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RH QBs should always be able to throw better to their left - especially swing passes since you don't have to turn your full body. When you roll out should be better running to your right - throwing right. Drop back in the pocket not much diff either way.
Definitely need better O-Line play. I think Am could be decent with a good line. Watch his footwork in the Illinois game compared to Fordham. He had more time and set his feet in the Fordham game.
I’m just as skeptical as many about Adrian, but the OL play is equally if not more concerning heading into B1G play.
What’s puzzling to me is how the OL play improved when we finished 4-2 in 2018. Will the OL improve like that this year? It’s hard to know for sure, but I have a feeling Austin will be the odd man out if Frost somehow keeps his job this year.
What’s puzzling to me is how the OL play improved when we finished 4-2 in 2018. Will the OL improve like that this year? It’s hard to know for sure, but I have a feeling Austin will be the odd man out if Frost somehow keeps his job this year.
That is just not reality. He needs to make faster decisions, set his feet and let it rip. He holds it too long. Not the lines fault, most of the time.
I think the OL is hampered big time by one guy and that is Piper. The other guys although not great, aren't getting handled like Piper.
True. However I wouldn't be surprised if am has most of his production from busted plays/scrambles. On the flip most of his fumbles as well I would assume
Yeah him and Sichterman. That guy looks like he can barely move. I was much more impressed with the backup guards who came in late in the Fordham game. We were actually getting some push with the backups.
I thought that was the smart move right off the bat. I think Corcoran played left guard in high school and Teddy played left tackle. Seemed like their natural positions.
I mean is this the case? We do have an OL coach, and there has been times Piper looked ok, but man this year he seems to be regressing bad.
Damn. I remember hearing a lot about Piper being freakishly strong coming in, too. I was watching him in some film the past 2 games and you’re not wrong. He looks ok sometimes, but he looks confused too. I’ll go on record saying Martinez’s fumble at Illinois is just as much on the OL as it is Martinez’s. The left side got destroyed on that play… The opposing DCs will exploit the weak spots of the Left side of the line, and we will continue to see this if Frost, Lubick and Austin don’t make adjustments.
In regards to the other comments, it looks like Jurgens can hold his own just fine to me so far this year. I think he has a future in the NFL if he puts together more consistency.
That kid never shouldve been given a scholarship. He's maybe 6'1.5" 280 thats tiny for a B1G Offensive lineman. Whats even more puzzling is why they arent starting Trent Hixon who is a legit 6'4" 300+
He's supposedly a freak athlete that can jump out the gym, so he has to have some explosive ability. Honestly that says more about our coaching we can't get a guy like that to perform. Piper absolutely deserved the scholarship though.
so the way I see this, is subtract the entire bottom row. Those are the backwards passes from 0 to -10 yards. Then consider the next row, short yardage 0-10, high percentage.. but then his completion percentage drops way off.
It seems to me his completion percentage is inflated with all the short yardage swing passes to the sidelines, and he is actually more like a 50% passer type of guy or less.
I went and added up those completion percentages, (minus the backwards pass row) and divided by 15, so the completion average turned out to be 53.4%. (801/15)
(not weighted based on number of throws, but average for each area, just because it was easy to do)
I guess the second team guard is like the backup QB, all world until they actually play.
Does anyone actually watch the line play? There is no way one can explain it away and be satisfied with it. I watched the film and showed my wife the play when a guy just flat ran right by Piper.
I am not a defender of AM. I am.on record during his sophomore year pointing out problems. Yes, he is slow to read the D and react i.e. slow release. The O line couldn't give a consistent throwing lane for him as well with guys at his feet often.
The Buffalo D is going to bring it on Adrian, especially on our left side.
Someone explain to me why we are so gaga on 6'9" linemen? I looked at all of the O line mentioned in the NFL draft and none were that tall. Way too much is made of this.
The combination of AM's lack of vision and decision making combined with poor O line play is a recipe for problems.
Does anyone actually watch the line play? There is no way one can explain it away and be satisfied with it. I watched the film and showed my wife the play when a guy just flat ran right by Piper.
I am not a defender of AM. I am.on record during his sophomore year pointing out problems. Yes, he is slow to read the D and react i.e. slow release. The O line couldn't give a consistent throwing lane for him as well with guys at his feet often.
The Buffalo D is going to bring it on Adrian, especially on our left side.
Someone explain to me why we are so gaga on 6'9" linemen? I looked at all of the O line mentioned in the NFL draft and none were that tall. Way too much is made of this.
The combination of AM's lack of vision and decision making combined with poor O line play is a recipe for problems.
I don’t think people are gaga about 6’9”… it’s more about their rankings when recruited. 6’9” just happens to be part of the equation.
I agree with you.. There is of course this video..
Matt Hoskinson, (a walk on player here, and an admitted close friend of Scott) gives what appears to be a lot of excuses and thinks that the offensive line has figured out something against Fordham that could build on for the season.
I don't disagree with everything on this video, but the homerism is really strong.
Thanks for the video, it was good. I detected hesitancy in Hoskinson. He started to say good things about Austin, getting on players, etc but he never said he is teaching technique like Tenopir. He wasn't piling on the O line but he certainly wasn't overly enthusiastic. In fact, he talked about maybe finding something against Fordham. That would imply something was missing before.
When I get time, I will go back through it.
I thought the same thing about hesitancy. It was a decent mixture of criticism and praise. Matt seems to defend Austin to good degree, which makes me think he’s not really the odd man out if push comes to shove for Frost at the end of the season.
All I know is this young OL better figure out how to get 6 wins for Frost and Austin before the 3-game stretch of Ohio State, Wisconsin and Iowa.
No way, I have been told countless times on this board that starting true freshmen on the OL and DL is a fool's errand.
Zatechka on 590 today was similarly evasive. Sounded like he thinks they're making it too complicated for the O linemen and that they're thinking too much.
Zatechka certainly knows more than all of us combined. Interesting that I thought the first three games have been basic blocking schemes when I replay them back. Certainly not much pulling. That is what had me most concerned, a basic plan and still not performed well.
I don't think this offensive line starts to move any people until they replace Piper, Sichterman, and Benhardt. Those 3 are non physical, non pass or run blockers. Other than Piper, those other two are very slow footed.
Never gonna get Rimington out of the center position, but the best offensive line would be Teddy at LT, Cam at LG, Hickson at C, Nouli at RG, and Corcoran at RT. 3 are physical and have good feet.
Of course, the continued reps by the less than best player at a position has not deterred Frost yet.
Continuing to play players he "likes" versus what may be best for the team is one of the major reasons why I feel Frost will not succeed.
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