Iran Peace Talks

[TigerGrowls]

Historic.



Trump has achieved something in this war no president has before:
Face to face negotiations with top Iranian leaders.

America doesn't have a relationship with Iran like it does Saudi Arabia or really any other country for that matter.

America communicates with Iran through 3rd parties or at best through ambassadors. And it never goes well. The Islamic world (especially Iran) and America have been enemies since the George Washington Administration. We communicated with Russia during the cold war better than we do with Iran now.

One of the many reasons the Iran Nuclear Deal failed and was always going to fail was because the deal required Nuclear site inspections.
America and Iran aren't on speaking terms. Never have been.

Face to face meetings between high ranking American and Iranian officials is a big and historical occurrence.
This is the equivalent of Trump stepping foot into North Korea during his first term.

 

[LafayetteBear]

TG: Are you sure that Iranians and Americans are meeting face to face? They have always used intermediaries before this. First it was Qataris and Omanis. Now, it is Pakistanis. My assumption is that Vance would be meeting with Pakistanis, as would the Iranians, with the Pakistani mediators doing a form of shuttle diplomacy.

 

[TigerGrowls]

TG: Are you sure that Iranians and Americans are meeting face to face? They have always used intermediaries before this. First it was Qataris and Omanis. Now, it is Pakistanis. My assumption is that Vance would be meeting with Pakistanis, as would the Iranians, with the Pakistani mediators doing a form of shuttle diplomacy.

Good point. We shall see shortly.

 

[baltimorened]

TG: Are you sure that Iranians and Americans are meeting face to face? They have always used intermediaries before this. First it was Qataris and Omanis. Now, it is Pakistanis. My assumption is that Vance would be meeting with Pakistanis, as would the Iranians, with the Pakistani mediators doing a form of shuttle diplomacy.

hard way to negotiate...

 

[ANEW]

TG: Are you sure that Iranians and Americans are meeting face to face? They have always used intermediaries before this. First it was Qataris and Omanis. Now, it is Pakistanis. My assumption is that Vance would be meeting with Pakistanis, as would the Iranians, with the Pakistani mediators doing a form of shuttle diplomacy.

I heard somewhere on tv that the delegations will be in separate rooms with someone running messages between them. Not meeting f2f.

I think it's a a waste of time. We're going to have to thump them some more.

 

[baltimorened]

I heard somewhere on tv that the delegations will be in separate rooms with someone running messages between them. Not meeting f2f.

I think it's a a waste of time. We're going to have to thump them some more.

I agree..the Iranians don't seem to understand that they're dealing with a person, to quote dpic73, who is "clinically insane".

 

[dpic73]

I agree..the Iranians don't seem to understand that they're dealing with a person, to quote dpic73, who is "clinically insane".

If you feel the need to clean it up, you can call it dementia mixed with malignant narcissism.

Medical expert issues dire warning on Trump's health: ‘All the signs’

Despite the critics, Trump repeatedly boasts about acing multiple cognitive tests.

www.yahoo.com

‘The Press Has Sanewashed Trump’s Dementia and Mental Illness’: Dr. John Gartner

The psychologist and founder of Duty to Warn says the aging Trump has dementia and is severely mentally ill.

mindsitenews.org

MSN

 

[Hotshoe]

I agree..the Iranians don't seem to understand that they're dealing with a person, to quote dpic73, who is "clinically insane".

The Iranians are already lying saying we agreed to 2 items while we were still flying to the meeting. It's rather comical. I see no way Iran agrees to terms or honors them. It's most likely another stall tactic on their part.

 

[baltimorened]

If you feel the need to clean it up, you can call it dementia mixed with malignant narcissism.

Medical expert issues dire warning on Trump's health: ‘All the signs’

Despite the critics, Trump repeatedly boasts about acing multiple cognitive tests.

www.yahoo.com

‘The Press Has Sanewashed Trump’s Dementia and Mental Illness’: Dr. John Gartner

The psychologist and founder of Duty to Warn says the aging Trump has dementia and is severely mentally ill.

mindsitenews.org

MSN

no, I think it's beneficial for negotiations if the Iranians think trump is clinically insane.

Don't you find it a little unique that people who have never met, spoken with, or medically examined trump can come out with these kinds of analysis? It's bad enough when people use WebMD to analyze other's illnesses.

 

[Hotshoe]

If you feel the need to clean it up, you can call it dementia mixed with malignant narcissism.

Medical expert issues dire warning on Trump's health: ‘All the signs’

Despite the critics, Trump repeatedly boasts about acing multiple cognitive tests.

www.yahoo.com

‘The Press Has Sanewashed Trump’s Dementia and Mental Illness’: Dr. John Gartner

The psychologist and founder of Duty to Warn says the aging Trump has dementia and is severely mentally ill.

mindsitenews.org

MSN

 

[Chumpsky]

Now that our best statesman, Jd Vance, is on it, I'm expecting a solid outcome. The guy is a 21st century King Midas.

