specific example that’s comparable to mutilating children’s sexual organs and I’ll answer it. That’s a non-negotiable for me. Maybe you’re cool with people that think that’s acceptable. I’m not. It’s not like we are talking about something complicated like voter ID. These are children, these people want to send perverts into elementary schools dressed in drag to read to little innocent children. Wtf man. It’s sick and demented.
 

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Anyone spouting their moral superiority the way you do shouldn’t be surprised when people hit you back. Grow up.

Show one time I have posted about your family or career?

My moral superiority is due to you not being able to actually discuss issues and not liking the fact that I and others have called you out for it. You love to insult and attack every single time. It's just not necessary and doesn't help any of us have a real discussion.
There are multiple Conservatives on this board who I don't agree with, but have never had insults or attacks such as @scotchtiger. He adds a ton to this board by being open to real discussions and give and take. Maybe try being more like him and see how it goes for you.
 
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Give me a specific example that’s comparable to mutilating children’s sexual organs and I’ll answer it. That’s a non-negotiable for me. Maybe you’re cool with people that think that’s acceptable. I’m not. It’s not like we are talking about something complicated like voter ID. These are children, these people want to send perverts into elementary schools dressed in drag to read to little innocent children. Wtf man. It’s sick and demented.

And I've never supported sex change operations for children. Never one time. Why do you keep claiming that I believe or support that?
 
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And I've never supported sex change operations for children. Never one time. Why do you keep claiming that I believe or support that?
YOU may not support it but your votes do. I would never vote D based on this position alone. They fully support it and you support them. That’s my point. That’s a non-negotiable for me. Tell me a non-negotiable from the Trump admin or the right please.
 

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YOU may not support it but your votes do. I would never vote D based on this position alone. They fully support it and you support them. That’s my point. That’s a non-negotiable for me. Tell me a non-negotiable from the Trump admin or the right please.
Anyone who dismissed this and still thought he was fit to be president.

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Anyone who dismissed this and still thought he was fit to be president.

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That’s fine. I understand if that’s how you feel. One thing I should note. I don’t hate you or anyone else here as a person. If I were to meet you at Clemson we’d get along no problem. I’m very polite and cordial. It’s the ideas I get really angry at. I don’t know any of you libs personally, so it’s not personal. I’m not mad or upset with any one individual and I know we all have our own views, I just have a major issue with some staples of the liberal diet. That’s it. As far as **** talking your job or saying other stuff, it’s just a joke. Like I said I don’t know you. You may have a perfect 10 wife, an 8 figure bank account and a 9 incher man. It’s just smack talk. But I do have strong opinions on trans, DEI, war, crime, etc….
 

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That’s fine. I understand if that’s how you feel. One thing I should note. I don’t hate you or anyone else here as a person. If I were to meet you at Clemson we’d get along no problem. I’m very polite and cordial. It’s the ideas I get really angry at. I don’t know any of you libs personally, so it’s not personal. I’m not mad or upset with any one individual and I know we all have our own views, I just have a major issue with some staples of the liberal diet. That’s it. As far as **** talking your job or saying other stuff, it’s just a joke. Like I said I don’t know you. You may have a perfect 10 wife, an 8 figure bank account and a 9 incher man. It’s just smack talk. But I do have strong opinions on trans, DEI, war, crime, etc….

And I'm fine with heated discussions about any of those issues, but when you start to attack my job,my wife,my faith etc you lose any sort of moral high ground or respect that I can give to you.

Also, maybe don't be so personally angry about those issues that probably don't even effect you. Most of us agree on 80-85% of issues, we may have some differences of how we want to get there, but we all want our country to be the best it can be.
 
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And I'm fine with heated discussions about any of those issues, but when you start to attack my job,my wife,my faith etc you lose any sort of moral high ground or respect that I can give to you.

Also, maybe don't be so personally angry about those issues that probably don't even effect you. Most of us agree on 80-85% of issues, we may have some differences of how we want to get there, but we all want our country to be the best it can be.


Also, 9 inches is tiny. Might be why my wife rocks and loves me and yours doesn't ...



That's truly a joke lol.
 
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None of that is the discussion or applicable.

You said that Islam should be outlawed in America. Sharia law is not the only form of Islam.

Just like Christianity, and Judaism, there are lots of styles and disciplines. There are more and less conservative and militaristic forms of each of those religions.

