Iran Peace Talks

LafayetteBear

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You're an idiot. It was supposed to be Colonel, not General. You're as pathetic as tubby.
Who's the idiot here, Captain Houseboat? YOU posted that your cousin was a Lieutenant General, not a Lieutenant Colonel. I caught you in your mistake/lie, and now you're all mad (embarrassed, actually) that we caught you red handed. Get over your mistaken/lying self.
 

baltimorened

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It turns out that Ned was prescient. Vance and the Iranian representatives (their Parliament Speaker and their Foreign Minister) are in fact meeting face to face. I'm more than a little surprised by this, but I have to hope that something positive comes out of it.
I'm doing the happy dance of intelligence...but in all honesty, I can't remember posting that..but you know what, I'm going to take credit just the same...
 

Moogy

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You're an idiot. It was supposed to be Colonel, not General. You're as pathetic as tubby.

You're insulting someone as stupid when you screwed up/lied in yet another stolen valor attempt, and in the middle of your "you don't know the military" board-wide rant.

You can't be real.

You have to be a scrapped 1st attempt at "needlessly angry and argumentative AI."

You have no honor. You have no integrity. But you do have horse juice dripping from your chin, (No)Private(s) Hotturd.
 
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LafayetteBear

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there are certainly lots of lieutenant Colonels at the war college.
There may well be, but there are no Lieutenant Generals (i.e., 3 star generals). Captain Houseboat's initial claim was that his cousin who works at the U.S. Army War College is a Lieutenant General. When I pointed out that NO Lieutenant Generals work at the U.S. Army War College, he responded with "Hey, dumbass, it was supposed to be Lieutenant Colonel." It was as if I had made the mistake instead of him. LOL ...
 

baltimorened

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There may well be, but there are no Lieutenant Generals (i.e., 3 star generals). Captain Houseboat's initial claim was that his cousin who works at the U.S. Army War College is a Lieutenant General. When I pointed out that NO Lieutenant Generals work at the U.S. Army War College, he responded with "Hey, dumbass, it was supposed to be Lieutenant Colonel." It was as if I had made the mistake instead of him. LOL ...
sometimes you just have to go with the flow..people make mistakes..I made one about 27 years ago...decided never to make another one, so far so good.
 

dpic73

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absolutely I accept their opinions and their reasons.

And, just to be clear, I don't dismiss the articles from generals or psychologists that you post. My point is that you have this tendency to post articles that support your positions....and that makes sense to me. But what I am trying to get you to accept, unsuccessfully so far, is that just because half (and what you've posted doesn't come close to matching that number) of people agree with your position, that means half don't agree. So, I've asked I might not know all the facts this question - for which there is no answer - why is it that the people in the articles you post are right, and the others are wrong? Isn't it just possible, that someone with an opposite opinions might be right...just once??

I look at the opinions of people with divergent opinions. I might not know all the facts, generally I don't but I have opinions and in My mind, those opinions are right. You do the same, lock in your opinions based on what you know or believe.
Ned, Id say it's much less than half that disagree with me since he's polling in the 30s and Democrats have flipped 30 seats since he took office. But are you going to tell me that we shouldn't give a lot of weight to the opinions of honorable 4 star generals who have worked with him closely? Who's going to dispute them? Pete Hegseth? LOL.

I'm sorry dude, the preponderance of the evidence, including what we've witnessed with our own eyes and ears, tells us something undeniable, the man ain't right upstairs. You can try to fluff him all you want, but you know better. This is a man who lives most of his life in public either on the tv screen or social media to a degree that takes all the air out of the room, yet you pretend you don't notice crazy when you see it. You might be normalizing it but I don't believe that you're that blind.

Oh and let's add another former Defense Secretary(Mark Esper) to the list. Do you think these four men are just making it all up?

"Asked earlier this year whether he would vote for Trump in a 2024 run, Esper gave a categorical no.