 

[dpic73]

no, I think it's beneficial for negotiations if the Iranians think trump is clinically insane.

Don't you find it a little unique that people who have never met, spoken with, or medically examined trump can come out with these kinds of analysis? It's bad enough when people use WebMD to analyze other's illnesses.

How about all the people, including generals, who knew him well from his first administration? Do their opinions mean anything?

 

[dpic73]

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Right? he would never do anything crazy! We are SO stupid!

 

[baltimorened]

How about all the people, including generals, who knew him well from his first administration? Do their opinions mean anything?

they definitely mean something to them..but I would assume there are other generals who worked for him who feel differently. I'm going to assume that Trump is not an easy person to work for...

but i never knew a general who was equipped to definitively know about someone's mental status. I've walked out of meeting when someone might say about the boss "he's crazy" but that wasn't intended to be a clinical diagnosis.

 

[dpic73]

they definitely mean something to them..but I would assume there are other generals who worked for him who feel differently. I'm going to assume that Trump is not an easy person to work for...

Can you name any generals who said he's not insane, dangerous or doesn't have dementia?

 

[baltimorened]

Can you name any generals who said he's not insane, dangerous or doesn't have dementia?

TBH, I don't know any generals who have served during trump terms. Most of today's generals weren't even in the service when I retired.

 

[Hotshoe]

Right? he would never do anything crazy! We are SO stupid!

You absolutely are which is proven everyday on here.

 

[dpic73]

TBH, I don't know any generals who have served during trump terms. Most of today's generals weren't even in the service when I retired.

Milley, Maddog and Kelly.

All three warned us that he's dangerously unfit to lead this country.

 

[Hotshoe]

Can you name any generals who said he's not insane, dangerous or doesn't have dementia?

His entire staff and the military you moron. My cousin, who is currently a Lieutenant General at the U.S. War College in Carlisle, is also fully in support. Meanwhile, while we're clearing mines in the Strait, you do nothing but post Iranian propaganda telling folks Iran is winning. Something you know absolutely nothing about, you simply post more liberal lies and bullsh-t. Just stop. You have zero military background or knowledge. You post X bullsh-t as if it's real. You haven't a frking clue of what is going on.

 

[baltimorened]

Milley, Maddog and Kelly.

All three warned us that he's dangerously unfit to lead this country.

kelly was not a general, if you're referring to the senator...

there are anywhere from 600-900 generals at any given time. So if you figure that Trump has been in office for 4 years in 2017 -2010, and 1 1/2 years this term, that would yield thousands of them...if only 3 were concerned about trump's abilities, that's a small, small %.

I'd bet we could come up with a higher % just on this board who would question either your's or my capabilities. Different parameters for sure, but same question.

 

[dpic73]

His entire staff and the military you moron. My cousin, who is currently a Lieutenant General at the U.S. War College in Carlisle, is also fully in support. Meanwhile, while we're clearing mines in the Strait, you do nothing but post Iranian propaganda telling folks Iran is winning. Something you know absolutely nothing about, you simply post more liberal lies and bullsh-t. Just stop. You have zero military background or knowledge. You post X bullsh-t as if it's real. You haven't a frking clue of what is going on.

Yes. He literally hasn't changed his shtick in many years. He inserts himself into things already in a raging lather. He'll call you pathetic or ignorant. He'll reference some historical factoid ... the great majority of the time it'll be completely irrelevant, but he thinks it proves whatever point he's trying to make. He almost never puts together a valid and sound argument, but is convinced he nailed it. Almost always, he attributes some straw man to you, and argues against that. He can never admit he messed up, which happens very often.

 

[Hotshoe]

How about all the people, including generals, who knew him well from his first administration? Do their opinions mean anything?

It's astonishing how clueless you are regarding the military. Your cat needs water, pup.

 

[dpic73]

It's astonishing how clueless you are regarding the military. Your cat needs water, pup.