You need to educate yourself on a religion before you call for something so illegal and anti American.
Once again......I am not advocating for outlawing Islam in America. I see what happens all over the world though and the US cannot allow any implementation of sharia law or allow Muslims to get away with crimes due to some asinine interpretation of their religion. Have you totally ignored what is occurring in Europe?
 

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YOU may not support it but your votes do. I would never vote D based on this position alone. They fully support it and you support them. That’s my point. That’s a non-negotiable for me. Tell me a non-negotiable from the Trump admin or the right please.
TRUTH!!! LINE IN THE SAND!!!
 
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Once again......I am not advocating for outlawing Islam in America. I see what happens all over the world though and the US cannot allow any implementation of sharia law or allow Muslims to get away with crimes due to some asinine interpretation of their religion. Have you totally ignored what is occurring in Europe?

You literally posted, in this thread that we should outlaw Islam in America. You said that.
 
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TRUTH!!! LINE IN THE SAND!!!
There are certain things I’m not going to participate in. Trans craziness, DEI, open borders to name three. Doesn’t mean others can’t, be my guest. But if a politician supports any of those in any way I will not vote for them. Period. Those three things have done exponentially more harm than good imho. Men shouldn’t be in women’s sports or spaces. People shouldn’t get preferential treatment for skin color. Laws to enter our country should be followed. That’s as common sense as I can get. It baffles me to see people say, they agree with those positions, even just one of them, then vote D.
 

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The Uk has fallen.

You're not voting your way out of this. Y'all better figure out a way to remove those in power hell bent on destroying your country.

This can happen to America. It's already happening in Michigan. Deport all invaders and ban Islam from the USA.

This is my opinion only.


Ban Islam for the USA ...

@TigerGrowls
 

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There are certain things I’m not going to participate in. Trans craziness, DEI, open borders to name three. Doesn’t mean others can’t, be my guest. But if a politician supports any of those in any way I will not vote for them. Period. Those three things have done exponentially more harm than good imho. Men shouldn’t be in women’s sports or spaces. People shouldn’t get preferential treatment for skin color. Laws to enter our country should be followed. That’s as common sense as I can get. It baffles me to see people say, they agree with those positions, even just one of them, then vote D.
It's just bizarre to me as a liberal to see the maga obsession with trans, such a tiny portion of the population. If you were to spend time with me and my family and friends, you would never hear us talking about that issue - ever, yet you constantly harp on Dems and trans craziness, trans support, yada, yada, yada, like we sit around and have genital chopping parties all day - it's just dumb.

It's as simple as this - most of us liberals are "live and let live types" and we don't want the government to have any control over our bodies or our lifestyles or anyone else's - including yours. I don't want the government legislating whether you can get a Trump tattoo, liposuction or a penis extension if you want one, because you are the only one who knows what makes you happy and I nor any governmental body should interfere with that. I also believe that the majority of trans truly feel like they are trapped in the wrong body and would be miserable for life if they weren't allowed to do what only they know would make them happy.

I've told this story before but we had a national company meeting a few years back and I was sitting at a table with a guy I had known only through Zoom and he was probably the happiest and funniest person I've ever met - he kept us in stitches all night long. He had a full beard and never demanded we call him by any pronoun but it was obvious that he was a he. Only later did someone tell me he was trans but I would have never known otherwise as he had a full beard and presented as a man in every way. He was one of the best human beings I've ever met and he harmed no one. I'm confident that the majority are the same way so who am I to hate them or treat them harshly or vote Pub because of the "trans issue" when his being trans was simply innocuous to me. It didn't affect my life at all.

It's just ridiculous to me to see the amount of emotional capitol you spend harping on that issue when they're just human beings who want to be happy and not be threatened by you or the angry political movement you support.

So be baffled all you want but that's your problem, not mine.
 

TigerGrowls

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you shared it and you doubled down. At least admit that you shouldn't have shared something that suggested outlawing an entire religion.
No. I wanted to share it even though I do not agree with banning islam in the US.
 

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It's just bizarre to me as a liberal to see the maga obsession with trans, such a tiny portion of the population. If you were to spend time with me and my family and friends, you would never hear us talking about that issue - ever, yet you constantly harp on Dems and trans craziness, trans support, yada, yada, yada, like we sit around and have genital chopping parties all day - it's just dumb.

It's as simple as this - most of us liberals are "live and let live types" and we don't want the government to have any control over our bodies or our lifestyles or anyone else's - including yours. I don't want the government legislating whether you can get a Trump tattoo, liposuction or a penis extension if you want one, because you are the only one who knows what makes you happy and I nor any governmental body should interfere with that. I also believe that the majority of trans truly feel like they are trapped in the wrong body and would be miserable for life if they weren't allowed to do what only they know would make them happy.

