Big Mike sums up my feelings pretty good on this one
hey, village I looked for your thread but couldn't find it
hey, village I looked for your thread but couldn't find it
I'm with Big Mike
- Thread starter theBlues
- Start date
Don’t feel bad. I haven’t seen it in a while lol
He is right on 100%
Oops. I thought this was a Michelle Obama thread.
I’m telling you, we have some of the absolute WORST fans in the world. We also have some great fans as well. However, I get so tired of seeing how much people hate our coach and saying they wish he would be fired, blah blah blah. Take 3 starters of ANY team and I bet they’re in worse shape than we are currently.
Cowtown, you’re one of my absolute favorites on this board. That said, we all know that the main culprit of us having 2 of those 3 starters out is because Pope made the decision to spend big money on damaged goods. JQ is more understandable than JL because he’s a rare combo of freakish size and a lot of talent. JLowe otoh was always a huge gamble and one that he shouldn’t have taken whatsoever. We would’ve been so much better this year with a great pg and he has zero excuses for not landing one!
Our fans really aren’t different than most fanbases. We just have a ton more than anyone else.
So, what if we didn’t take the gamble, and he went to another SEC school and played at an elite level? Pope would’ve never heard the end of it. Furthermore, the season isn’t over yet. JQ might still play and make an impact. We had another PG signed and the dude went to Nova.
The whole losing 3 starters bs is a reach when we have had so many guys start.
This is just something the excuse makers are gonna use. That's fine and can't wait to see what excuse they make a year from now.
This is just something the excuse makers are gonna use. That's fine and can't wait to see what excuse they make a year from now.
I really hate the fans that watch a game on their phone at a family get together instead of waiting till you get home then telling everyone who won at the end.
The fans who care to miss a game or if they missed it won’t go back and watch it.
The fans who watch a game and we lose they quit watching. The fans whose opinion only matters to them and won’t listen to what you have to say.
Also the fans who don’t live and breath this shi who’s watched maybe 1 game this season but wanna say dumb shi like why can’t we just support everyone and cheer on our team.
The fans who care to miss a game or if they missed it won’t go back and watch it.
The fans who watch a game and we lose they quit watching. The fans whose opinion only matters to them and won’t listen to what you have to say.
Also the fans who don’t live and breath this shi who’s watched maybe 1 game this season but wanna say dumb shi like why can’t we just support everyone and cheer on our team.
But we've had so many guys start because of missing players who were counted on to start.
We didn't really look that good when all these missing guys were playing either. Poorly constructed roster..
They haven't played with a full roster but for 4 games, I think. Not enough to really gel.
You really just want to call out "the excuse makers."
Thanks for showing an actual video of how ignorant some of our "fans" are.
It's apparent you've not played team sports before. Teammates require time to develop chemistry on the court. You can't expect teammates to be perfectly in sync immediately without any prior experience playing with each other.
Today’s college landscape has very little continuity from team to team. There are plenty of teams in college basketball with players who are not familiar with each other that have been performing very well all year long. Our team has been very poorly coached this year, pope has looked like a deer in headlights many times during games this year. I thought pope would kill it at UK, I was wrong. It is only a matter of time before he gets replaced. He is not UK coach material.
As cowtown and I have said many times....take e of the top 8 from any team and see how well they do...IDC about your opinion of Pope, the fact is he is without 3 of his top 8. JQ was a gamble...but pope has no way of knowing jlowe would be injured in preseason. It's not his fault the other point guard decommitted beCause he was afraid of competition. You are letting your hate blind you to the facts. I think most people were ok with gamble on jq. What everyone is really upset with is the recruiting. I guarantee if he had a couple 5 stars signed for next year all this pope hate would be almost non-existent. I agree the recruiting and results on the court have been frustrating, but the hate for a coach that is doing a good job in a difficult situation is way over the top.
The team keeps winning and a lot of you keep complaining about the coach. What is wrong with you people ?
Agreed Cowtown, we had a nice pg (Acaden Lewis) signed and then he was recruited over when pope decided to take an already injured JLowe. I said Lowe was a bad take when we signed him and I stand by that. He’s NEVER shot the ball well and isn’t athletic at all. What did pope see that was soooo great? My point is that we are UK and we should not and can not settle for for the Lowe’s of college ball! Sign the elite and or extremely proven and not already damaged players! You would think he would’ve been gun shy on the guys with shoulder injuries after Lamont. Instead, he doubled down on stupid.
Injuries happen to EVERY TEAM! They’re not exclusive to UK. We have been hit harder than most but that’s never gonna be a good excuse. It’s next man up and pope is in charge of making damn sure that that next man up is ready! Again, this is UK, not Kent st. He has all the money, resources, and clout to land anyone we go after! It’s on him to do it and it wasn’t done even close to right this season!