No, and I’ll tell you why. Because in my view, any elected leader needs to meet some basic criteria: they need to be able to put country over self, they need to have a certain amount of integrity and principle, they need to be able to reach across the aisle and bring people together and unite the country. Look, Donald Trump doesn’t meet those marks for me,” Esper said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” back in May.

Esper said on “CNN This Morning” last week that Trump is “unfit for office” and that the GOP should move on to another generation of candidates".



 

Moogy

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sometimes you just have to go with the flow..people make mistakes..I made one about 27 years ago...decided never to make another one, so far so good.

And, other times, you "have" to call people out on their mistakes ... because they have a history of mocking others for being stupid, ignorant, etc. ... and they, in fact, did that very thing in the instant case ... and because they're holding themselves out as a comparative subject matter expert ... and because they're attempting to use the incorrect factoid to establish credibility where none otherwise exists ... and because they're just verified colossal d-bags.

See, ned ... we don't need lessons in how to interact with folks. We know what we're doing. We're old, too. Not as old as you, but we got it figured out. If we wanted to be nice, we would be ... we know the benefits, we know the drawbacks. We're pretty darned successful, and if you ever want tips on how to live a better life, I'm here for you, buddy. We don't need lessons in weighing the merits, and see all sides to the story ... we're really friggin good at it. Here I'm speaking for folks like myself and Bear ... you should be saving your preaching for the mouth-breathers who support the same fascist as you do.
 

baltimorened

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Ned, Id say it's much less than half that disagree with me since he's polling in the 30s and Democrats have flipped 30 seats since he took office. But are you going to tell me that we shouldn't give a lot of weight to the opinions of honorable 4 star generals who have worked with him closely? Who's going to dispute them? Pete Hegseth? LOL.

I'm sorry dude, the preponderance of the evidence, including what we've witnessed with our own eyes and ears, tells us something undeniable, the man ain't right upstairs. You can try to fluff him all you want, but you know better. This is a man who lives most of his life in public either on the tv screen or social media to a degree that takes all the air out of the room, yet you pretend you don't notice crazy when you see it. You might be normalizing it but I don't believe that you're that blind.

Oh and let's add another former Defense Secretary(Mark Esper) to the list. Do you think these four men are just making it all up?

"Asked earlier this year whether he would vote for Trump in a 2024 run, Esper gave a categorical no.

No, and I’ll tell you why. Because in my view, any elected leader needs to meet some basic criteria: they need to be able to put country over self, they need to have a certain amount of integrity and principle, they need to be able to reach across the aisle and bring people together and unite the country. Look, Donald Trump doesn’t meet those marks for me,” Esper said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” back in May.

Esper said on “CNN This Morning” last week that Trump is “unfit for office” and that the GOP should move on to another generation of candidates".



first of all, I don't fluff anybody...not the right analogy to use with me....

Next, yep you're right trump's approval rating at 30% is terrible...but I'd submit that a large portion of that number take that position either because they don't like his policies, his blustering, the war or whatever....not because they think he's clinically insane.

Now you can disagree with me, and obviously you do....and that's OK...I've been around people with dementia...and IMO trump is not in that category...have no experience with clinically insane and would have no basis to describe anyone that way. Maybe you have and have a better feel for the symptoms, but again IMO, trump is not in that category.

In fact, when I compare the visible actions of Biden - the way he walked, his blank expressions, seemingly not knowing where he was or was supposed to be doing - during his administration, I still would not have referred to him as being clinically insane. Again JMO
 

TICrack

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hard way to negotiate...
Not really. Ever had mediation with attorneys? I didn’t love the experience but it worked
no, I think it's beneficial for negotiations if the Iranians think trump is clinically insane.

Don't you find it a little unique that people who have never met, spoken with, or medically examined trump can come out with these kinds of analysis? It's bad enough when people use WebMD to analyze other's illnesses.
what if you replaced Trump with Biden in that last paragraph?

Sometimes, crazy just like dementia, is something we can all see and hear
 

baltimorened

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Not really. Ever had mediation with attorneys? I didn’t love the experience but it worked

what if you replaced Trump with Biden in that last paragraph?