I've told this story before but we had a national company meeting a few years back and I was sitting at a table with a guy I had known only through Zoom and he was probably the happiest and funniest person I've ever met - he kept us in stitches all night long. He had a full beard and never demanded we call him by any pronoun but it was obvious that he was a he. Only later did someone tell me he was trans but I would have never known otherwise as he had a full beard and presented as a man in every way. He was one of the best human beings I've ever met and he harmed no one. I'm confident that the majority are the same way so who am I to hate them or treat them harshly or vote Pub because of the "trans issue" when his being trans was simply innocuous to me. It didn't affect my life at all.

It's just ridiculous to me to see the amount of emotional capitol you spend harping on that issue when they're just human beings who want to be happy and not be threatened by you or the angry political movement you support.

So be baffled all you want but that's your problem, not mine.
I stopped reading this after your very first paragraph. Literally just shut it down after:

It's as simple as this - most of us liberals are "live and let live types" and we don't want the government to have any control over our bodies or our lifestyles or anyone else's - including yours.

What a load of absolute horsesh-t. During Covid, less than 4 years ago, not one aspect of that sentence you posted is true. That’s as big a lie as there is to be told. Unreal you’d post that thinking that would pass the smell test. Secondly, I don’t talk about it with my family, idc at all. What I do care about is the insistence that these men be allowed in women’s spaces and sports, that’s unacceptable. I don’t care about some psychotic persons happiness, what about the women’s happiness they’re imposing on? I don’t want them reading to kids in school anymore than I want a prostitute to read to them. It’s inappropriate, there’s absolutely no place for sexualization of children in school. You guys always make this about hating people, it’s not. I guarantee you if there was a group of crusaders wanting to read stories to children about how Christian’s need to be treated and understood you’d freak out. But because it aligns with your ideology it’s ok to impose on the people. It’s been rejected full stock, you need to accept the fact that normal people aren’t going on with that. Also as more is learned it’s becoming incredibly evident that the trans community is very violent. Extremely violent. Because it is in fact a mental illness. Libs are making this worse, they’re basically telling the schizophrenic that all those personalities are real and valid and should be acted upon. It’s madness.
 

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It's so incredibly frustrating to have to defend positions I've never espoused.



So show me where I ever said that?

I have said that it is very complex issue. I am in favor of counseling, and psychiatrists being involved in those cases. I do not support anything permanent or irreversible until they are an adult and of the age of consent. I also recognize that the main goal of a parent and the Doctor is to keep that person alive.

You attack me constantly and I have always treated you with respect. You are aggressive,belittling and frankly a jerk to people on here.

You have been wrong, and aggressively so on multiple issues and you refuse to just admit it and move on, instead you attack. 50% tax rate and Coke being tax exempt ring any bells?
I have a slight issue here specifically with your response and wanted to put it out there. One thing that seems to be missing from your responses to this situation glaring. You claim it’s complicated, difficult and you’d need guidance. You’ve asked me if I wouldn’t listen to the doctors and psychiatrists, of which there is no definitive evidence that this stuff isn’t mental illness. But you also claim to be a Christian. You’ve told us over and over you’re a Christian. However something as impactful and life altering as your child wanting to transition sexes and there’s absolutely ZERO mention of getting spiritual guidance, going to discuss this with pastors, seeking Christian guidance, not one shred of that. Christian’s I know are leaning on their faith in times like that, odd how as a Christian you just left God out of a pivotal, potentially life altering decision. It tells me more than you’ll know about you personally. Not an attack either, simply an observation. Just thought it was noteworthy that you’d put the child that God blessed you with in the hands of psychiatrists yet avoid or at least fail to mention how important your relationship with God is. For someone that is constantly reminding everyone of their faith it seems like a huge oversight. Why wouldn’t that factor into your decision?
 

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It's just bizarre to me as a liberal to see the maga obsession with trans, such a tiny portion of the population. If you were to spend time with me and my family and friends, you would never hear us talking about that issue - ever, yet you constantly harp on Dems and trans craziness, trans support, yada, yada, yada, like we sit around and have genital chopping parties all day - it's just dumb.