Jim Mattis described Trump as ‘a madman in a circular room screaming’, book reveals

Jim Mattis resigned as Mr Trump’s first defense secretary after the president withdrew troops from Syria in 2018

www.independent.co.uk

Milley calls Trump ‘a fascist to the core’ in new Woodward book

Former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair and retired Gen. Mark Milley has called former President Trump “a total fascist” and believes he is the most dangerous person to the U.S., according to excerpts f…

thehill.com

Heed the generals who call Trump unfit to lead

The former commander-in-chief understands nothing of military service, duty, or a cause greater than himself.

www.defenseone.com

 

[baltimorened]

Jim Mattis described Trump as ‘a madman in a circular room screaming’, book reveals

Jim Mattis resigned as Mr Trump’s first defense secretary after the president withdrew troops from Syria in 2018

www.independent.co.uk

Milley calls Trump ‘a fascist to the core’ in new Woodward book

Former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair and retired Gen. Mark Milley has called former President Trump “a total fascist” and believes he is the most dangerous person to the U.S., according to excerpts f…

thehill.com

Heed the generals who call Trump unfit to lead

The former commander-in-chief understands nothing of military service, duty, or a cause greater than himself.

www.defenseone.com

dpic..sure you can pull up quotes from people who have a dislike for trump the man or trump the leader. But can't you accept that there are others who feel the opposite? As I posted, the opinions of a few, don't define the reality of the mass, on the opinion of the few.

 

[dpic73]

dpic..sure you can pull up quotes from people who have a dislike for trump the man or trump the leader. But can't you accept that there are others who feel the opposite? As I posted, the opinions of a few, don't define the reality of the mass, on the opinion of the few.

Don't move the goalposts Ned. If I post an article about a psychologist who says Trump has dementia or is insane, you scoff because they've never met him. When I post articles from generals who know him well, you dismiss it because they don't like him.

Did it ever occur to you that they don't like him for good, legitimate reasons?

 

[Hotshoe]

Jim Mattis described Trump as ‘a madman in a circular room screaming’, book reveals

Jim Mattis resigned as Mr Trump’s first defense secretary after the president withdrew troops from Syria in 2018

www.independent.co.uk

Milley calls Trump ‘a fascist to the core’ in new Woodward book

Former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chair and retired Gen. Mark Milley has called former President Trump “a total fascist” and believes he is the most dangerous person to the U.S., according to excerpts f…

thehill.com

Heed the generals who call Trump unfit to lead

The former commander-in-chief understands nothing of military service, duty, or a cause greater than himself.

www.defenseone.com

You are beyond clueless. You know, Obama literally purged the military. Tell me again how little you know about the military.

 

[dpic73]

You are beyond clueless. You know, Obama literally purged the military. Tell me again how little you know about the military.

WTF does that have to do with the subject????? F off you whacked out freak. Call it a day please...

 

[Hotshoe]

Don't move the goalposts Ned. If I post an article about a psychologist who says Trump has dementia or is insane, you scoff because they've never met him. When I post articles from generals who know him well, you dismiss it because they don't like him.

Did it ever occur to you that they don't like him for good, legitimate reasons?

You have to be so poisoned to believe someone on X or the media, who has never met or spoken to Trump is legitimate. Honestly, just how stupid are you.

I'm going to call your police department on you. Do you know why? Because I saw your words on social media and believe you have dementia. They'll be there in a bit. Good God, you need serious help.

 

[Hotshoe]

WTF does that have to do with the subject????? F off you whacked out freak. Call it a day please...

WTF does that have to do with the subject????? F off you whacked out freak. Call it a day please...

Nah, too much fun owning your pathetic self.

 

[Hotshoe]

WTF does that have to do with the subject????? F off you whacked out freak. Call it a day please...

Just to ruin you Iranian day, we are clearing the Strait of Hormuz. Who's winning bir$h. We are. Not your Iranian friends.

 

[dpic73]

You have to be so poisoned to believe someone on X or the media, who has never met or spoken to Trump is legitimate. Honestly, just how stupid are you.

I'm going to call your police department on you. Do you know why? Because I saw your words on social media and believe you have dementia. They'll be there in a bit. Good God, you need serious help.

I posted the fvkking words of three generals who know him well dipshit.

 

[Fac]

Didn't Obama say something like this--- Don't ever underestimate the ability of Biden to F*ck something up.

dpic, what did you think about that?

 

[Moogy]

Nah, too much fun owning your pathetic self.

Yikes ... you think it's fun to OWN PEOPLE?!?!

Hotshoe, the racist wannabe slaveowner.

 

[Moogy]

Didn't Obama say something like this--- Don't ever underestimate the ability of Biden to F*ck something up.

dpic, what did you think about that?

There we go ... man-with-whataboutism-Tourette's manages to mention Obama AND Biden in one post for absolutely no reason.

 

[baltimorened]

Don't move the goalposts Ned. If I post an article about a psychologist who says Trump has dementia or is insane, you scoff because they've never met him. When I post articles from generals who know him well, you dismiss it because they don't like him.

Did it ever occur to you that they don't like him for good, legitimate reasons?

absolutely I accept their opinions and their reasons.

