Is Mitch a vegetable?

TigerGrowls

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But then why not block the BBB and why not block some of his appointments?
A number of his appointments have been blocked and the senate runs pro forma sessions just so he cant do recess appointments. They had to pass a form of the BBB or the facade is destroyed. They took out some stuff though. The uniparty is real. Go and read the "Republican Congress" thread. Additionally the save act is favored by 80+ of voters so why would any real Republican vote against it?
 

TJ8869

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That wasn’t what our discussion was about. It was about whether she’s a pos for running out on a spouse on life support. That was it.
Except that it wasn’t ‘it’. TC Nole brought up the issue and I gave my opinion on that issue. What makes you the arbiter of what I’m allowed to reply to? Do you have any other rules that apply specifically to me that I should know about?
You then asked - oddly - whether I would or would not pass on tix to a FF with UNC involved to be with my dying wife. This would seem to indicate that you're defending Chao's choice to abandon her dying husband.
If the winking emoji didn’t make it obvious that the UNC/Duke comment was a sarcastic reply to your claim that you would never leave your wife’s deathbed under any circumstances then I don’t know what I can do to indicate sarcasm to you. Would flashing red font help? You tell me what would work best.
 
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tarheelbybirth1

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Except that it wasn’t ‘it’. TC Nole brought up the issue and I gave my opinion on that issue. What makes you the arbiter of what I’m allowed to reply to? Do you have any other rules that apply specifically to me that I should know about?
You replied to MY post where I don’t mention anything about whatever reasons she might have for abandoning him. You made me the arbiter. Here it is to jog your memory.

What I know with absolute certainty is that if my spouse was in the hospital on life support, I’d be right there by her bed holding her hand for the duration. There is nothing that would take precedence over that.
Not a single word about why Chou might have abandoned him. I didn't even mention that situation - I simply stated where I would be.

You, of course, had to respond.

Even if you had tickets to the 2022 Final Four? ;)

Not all marriages are created equal. My best guess is Chao’s trip was planned before Mitch’s medical emergency. If he is in fact brain dead then she probably decided there’s nothing she can do anyway. So she decided to go ahead with her trip knowing that he’s laying in a vegetative state with little or no hope of recovery and will still be laying in a vegetative state with little or no hope of recovery when she returns.
And here, you seem to suggest it's perfectly ok for her to abandon her critically ill and possibly dying husband. He's a veg, right? He'll be a veg when she gets back. No harm, no foul. Perfectly "normal". I responded:

I would pass on the FF knowing the Heels were guaranteed a win if my wife was lying in a hospital bed at the end of her life. It wouldn’t be a close call. Anyone who says otherwise might as well not bother being married.
So here we are...

If the winking emoji didn’t make it obvious that the UNC/Duke comment was a sarcastic reply to your claim that you would never leave your wife’s deathbed under any circumstances then I don’t know what I can do to indicate sarcasm to you. Would flashing red font help? You tell me what would work best.
I dismissed it out of hand. Should I have acknowledged that your scenario was sarcasm? Why? There's no rancor in my response. Go back and read it again. Feel free to post it in "flashing red font". My response would be exactly the same.


The other part of the discussion was this:

I’ve made it abundantly clear multiple times that my point has nothing to do with whether it was appropriate for her to go to China. My point has everything to do whether she did it for the purpose of keeping Mitch on life support.
I simply pointed out that wasn't whatever point you were trying to make when you responded to me given that I never opined on that issue.

I actually agree that she wouldn't have to flee the country to avoid "pulling the plug" but that's my first word on it. That you seemed to defend her choice to abandon her critically ill husband to travel to the other side of the world... that's what's troubling.

As I said, if that's what he means to her, they have no marriage... they have at best what was called a civil union back in the days before marriage equality. They have a contract with no deeper meaning attached - someone else called it "tranactional". That's why people fought so hard for gay marriage - it just means more.

People who are actually married - they don't take off on a trip while their spouse lies critically ill in the hospital unless there is an extreme circumstance. A previously scheduled business trip could never rise to that level for me. Perhaps for you it could but, like you said, "Not all marriages are created equal".

Feel free to accept this as the last word.
 

PW Herman

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At this point is there really even any benefit to holding a special election? They’re already having a regular election for a new senator who will be sworn in on January 3.

Even if they declared Mitch dead today, it takes a couple of months to hold an election. And the Senate is in recess for five weeks from early August to mid September. The earliest a replacement could be sworn in would be September 14.

At that point there is a two and a half week session before the Senate adjourns again for another month. Then it reconvenes for a week and a half before Thanksgiving, then three weeks before Christmas.

And that’s it. Kentucky would be spending millions of dollars for a temporary senator for roughly seven weeks that won’t shift the balance of power anyway.

I'm sure you were just as upset when they rammed Supreme Court Justices through as well.

Old "lEt THe peOPLe deCIDe" Teej. We used to call you that! Remember!?!
 