It's as simple as this - most of us liberals are "live and let live types" and we don't want the government to have any control over our bodies or our lifestyles or anyone else's - including yours. I don't want the government legislating whether you can get a Trump tattoo, liposuction or a penis extension if you want one, because you are the only one who knows what makes you happy and I nor any governmental body should interfere with that. I also believe that the majority of trans truly feel like they are trapped in the wrong body and would be miserable for life if they weren't allowed to do what only they know would make them happy.

I've told this story before but we had a national company meeting a few years back and I was sitting at a table with a guy I had known only through Zoom and he was probably the happiest and funniest person I've ever met - he kept us in stitches all night long. He had a full beard and never demanded we call him by any pronoun but it was obvious that he was a he. Only later did someone tell me he was trans but I would have never known otherwise as he had a full beard and presented as a man in every way. He was one of the best human beings I've ever met and he harmed no one. I'm confident that the majority are the same way so who am I to hate them or treat them harshly or vote Pub because of the "trans issue" when his being trans was simply innocuous to me. It didn't affect my life at all.

It's just ridiculous to me to see the amount of emotional capitol you spend harping on that issue when they're just human beings who want to be happy and not be threatened by you or the angry political movement you support.

So be baffled all you want but that's your problem, not mine.
Ahhh. The old “live and let live” crowd that wants to lock you up for not taking their experimental shot. How soon we forget. The memory of a goldfish.
 

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Ahhh. The old “live and let live” crowd that wants to lock you up for not taking their experimental shot. How soon we forget. The memory of a goldfish.

Some more of the good, wholesome live and let live crowd. This is a video of tranny supporters protesting near the school a tranny just shot up and murdered some children. What could they possibly be protesting? I guess we are supposed to just sit on our hands while they violently attack us, live and let live.
 

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I have a slight issue here specifically with your response and wanted to put it out there. One thing that seems to be missing from your responses to this situation glaring. You claim it’s complicated, difficult and you’d need guidance. You’ve asked me if I wouldn’t listen to the doctors and psychiatrists, of which there is no definitive evidence that this stuff isn’t mental illness. But you also claim to be a Christian. You’ve told us over and over you’re a Christian. However something as impactful and life altering as your child wanting to transition sexes and there’s absolutely ZERO mention of getting spiritual guidance, going to discuss this with pastors, seeking Christian guidance, not one shred of that. Christian’s I know are leaning on their faith in times like that, odd how as a Christian you just left God out of a pivotal, potentially life altering decision. It tells me more than you’ll know about you personally. Not an attack either, simply an observation. Just thought it was noteworthy that you’d put the child that God blessed you with in the hands of psychiatrists yet avoid or at least fail to mention how important your relationship with God is. For someone that is constantly reminding everyone of their faith it seems like a huge oversight. Why wouldn’t that factor into your decision?

I will admit that I have issues with Christian Counseling since most are not licensed or have any expertise in actual Mental Health issues.

I assume that a child raised in a Christian Home has had Christian support,guidance, and teachings all of their lives.

I also recognize that many denominations are extremely anti-gay and have supported conversion therapy, which is extremely dangerous and has lead to many suicides.

Again, as in any issues where mental health is at stake, I prefer someone who is trained,licensed, and has some oversight into their behavior and teachings.

I had a professor in college who was a psychiatrist as well as a pastoral counselor. That's ideal to me, but extremely rare.
 

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I will admit that I have issues with Christian Counseling since most are not licensed or have any expertise in actual Mental Health issues.

I assume that a child raised in a Christian Home has had Christian support,guidance, and teachings all of their lives.

I also recognize that many denominations are extremely anti-gay and have supported conversion therapy, which is extremely dangerous and has lead to many suicides.

Again, as in any issues where mental health is at stake, I prefer someone who is trained,licensed, and has some oversight into their behavior and teachings.

I had a professor in college who was a psychiatrist as well as a pastoral counselor. That's ideal to me, but extremely rare.
We aren’t talking about generalizations. We are talking about YOUR child. You’re being obtuse. Christian counselors by and large are counseling based on biblical principles, scripture and the spiritual understanding that God is there, in control. You are not saying that at all. You’re saying that you don’t need God because his servants aren’t as smart as psychiatrists. That’s not a Christian position at all. I just think it’s worth noting because you claim to be a Christian, as you asked so eloquently yesterday, what kind of Christian are you? The lib kind that thinks they’re smarter than God or the real kind that puts their faith in Him?

Furthermore, what Christian believes God put a man in a woman’s body or vice versa. God is infallible yet you claim he made a mistake and needs a psychiatrist to solve it. Again, what kind of Christian are you?
 