Sometimes, crazy just like dementia, is something we can all see and hear
replace all you want.. if you just want to analyze a person's mental state without even talking with them, I think that's foolish...now, that's just me...maybe for others it's OK.

Personally if you asked me, and nobody did, a lot of Biden's prospective issues are because of age....at 81 or so, things start to "give out"...But on the other side, he made it to 81, which is longer than a heck of a lot of people. The question comes down not to age itself, but how does a person react, respond, etc at that age. I know people who are 80 or so (I'm one of them) who move better and think more clearly than others much younger. (although there are some on here who might take issue with my thought prowess)
 

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first of all, I don't fluff anybody...not the right analogy to use with me....

Next, yep you're right trump's approval rating at 30% is terrible...but I'd submit that a large portion of that number take that position either because they don't like his policies, his blustering, the war or whatever....not because they think he's clinically insane.

Now you can disagree with me, and obviously you do....and that's OK...I've been around people with dementia...and IMO trump is not in that category...have no experience with clinically insane and would have no basis to describe anyone that way. Maybe you have and have a better feel for the symptoms, but again IMO, trump is not in that category.

In fact, when I compare the visible actions of Biden - the way he walked, his blank expressions, seemingly not knowing where he was or was supposed to be doing - during his administration, I still would not have referred to him as being clinically insane. Again JMO

Wipe your chin, Mr. Non-Fluffer.
 

TigerRagRob

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If you feel the need to clean it up, you can call it dementia mixed with malignant narcissism.

MSN lmao and a so-called expert that I bet never had a meeting with Trump moreless a medical eval...
 

TigerRagRob

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Right? he would never do anything crazy! We are SO stupid!

shall we bring up all the ones you have done over the years. Granted you got that ONE time we did a you.....
 

TigerRagRob

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LMAO, you claim Biden is a pedophile and Hitler. Have you ever met him?
His own kids said that. His daughter claimed he did things to her when she was a child. Who clamed Trump did anything on pedo island? Nobody that was there of course...
 

dpic73

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His own kids said that. His daughter claimed he did things to her when she was a child. Who clamed Trump did anything on pedo island? Nobody that was there of course...
You are an anti-truth, lying POS propagandist and that's why we need to end MAGA once and for all. I dare you to show me a quote where she said he did things to her. She said no such thing.

But Trump is insane.
 

other1

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His own kids said that. His daughter claimed he did things to her when she was a child. Who clamed Trump did anything on pedo island? Nobody that was there of course...
If trump did nothing wrong then why don't they release the files that would supposedly vindicate him??
 

TigerRagRob

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You are an anti-truth, lying POS propagandist and that's why we need to end MAGA once and for all. I dare you to show me a quote where she said he did things to her. She said no such thing.

But Trump is insane.
Did you read what was in her diary? Did you hear what Hunter said on his laptop? Also you calling anybody a liar or propagandist is rich...To demonstrate your logic and thinking you said this person was a better choice than Trump and made more sense than Trump.....

 

dpic73

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Did you read what was in her diary? Did you hear what Hunter said on his laptop? Also you calling anybody a liar or propagandist is rich...To demonstrate your logic and thinking you said this person was a better choice than Trump and made more sense than Trump.....


Actually I did because her entire diary is posted online. I dare you to find a quote where she says he did anything to her. I dare you. https://archive.org/stream/ashley-biden-diary/ashleybdiarytranscribed (1)_djvu.txt

To demonstrate your logic, you only believe what European bots with anonymous handles tell you, instead of actual facts. Rational, critical thinking people don't come to the same conclusions you do about anything. You only believe what you want to believe, with or without evidence.
 