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A number of his appointments have been blocked and the senate runs pro forma sessions just so he cant do recess appointments. They had to pass a form of the BBB or the facade is destroyed. They took out some stuff though. The uniparty is real. Go and read the "Republican Congress" thread. Additionally the save act is favored by 80+ of voters so why would any real Republican vote against it?
One part of the SAVE Act is acceptable to the majority of voters, not the entire thing.
 

GesterHawk

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Wonder what percentage of your posts have Biden in them sometimes
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TJ8869

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And here, you seem to suggest it's perfectly ok for her to abandon her critically ill and possibly dying husband.
I never once said it was perfectly okay for her to leave. I very specifically stated in post #62 (the post immediately preceding your post #63) that I am not defending her decision to leave. You decided in your own head that I was defending her. You guys have a very long history of assigning viewpoints to me even after I repeatedly reject them.

I made it very clear that I was commenting only on whether or not she left specifically to avoid taking Mitch off life support, which leads us to this gem buried deep within your 12-paragraph response:

I actually agree that she wouldn't have to flee the country to avoid "pulling the plug"
All this bickering and it turns out you agreed with my point all along. It’s almost as if you guys argue with me just to argue with me.

 

TJ8869

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I'm sure you were just as upset when they rammed Supreme Court Justices through as well.

Old "lEt THe peOPLe deCIDe" Teej. We used to call you that! Remember!?!
Officially I must inform you that I have not yet received authorization from Lucas to discuss this new, tangential subject matter.

Unofficially I will tell you that if you had any clue at all what you’re talking about, you would know that I have always been critical of Mitch for the Garland saga. I stated numerous times that he should have at least given him hearings and a floor vote. And I was also critical of his hypocrisy in ramming the ACB nomination through at the last minute.
 

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First of all, are they sure it is Mitch and not little Joey that is lying there brain dead?
 

tarheelbybirth1

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I never once said it was perfectly okay for her to leave. I very specifically stated in post #62 (the post immediately preceding your post #63) that I am not defending her decision to leave. You decided in your own head that I was defending her. You guys have a very long history of assigning viewpoints to me even after I repeatedly reject them.
Who said this?

Not all marriages are created equal. My best guess is Chao’s trip was planned before Mitch’s medical emergency. If he is in fact brain dead then she probably decided there’s nothing she can do anyway. So she decided to go ahead with her trip knowing that he’s laying in a vegetative state with little or no hope of recovery and will still be laying in a vegetative state with little or no hope of recovery when she returns.

I made it very clear that I was commenting only on whether or not she left specifically to avoid taking Mitch off life support, which leads us to this gem buried deep within your 12-paragraph response:

All this bickering and it turns out you agreed with my point all along. It’s almost as if you guys argue with me just to argue with me.

I was never "bickering" about anything. I stated I would never leave my wife's bedside. Full Stop. YOU jumped in. With the comment above. Which seems to say it's ok for her to make that decision if their "marriage" is somehow different. You made the case for her leaving, not me. All you had to say was something along the lines of, "Yeah... I can't imagine anything that would take me away from my wife at a time like that". Instead, you made a comment that seemed to justify it - whether that's what you meant to do or not, you did it.

See that bolded statement above? You can copy that and paste it as a respone and we'll be done.

 

PW Herman

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Officially I must inform you that I have not yet received authorization from Lucas to discuss this new, tangential subject matter.

Unofficially I will tell you that if you had any clue at all what you’re talking about, you would know that I have always been critical of Mitch for the Garland saga. I stated numerous times that he should have at least given him hearings and a floor vote. And I was also critical of his hypocrisy in ramming the ACB nomination through at the last minute.

Oh yeah, I remember that classic 57 page TJ thread about how you didn't think the SC nomination was fair. No wait that was the thread about the lady who's dog was being threatened in Central Park.
 

hopefultiger13

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And he should of had some.
Nah. Honestly, I just threw that comment about speaking ill of the dead and the common decency out there as bait. These folks on here are who they are. Pointing it out doesn't mean a thing... and certainly won't change them. There's never been a shortage of folks like this, they were just ashamed to say it out loud. That's what really changed...
 

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Oh yeah, I remember that classic 57 page TJ thread about how you didn't think the SC nomination was fair. No wait that was the thread about the lady who's dog was being threatened in Central Park.
Lol. Your attempt at assigning me a viewpoint imploded. So rather than being an adult and saying something rational like “Good on you for criticizing Mitch’s hypocrisy,” you instead pivot to bringing up a completely unrelated subject from six years ago.

Are you getting clearance from Lucas to keep tossing out all these divergent topics? Or do you have implied consent by virtue of being one of his #teamblue buddies?
 

Moral

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Nah. Honestly, I just threw that comment about speaking ill of the dead and the common decency out there as bait. These folks on here are who they are. Pointing it out doesn't mean a thing... and certainly won't change them. There's never been a shortage of folks like this, they were just ashamed to say it out loud. That's what really changed...

All throughout history there is rejoicing when certain people die, and those dead people usually came about that honestly. McConnell earned it, better choices would have got different results. I am sure there was someone clutching their pearls in the crowd when Mussolini was upside down too.
 
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