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We aren’t talking about generalizations. We are talking about YOUR child. You’re being obtuse. Christian counselors by and large are counseling based on biblical principles, scripture and the spiritual understanding that God is there, in control. You are not saying that at all. You’re saying that you don’t need God because his servants aren’t as smart as psychiatrists. That’s not a Christian position at all. I just think it’s worth noting because you claim to be a Christian, as you asked so eloquently yesterday, what kind of Christian are you? The lib kind that thinks they’re smarter than God or the real kind that puts their faith in Him?

Furthermore, what Christian believes God put a man in a woman’s body or vice versa. God is infallible yet you claim he made a mistake and needs a psychiatrist to solve it. Again, what kind of Christian are you?

Show me the scripture where Jesus discussed sexuality.
 

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I stopped reading this after your very first paragraph. Literally just shut it down after:

It's as simple as this - most of us liberals are "live and let live types" and we don't want the government to have any control over our bodies or our lifestyles or anyone else's - including yours.

What a load of absolute horsesh-t. During Covid, less than 4 years ago, not one aspect of that sentence you posted is true. That’s as big a lie as there is to be told. Unreal you’d post that thinking that would pass the smell test. Secondly, I don’t talk about it with my family, idc at all. What I do care about is the insistence that these men be allowed in women’s spaces and sports, that’s unacceptable. I don’t care about some psychotic persons happiness, what about the women’s happiness they’re imposing on? I don’t want them reading to kids in school anymore than I want a prostitute to read to them. It’s inappropriate, there’s absolutely no place for sexualization of children in school. You guys always make this about hating people, it’s not. I guarantee you if there was a group of crusaders wanting to read stories to children about how Christian’s need to be treated and understood you’d freak out. But because it aligns with your ideology it’s ok to impose on the people. It’s been rejected full stock, you need to accept the fact that normal people aren’t going on with that. Also as more is learned it’s becoming incredibly evident that the trans community is very violent. Extremely violent. Because it is in fact a mental illness. Libs are making this worse, they’re basically telling the schizophrenic that all those personalities are real and valid and should be acted upon. It’s madness.
It's funny how I knew your immediate response would be to compare public health initiatives with an adult's right to modify their body in a way that makes them happiest, which does you no harm.

When it comes to public health, what you or I do can make a difference to the whole so that's a weak argument imo. Either you see the community as "we" or "I" and if you see it as "I" you are a threat to the rest of us and I really don't have sympathy for you.

Especially when it comes to the COVID vaccine because it would have caused you no harm and your resistance to it was purely political and you'll never convince me otherwise. If it wasn't, why are the vast majority of vax deniers all in the maga camp? It surely isn't because you're smarter than the rest of us, it's simply because you're mad that your candidate lost an election and that's a pathetic way to make a decision about your health. So if you felt imposed upon, it was by choice and you could have easily avoided that imposition with a five minute visit to the pharmacy.

So rage on with your LibsofTikTok inspired lunacy that I don't care to participate in, though I do enjoy watching you spin right off this planet.
 

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Show me the scripture where Jesus discussed sexuality.

I’ll do you one better:
    • In Matthew 18:6, Jesus states, "If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea”
 
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It's funny how I knew your immediate response would be to compare public health initiatives with an adult's right to modify their body in a way that makes them happiest, which does you no harm.

When it comes to public health, what you or I do can make a difference to the whole so that's a weak argument imo. Either you see the community as "we" or "I" and if you see it as "I" you are a threat to the rest of us and I really don't have sympathy for you.

Especially when it comes to the COVID vaccine because it would have caused you no harm and your resistance to it was purely political and you'll never convince me otherwise. If it wasn't, why are the vast majority of vax deniers all in the maga camp? It surely isn't because you're smarter than the rest of us, it's simply because you're mad that your candidate lost an election and that's a pathetic way to make a decision about your health. So if you felt imposed upon, it was by choice and you could have easily avoided that imposition with a five minute visit to the pharmacy.

So rage on with your LibsofTikTok inspired lunacy that I don't care to participate in, though I do enjoy watching you spin right off this planet.
If you’re so concerned about public health you should start getting trans people into psych wards. They’re murdering school kids.

You're dead wrong though. It’s about dumbasses like you thinking they know everything and can tell us how to live. That stupid vaccine you’re so proud of didn’t even work. Talk about purely political. Yall were ready to put parents in camps for not vaccinating and it’s a maga problem? You get boosted genius? Death to woke.
 
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