The SAVE Act doesn't have the votes. Why bring it up for one?
Is Mitch a vegetable?
- Thread starter Huey Grey 2
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They can keep the body alive but not the brain.
They are fine with other cons acting like this, but even cons expect better from the libs.The party led by this guy, whom you voted for three times:
This whole damn thread is a testiment to how far this country has fallen...
I've never been a Mitch McConald fan, but the man is lying in a coma and by all accounts is about to die. It's my own belief that he'll be judged for the sum of his life's work and his beliefs (or lack thereof). I think we can all agree that regardless of what happens next he won't be here doing anything... good or bad. But according to my own personal beliefs, judging him is way above my pay grade.
The fact that people on both side of the aisle are essentially celebrating a fellow human's death is revolting.
I've never been a Mitch McConald fan, but the man is lying in a coma and by all accounts is about to die. It's my own belief that he'll be judged for the sum of his life's work and his beliefs (or lack thereof). I think we can all agree that regardless of what happens next he won't be here doing anything... good or bad. But according to my own personal beliefs, judging him is way above my pay grade.
The fact that people on both side of the aisle are essentially celebrating a fellow human's death is revolting.
Except I would never say such a thing. Trump would and you would.The party led by this guy, whom you voted for three times:
I think it’s entirely possible that Mitch is on life support and the family intends to keep him that way until after the deadline for a special election passes. But I’m not necessarily buying the theory that Elaine Chao traveled to China just so she wouldn’t be available to sign off on removing him from life support.
She could just as easily refuse to pull the plug while sitting next to his hospital bed. She didn’t have to fly to the other side of the world. I doubt very much that she decided “Oh, ****! I’d better get out of the country so they can’t pull the plug without my consent.”
Conversely, if the situation was reversed and Chao wanted to remove Mitch from life support but happened to be out of the country, I’m fairly certain she could find a way to make it happen through attorneys. Faxes are still considered legal documents and I’m pretty sure China has fax machines.
I think Chao’s trip was probably already scheduled and just happened to coincide with Mitch’s medical emergency. The idea that she intentionally fled the country for the purpose of prolonging Mitch’s vegetative existence doesn’t make sense, mostly because I don’t think it was necessary.
She could just as easily refuse to pull the plug while sitting next to his hospital bed. She didn’t have to fly to the other side of the world. I doubt very much that she decided “Oh, ****! I’d better get out of the country so they can’t pull the plug without my consent.”
Conversely, if the situation was reversed and Chao wanted to remove Mitch from life support but happened to be out of the country, I’m fairly certain she could find a way to make it happen through attorneys. Faxes are still considered legal documents and I’m pretty sure China has fax machines.
I think Chao’s trip was probably already scheduled and just happened to coincide with Mitch’s medical emergency. The idea that she intentionally fled the country for the purpose of prolonging Mitch’s vegetative existence doesn’t make sense, mostly because I don’t think it was necessary.
Normally I would agree with this but Mitch’s manipulation of the Supreme Court will negatively affect this country for generations.
F*ck that guy.
I am not one to wish ill or death on anyone as I do believe in some sort of karma.
That said, there are people who will die and I will not be sorry to see them go.
Mitch is one of those. Not because he is Republican, but because I do believe he has caused America irreparable harm. And he is most likely a foreign asset.
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I can get that. But, the measure of the man will be destroying norms and denying President Obama a SCOTUS nomination by creating a new rule, then violating that rule a few years later when it suited him. He cravenly stuffed the courts with Federalist nut jobs, he paved the way for Trump 2.0, and he ballooned the debt while mouthing words about fiscal discipline.
Not everyone deserves it. Trump and Mitch are at the top of that list.
You know a lot of people that would leave their spouses bedside during a medical event?
I don't.
There's something VERY sinister happening here.
Moscow Mitch is/was an evil piece of sh.it. He is the person most responsible - and there’s no real second place - for allowing the human sh.it stain to be reelected. I have no problem judging him in the reality where he lived his malevolent life. Sky daddy can have him when we’re done.
What’s most interesting here is you’re actively judging people for judging McConnell. That seems hypocritical. MM was revolting. His dismissal of Trump’s evil as a means to holding power deserves to be judged and condemned in the absolute harshest terms. I might not celebrate his death but I sure as hell won’t shed a single tear.
I’m not saying I support her decision to go to China. I’m saying that I doubt she did it for the purpose of keeping Mitch on life support. And the reason I doubt that is because I don’t think it would be necessary to leave the country to avoid disconnecting his life support.
Think whatever you want about whether her trip is appropriate. I’m simply saying I don’t think it’s political.
What I know with absolute certainty is that if my spouse was in the hospital on life support I’d be right there by her bed holding her hand for the duration. There is nothing that would take precedence over that.
You may never say such a thing, but you voted three times for someone who does say such things regularly. I didn't vote for the grave dancers in this thread to be president.
For the record: McConnell can rot in hell.
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So it’s your contention that in order for Chao to keep Mitch on life support it was necessary that she leave the country?
You don’t have to e naive to think she could accomplish that while sitting right next to his hospital bed. You just have to have common sense.
Necessary, no.
More convenient? Maybe.
Maybe they knew from the get go that Mitch was gone and that is why she felt ok to leave the country. Maybe she felt she had to because she no longer had his protection?
what if...elaine actually wants to remove him from life support. as a trump opponent, why would she want to help trump by preventing thomas massie from running in a special election?
if she's in the hospital, by mitch's side, she can make the decision with little to stop her. however, if she's suddenly not in the country, it's a lot harder for her to convey that message to the doctors. also, how do we even know she's actually in china?
i mean...if we're going to go with a full blown conspiracy - let's really do it.
the trump admin kidnapped elaine chao so that mitch can be kept on life support past the special election deadline
Even if you had tickets to the 2022 Final Four?
Not all marriages are created equal. My best guess is Chao’s trip was planned before Mitch’s medical emergency. If he is in fact brain dead then she probably decided there’s nothing she can do anyway. So she decided to go ahead with her trip knowing that he’s laying in a vegetative state with little or no hope of recovery and will still be laying in a vegetative state with little or no hope of recovery when she returns.
Does this stuff with Mitch's wife seem normal?
Is this how married couples operate?
If it looks like a duck...
I’m not sure if that’s accurate or not. But I’m fairly certain that Kentucky House Bill 622 (2024) stipulates that the Governor must notify the sheriff in every county by mail at least 56 days before the special election.
So that means that even if that notice was issued today, the very earliest the election could be held would be September 1. And the Senate will be in recess at that time until reconvening on September 14.
(Sigh)
Did you even read the words that I wrote? Where did I say that her actions seem ‘normal’ or that I agree with her decision? I simply said that if her intention was to keep Mitch on life support then she didn’t need to fly to the other side of the world to make it happen.
What's certain, is litigation will happen as the laws appear ambigious.
And none of that litigation will be resolved in time to hold a special election prior to the regularly scheduled election. Sounds like a colossal waste of time, money, and resources.
Oh heavens. Not time, money, and resources.
Good point. We should definitely have Kentucky spend millions of dollars and countless hours of volunteers’ time holding a special election so the Democrats can spend the last 7 legislative weeks of 2026 losing every vote by 51-49 instead of 51-48.