TigerRagRob

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Actually I did because her entire diary is posted online. I dare you to find a quote where she says he did anything to her. I dare you. https://archive.org/stream/ashley-biden-diary/ashleybdiarytranscribed (1)_djvu.txt

To demonstrate your logic, you only believe what European bots with anonymous handles tell you, instead of actual facts. Rational, critical thinking people don't come to the same conclusions you do about anything. You only believe what you want to believe, with or without evidence.
Did she state that her father took inappropriate showers with her? Do we not have lots of videos of him groping little kids? Just keep defending your cult. None of us are under any illusion that one day you might come to your senses. You are a horrible evil pos person that even some of your fellow leftist wanted banned not long ago....
 

dpic73

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Did she state that her father took inappropriate showers with her?
Her words "PROBABLY not appropriate" she didn't say he WAS inappropriate nor suggest he did anything to her. She's also his biggest fan. How could you take those words while knowing how she feels about him and come to the conclusion that he harmed her? You can't unless you're only interested in spreading propaganda.
Do we not have lots of videos of him groping little kids?
Groping, lol? Holy ****. No, I see an kind, grandfatherly older man who loves children - it's only propagandists that see something different.
Just keep defending your cult. None of us are under any illusion that one day you might come to your senses. You are a horrible evil pos person that even some of your fellow leftist wanted banned not long ago....
😂🤣😂🤣😂

You say the dumbest sh*t. Name names, I DARE you!
 

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Her words "PROBABLY not appropriate" she didn't say he WAS inappropriate nor suggest he did anything to her. She's also his biggest fan. How could you take those words while knowing how she feels about him and come to the conclusion that he harmed her? You can't unless you're only interested in spreading propaganda.

Groping, lol? Holy ****. No, I see an kind, grandfatherly older man who loves children - it's only propagandists that see something different.

😂🤣😂🤣😂

You say the dumbest sh*t. Name names, I DARE you!
Groping, lol? Holy ****. No, I see an kind, grandfatherly older man who loves children - it's only propagandists that see something different.

You can't be serious stating this...
 

dpic73

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Groping, lol? Holy ****. No, I see an kind, grandfatherly older man who loves children - it's only propagandists that see something different.

You can't be serious stating this...
I can but you can't because you're a magat and magats aren't rational people. My grandfather kissed me and my sister on the head every time we visted growing up - was he a pedophile?
 

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I can but you can't because you're a magat and magats aren't rational people. My grandfather kissed me and my sister on the head every time we visted growing up - was he a pedophile?
Yep, my grandfather indeed kissed my head, hugged me, and taught me so much. I miss him every day. He was very much unlike Biden as was your grandfather. If you can't see the difference, that's on you.
 
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dpic73

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Yep, my grandfather indeed kissed my head, hugged me, and taught me so much. I miss him every day. He was very much unlike Biden as was your grandfather. If you can't see the difference, that's on you.
You don't want to see the difference because your shameless echo chamber told you to believe things that weren't true.

But in Biden’s more than 40 years of public life — including two prior runs for the Democratic presidential nomination and eight years as vice president — there have been no formal accusations, complaints, arrests or investigations that implicate him in any sort of sex crimes involving kids.

None, but guess who has been accused of inappropriate contact with underage girls? Take all the time you need.

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Our searches of Google and the Nexis database, dating back to Biden’s Senate days, turned up no arrests, news reports, or authoritative testimonies of inappropriate acts by Biden involving children.

When we reached out to discuss the accusations, Biden’s campaign pointed us to a May 2020 statement that was issued in response to an Instagram post by Donald Trump Jr. in which the president’s son shared an image of Biden saying, "See you later, alligator" alongside a photo of an alligator saying, "In a while, pedophile," to his 3 million followers.

Andrew Bates, a spokesman for Biden, told the New York Times, "No repulsive, manipulative tactic will change the subject from how almost 90,000 Americans have paid for Donald Trump’s coronavirus negligence with their lives and how the booming economy he inherited from the Obama-Biden Administration is now suffering from depression-level job losses." The COVID-19 death count in the U.S., as of this writing, is over 164,000.

Trump Jr. later claimed he was "just joking" in a Twitter post, yet also repeated the insinuation by saying Biden should stop his "unwanted touching" and posted a collage of photographs of Biden with children at White House events.