Lowe did not have a pre-existing shoulder injury as you are asserting when he was signed.
You do realize we are winning against the bottom of the SEC don’t you? We have played 3 teams in the SEC with a .500 conference record or better and we are 1-2 in those 3 games.
If im not mistaken it was jlowes father himself that said this in s interview with our media. I’ll do my best to try and find that interview and post it.
I wasn’t big on the Lowe signing either. I think Pope wanted a veteran to pair with Lewis. IMO, Pope thought that Lowe’s efficiency would increase by playing with better players than he played with at Pitt. He thought his shooting numbers would also increase.
Slow down. Maybe even read this aloud if it helps you. One of those “starters” was signed knowing he might not be able to play or contribute much of the year. It’s disingenuous to call him a starter. Another of those “starters” was basically unplayable for about 10-12 games. The one starter that kinda/sorta matters was the 3rd team all ACC guard that couldn’t defend you. We heard all offseason how deep this is. Now they’re getting the chance to prove it.
In a weird way, I think some of these injuries have saved Pope from himself. He tries to play too many in the rotation and guys struggle to find their roles. He doesn’t have that option now. He’s got 8 dudes that have a very specific role that’s hard to argue with. He’s got a 9th (Noah) that should be able to hold the fort down in the event of foul trouble. This team was never going to be great, no matter the BS that was spewed in the summer. But honestly, these 8 are good enough to at least make the tourney. Seems about average for a Pope coached team.
No, we’ve had so many guys start because our coach can’t seem to pick which mid option to go with. Garrison and MO aren’t not starting because they got hurt. Kam wasn’t not starting (or playing for that matter) early in the season because he was hurt. Root cause is because none of those guys were especially good.
Okay, so we’ve been down a starting PG off and on all season. Then, Mo D was injured and out for several games. JQ played like 4/5 games total. Now we have Williams out, which is a killer IMO. Point is, we’ve had guys in and out of the lineup from day one. Hard to have defined roles and continuity that way. Roles have been changing from game to game.
Still could play hard. Still could game plan. You just miss why people are upset. It's not the losses alone. We even play poorly in wins.
No one can watch this team and say it's well coached.
Winning is great but it also masks problems to many. We can't keep winning playing like we are.
No, when Lowe went out, he has had to try several at running point. When that happens, they along with others start playing out of position. It became trial and error, mixing them around to find where each could at least contribute or develop comfort at position. But you have your opinion and it isn't changing.
How a team plays also is determined by the how the other team plays. I don't miss why you and a few others are upset. You hate the coach. period. Win or lose, you complain.
Who the hell else would a competent coach try at PG on this roster? If Lowe isn’t available, Aberdeen is PG1 and Jasper is PG2. You might not like it, but those are the options. Anyone that sees that differently is just clueless.
Listen, I was just pointing out that losing the only point guard before game 1 put several or of position. Of course he tried those guys, but that puts them and others out of position. Then it is trial and error getting line ups to work in the middle of big games at the start of the season.
All this was just my answer to complaints about multiple line ups.
But you are a high school assistant coach and I'm not. Plus you are very condescending. Doesn't make you right.
About a month ago, Big Mike was one of those fans.........
Condescending or no, he shouldn’t have had to try multiple lineups. He knew once Lewis left that Aberdeen was the backup to Lowe and JJ was behind that. If he didn’t, that’s bad coaching. Trying to play Chandler in that spot is just silly. That said, it seems to have worked itself out. I think what he’s doing now is spot on with the rotation. Sorry if I was condescending to you. Not my intent. It’s just super frustrating when it’s evident to a ton of people, but Pope just kept trying to put people in positions they weren’t capable of being successful. Chandler at PG, Garrison as the starting 5 getting big minutes, and MO starting and getting major mins at the 4. All seemed like a huge stretch and ultimately was the wrong call. Hopefully he’s settled on what we are seeing now. I still don’t think the team is great, but at least what he’s doing now gives them the opportunity to be the best version of themselves. That’s the key moving forward.
you didnt notice during this 5 game stretch Mo is playing the 4 and BG is playing the 5 .
For sure. But both are in backup roles with Moreno getting most of the mins at the 5 and MO getting equalish mins with Jelavich. MO’s playing time moving forward is obviously matchup dependent. Jelavich is much better for the offense, but against physical teams MO is going to have to play more mins. That’s what I meant about the rotation looking correct now.
No, it wasn't near that long lol; Big Mike is like a lot of us, joyful when we win and melting down when we lose.
Last edited: