Penn st Oklahoma st Nebraska then 4th will be a battle with VA tech Stanford Ohio st Iowa is how I see it
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Nobody is ruling them out for 3rd or 4th if everything breaks right for them.
Formidable is relative unless you’ve been hiding under a rock for the past few years.
I mean formidable in the national picture.
obviously... PSU is the front runner but if OKSt would stumble Iowa and ohio state can compete for 2nd. I do think VTech will be in the mix but a lot of unknowns still for VTech... Iowa has a proven lineup and showed compete for 3rd and possibly even 2nd if OKST would have any injuries or setbacks
Top 5 in the country is pretty formidable.
Would have to break perfectly for 3rd IMO.
Every team has injury struggles, and no team has fewer struggles than Iowa. There is no depth in that lineup.
This is probably the wrong board for that sentiment.
Honestly, it’s pretty bad if the HR is the right board for it as well. It might work well on the Rutgers board though.
There have only been a handful of teams that have won or competed for NCs in the last couple of decades. A team that finished 5th would not be one of the formidable teams for any of them during this time period.
I'm sure it's formidable to the teams Iowa looks to poach from every spring.
B-b-b-but they were nearly victims of Drake Ayala poaching their whole team.
we are in the middle of something very rare... a dynasty is the exception not the expectation!
I think if you are top 5 in the country at anything... you are formidable
by definition : A formidable opponent/adversary: Someone who is extremely difficult to beat in a contest or competition.
I think that there are like 78 or 79 D1 wrestling teams in the country!
If all but 3 or 4 teams in the country find you pretty hard to beat (74 of them would say Iowa is formidable)...
If we are looking at if from the lens of the top two or three teams... then maybe not as much but even the top teams with the exception of us... would not call IOWA an easy out!
I get it.... we are on a PSU board... we see it only from a PSU lens ... but there are nearly 80 teams and we are probably the only team that would be looking at winning 8-10 weight classes vs them
even OKST would be in danger of dropping 3-4 bouts (Arnold, Ferrari, Kueter at least) and a couple others could be close... meaning a slip up here or there could swing the match!
We are the only team that would not feel that way vs IOWA right now.
That is formidable to me! JMO
I'm only going to nitpick the " a dynasty is the exception not the expectation" portion of this. This sport, maybe more than any other, is essentially one dynasty after another and has been for basically the entirety of its NCAA history.
still 3 dynasties ... Iowa / OKST/ PSU
out of 80 programs..... only three has hand their claim (Maybe 4)
that is an exception!
I think if you had used the word “competitive” as opposed to “formidable,” most of us would agree.
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It seems like the recent williams results have stirred up some discussions, but
"Williams or Teemer type?" Oh no...
The Iowa PSU 2027 prediction thread on their board is a hoot.
One of our own, PUR158, is dribbling MSU’s head on the ground.
One of our own, PUR158, is dribbling MSU’s head on the ground.
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Some good information put out in this thread. I learned that "offensive dynamos" Blaze and Lilledahl more than doubled or almost doubled the bonus rate of Iowa's highest returning bonus point scorer.
I broke it down for them in that thread, but, they had many excuses ready to go.
Bonus rates from starters last year.
125: Lilledahl = 54%, Peterson = 13%
133: Blaze = 71%, Ayala = 39%
141: Davis = 43%, Bailey 20%
149: Van Ness = 74%, Block 31%
157: Duke = 70%, Williams 20%/Voinovich 22%
165: Mesenbrink = 96%, Caliendo = 63%
174: Haines = 78%, Kennedy = 39%
184: Welsh = 54%, Ferrari = 21%
197: Barr = 96%, Arnold = 25%
285: Mirasola = 39%, Kueter = 0%
Bonus rates from starters last year.
125: Lilledahl = 54%, Peterson = 13%
133: Blaze = 71%, Ayala = 39%
141: Davis = 43%, Bailey 20%
149: Van Ness = 74%, Block 31%
157: Duke = 70%, Williams 20%/Voinovich 22%
165: Mesenbrink = 96%, Caliendo = 63%
174: Haines = 78%, Kennedy = 39%
184: Welsh = 54%, Ferrari = 21%
197: Barr = 96%, Arnold = 25%
285: Mirasola = 39%, Kueter = 0%
100% bonus rate for Iowa since all of them scored bonus.
Since Kueter obtained Lewan's dream bonus rate of 0%, the correct % is 90%. (Just nitpicking.)
Didn't your mother teach you to search Google. You lazy wannabe Beaver.
Adding up all the returning bonus rates barely gets you to 100%.
Reta will be out soon it's gonna be way better. We need a healthy WC so I would wait
Honestly, when I first peeked at that thread, I was reminded of the inscription at the gates of hell in Dante’s inferno: abandon all hope ye who enter here”
We are now at the part of the year where they are predicting 8 All-Americans and 2 Champs (Their expectations have come down over the years)
Can they get to 150 with that?
only if they continue to eat lead paint chips.
It is all about the duals now, by the end of summer they will talk themselves into a 5-5 split. My personal favorite storyline over there is how Gabe Arnold is going to be "set loose" on the 174 weight class.
After whoever is repping Penn State and Minto, 174 is pretty shallow next season. Arnold is in a group of wrestlers that have a reasonable shot at 3rd (I'm picking Mantanona).
Sunshinedynomite 1 said:
Anything less than an undefeated season and winning a natty should be the goal.
real chance of 10 AA's and 4 National champs
33, 74,84 and 285
197 and 125 could be in the finals
Love the optimism...
Anything less than an undefeated season and winning a natty should be the goal.
real chance of 10 AA's and 4 National champs
33, 74,84 and 285
197 and 125 could be in the finals
Love the optimism...
I was just gonna say: “whatever sunshinedynomite is smoking… I want some of that stuff”Sunshinedynomite 1 said:
Anything less than an undefeated season and winning a natty should be the goal.
real chance of 10 AA's and 4 National champs
33, 74,84 and 285
197 and 125 could be in the finals
Love the optimism...
Or maybe they are an underground PSU troll
That is fair, I think Wask and Steed are ahead of him too. Wask beat him last year. He will be in a ton of 4-1 matches. I say he finishes where he was last year at 197. He is who he is, I just thought it comical that they feel a cut down to 74 would now make him more offensive.
Did everyone miss the big Iowa news last week? Kale Peterson removed himself from the portal and will stay at Iowa.
Only reason he'd stay is if he expects to be the man at 133 ie Crookham is cooked and will never make it through a season healthy.
Only reason he'd stay is if he expects to be the man at 133 ie Crookham is cooked and will never make it through a season healthy.