Biden briefly addressed Trump Jr.’s actions shortly after, saying that what the president’s son was "trying to do is get something going on the internet" by repeating the claim often enough that people believe it.

"It’s sick," Biden said during a Yahoo News virtual town hall. "But he is his father’s son."

President Donald Trump has also been accused of sexual misconduct by several women. Dated photos of Trump with young girls, some of them doctored, have also spread on social media along with unproven allegations that he, too, is a pedophile.

Examining the images​

On social media, the accusation is often accompanied by images, memes, GIFs and videos of Biden appearing to touch children inappropriately. The photos that are real often lack context. Others are not of him or have been deceptively edited to suggest something improper.

We found that these images are overwhelmingly captured at public events when he is posing for pictures or greeting people and many depict Biden showing affection toward his family.

For example, one photo, of Biden leaning down by a boy with his hand cupped on the child’s face, shows him comforting his grandson at the funeral of Beau Biden, Biden’s son who died of brain cancer. Another image from the funeral routinely used in posts shows Biden kissing the top of his granddaughter’s head as she stands holding her mother’s hand. Another shows Biden leaning in to kiss his grandson during his 2013 swearing-in ceremony as vice president.

Some of the photos used in the posts were taken at various White House events over the years, and in multiple cases the parents have spoken out against claims that Biden behaved inappropriately around their children.

One often-used photo shows Biden touching a young girl’s arm as he leans in to whisper something as she looks slightly uncomfortable.

The image shows Maggie Coons, the daughter of Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware, during her father’s swearing-in ceremony in January 2015.

After the clip went viral, Sen. Coons, a Democrat, told Fox News host Chris Wallace that Biden was simply offering her reassurance and that his daughter didn’t think he was creepy. Coons said that Biden, who held Coons’ Senate seat before resigning to serve as vice president, has known his children their whole lives.

"I could hear him," Coons said in the interview. "He was leaning forward and whispering some encouragement to her about how, when he was sworn in, his own daughter Ashley was 13 and she felt awkward and uncomfortable."

Carly Melin, former member of the Minnesota House of Representatives, spoke out on Twitter when a 2014 photo she took with Biden and former U.S. Rep. Rick Nolan, D-Minn., became the subject of a Twitter thread by conservative columnist Richard Armande Mills. In the image, Melin and Biden are both holding Melin’s son. Mills, a conservative columnist for Turning Point USA, wrote in the tweet that Biden is "an open sexual predator."

"Sir, I don’t know you," Melin responded. "You have tweeted out multiple photos of my infant son in a disturbing, misconstrued attempt to advance your political viewpoint. Delete all tweets that include my son. I’ve reported your behavior to Twitter. Thank you."

Our ruling​

Social media users claim that Biden is a pedophile. There is zero evidence — no accusations, testimonies, arrests or investigations — that gives this claim any credibility.

Photos that supposedly support the claim are taken out of context or have been directly contradicted by the families involved.

We rate this Pants on Fire.

 

TigerRagRob

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Groping, lol? Holy ****. No, I see an kind, grandfatherly older man who loves children - it's only propagandists that see something different.

You can't be serious stating this...
He defends their pedo's like always....
 
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other1

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If he did something wrong why didnt Biden-Harris release them before the election to keep him from running???
Maybe they were trying to cover up others as well. It ain't just trump. But, FWIW, the only person trump cares about himself and he would throw anyone under the bus if it meant saving his arse.
 

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kelly was not a general, if you're referring to the senator...

there are anywhere from 600-900 generals at any given time. So if you figure that Trump has been in office for 4 years in 2017 -2010, and 1 1/2 years this term, that would yield thousands of them...if only 3 were concerned about trump's abilities, that's a small, small %.

I'd bet we could come up with a higher % just on this board who would question either your's or my capabilities. Different parameters for sure, but same question.

Just to bring some sanity to this post we have too many generals for the Indians we have