And, just to be clear, I don't dismiss the articles from generals or psychologists that you post. My point is that you have this tendency to post articles that support your positions....and that makes sense to me. But what I am trying to get you to accept, unsuccessfully so far, is that just because half (and what you've posted doesn't come close to matching that number) of people agree with your position, that means half don't agree. So, I've asked I might not know all the facts this question - for which there is no answer - why is it that the people in the articles you post are right, and the others are wrong? Isn't it just possible, that someone with an opposite opinions might be right...just once??

I look at the opinions of people with divergent opinions. I might not know all the facts, generally I don't but I have opinions and in My mind, those opinions are right. You do the same, lock in your opinions based on what you know or believe.

 

[LafayetteBear]

My cousin, who is currently a Lieutenant General at the U.S. War College in Carlisle, is also fully in support.

Captain Houseboat: Your post bragging about your relatives' service, rather than your (non) service, prompted me to do a little internet research concerning the U.S. Army War College. You are correct that it is located in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, but that appears to be about it. Looks like you have some 'splainin to do. Here is what my research disclosed:

There are currently no 3-star generals (Lieutenant Generals) permanently stationed or working in leadership roles at the U.S. Army War College (USAWC) in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. The college is traditionally led by a 2-star general (Major General)

Major General Trevor J. Bredenkamp serves as the 54th Commandant of the U.S. Army War College. He assumed command on August 1, 2025, succeeding Major General David C. Hill. Since 1986, the position of Commandant at the USAWC has consistently been held by a Major General

While not permanently stationed there, three-star generals frequently visit the college for specialized events:

• Guest Speakers: Lt. Gen. Greg Anderson (18th Airborne Corps) recently visited to speak with the Class of 2026.
• Ceremonial Roles: Three-star officers often preside over changes of command, such as Lt. Gen. Laura A. Potter (Director of the Army Staff, who oversaw the 2025 ceremony

 

[LafayetteBear]

I heard somewhere on tv that the delegations will be in separate rooms with someone running messages between them. Not meeting f2f.

I think it's a a waste of time. We're going to have to thump them some more.

It turns out that Ned was prescient. Vance and the Iranian representatives (their Parliament Speaker and their Foreign Minister) are in fact meeting face to face. I'm more than a little surprised by this, but I have to hope that something positive comes out of it.

 

[firegiver]

Captain Houseboat: Your post bragging about your relatives' service, rather than your (non) service, prompted me to do a little internet research concerning the U.S. Army War College. You are correct that it is located in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, but that appears to be about it. Looks like you have some 'splainin to do. Here is what my research disclosed:

There are currently no 3-star generals (Lieutenant Generals) permanently stationed or working in leadership roles at the U.S. Army War College (USAWC) in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. The college is traditionally led by a 2-star general (Major General)

Major General Trevor J. Bredenkamp serves as the 54th Commandant of the U.S. Army War College. He assumed command on August 1, 2025, succeeding Major General David C. Hill. Since 1986, the position of Commandant at the USAWC has consistently been held by a Major General

While not permanently stationed there, three-star generals frequently visit the college for specialized events:

• Guest Speakers: Lt. Gen. Greg Anderson (18th Airborne Corps) recently visited to speak with the Class of 2026.
• Ceremonial Roles: Three-star officers often preside over changes of command, such as Lt. Gen. Laura A. Potter (Director of the Army Staff, who oversaw the 2025 ceremony

lol man, stealing valor on internet boards is totally on brand here.

 

[Hotshoe]

Captain Houseboat: Your post bragging about your relatives' service, rather than your (non) service, prompted me to do a little internet research concerning the U.S. Army War College. You are correct that it is located in Carlisle, Pennsylvania, but that appears to be about it. Looks like you have some 'splainin to do. Here is what my research disclosed:

There are currently no 3-star generals (Lieutenant Generals) permanently stationed or working in leadership roles at the U.S. Army War College (USAWC) in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. The college is traditionally led by a 2-star general (Major General)

Major General Trevor J. Bredenkamp serves as the 54th Commandant of the U.S. Army War College. He assumed command on August 1, 2025, succeeding Major General David C. Hill. Since 1986, the position of Commandant at the USAWC has consistently been held by a Major General

While not permanently stationed there, three-star generals frequently visit the college for specialized events:

• Guest Speakers: Lt. Gen. Greg Anderson (18th Airborne Corps) recently visited to speak with the Class of 2026.
• Ceremonial Roles: Three-star officers often preside over changes of command, such as Lt. Gen. Laura A. Potter (Director of the Army Staff, who oversaw the 2025 ceremony

Hey, dumbass, it was supposed to be Lieutenant Colonel. Oh boy, you got me now.

 

[Hotshoe]

lol man, stealing valor on internet boards is totally on brand here.

You're an idiot. It was supposed to be Colonel, not General. You're as pathetic as tubby.