That Ryan Day he took over Ohio States and he has his guys running through walls and he got a new qb who is a yungin and he got them rollin'. How come that HCSF can't get our boys rollin' in the same way, HCSF he makes more money too and he been here at Nebraskie longer. I want the Huskers to be like the Buck I's. How come we aint?
If Ryan Day can do it why can't HCSF
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"if he wins 7 this year it would probably be a big setback in reality" Pre 2019 season
"Recruiting wise we are a top 25 team."
"8 bad teams on the schedule...we are as talented as all of them and have better coaches" pre 2018
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I feel so honored that you not only went through my posting history of 5000 posts, and pulled out all phrases that support your hypothesis, context free of course, but then saved them in a document on your computer titled "Solana's Quotes", just waiting to spam them whenever I make an argument against petulant little men. Thank you...
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I feel so honored that you not only went through my posting history of 5000 posts, and pulled out all phrases that support your hypothesis, context free of course, but then saved them in a document on your computer titled "Solana's Quotes", just waiting to spam them whenever I make an argument against petulant little men. Thank you...
Those are excuses...good fans don't except excuses....I have highest expectations for my team.
As a super fan I also determine when an opponent is inferior to my team, especially after 1 week...I look at the helmet and this tells me that my team is superior to their team..and then if my team loses I am mad because I knew my team was better and more mad because they shouldn't have even played the game since I knew my team was better...
you're darn right I'm going to call out a fraud who comes on here proclaiming - after the fact - that anyone with any critical thinking skills, like them, could see this team was going to really struggle when it's the complete opposite of what they were preaching prior to each of the last 2 seasons
Yes and if we lose today, I'm gonna be super madder than last week. I spose you could then call me, super maddest.
Look at the horses on the OSU football team compared to what we have in Lincoln. Many here won’t admit or believe it but the talent disparity is huge.
"if he wins 7 this year it would probably be a big setback in reality"
I'll just explain this comment. Last year we had 5 tough road games...4 against top 25 teams....we were 1-5 in toss up games. We could have easily won 6-7-8 games last year, a year that most people would describe as a throwaway. This year because of schedule we could win 7 games and actually regress in "reality", reality is the combination of parameters that describe the team as a whole...not just wins and losses. If the team really progressed from last year we should actually win 9 or so. I didn't say I expect us to progress because I understood that we lost a lot of talent and leaders relative to the rest of our upperclassmen. Do you remember who played Clemson last year in the playoff? I didn't either. Do you know why? Because it was a team that won a ton of close games, wasn't that great, and was proven a fraud against an actual solid team. A team is more than just random wins and losses. A record can be determined by road/away, injuries to key positions, bye weeks, etc. I expect us to win 7 or or 8 but also do not expect major improvement over last year when it comes to the actual quality of the team. I probably didn't fully understand the roster issues associated with the junior class, as it is horrible and that is a mistake that I overlooked. The reason for optimism for this team stemmed from the schedule not because they had an injection of talent or are appreciably better. And 7-10 wins doesn't really matter. The only thing that ultimately matters is the team builds so it can win 11-14 games in the future. We aren't anywhere near that so all the hand wringing about 4 wins vs. 7 is pointless.
There is a very fine line between excuses and relevant facts... fans that ignore relevant facts are the very fans that wanted to can Tom before he won here... it’s no excuse to say that OSU has better talent, that is a fact... there are no excuses that should be made for frost if we don’t see improvement... after the lose to Colorado I had to force myself to stay off this board because I knew there’d be too many retards demanding frost be fired or claiming how in competent he is... the truth is, (the facts) are we are a young team trying to deal with a ton of turnover from the previous staff... as much as we want /wanted this to be a quick change in culture and start winning as of last year, this is going to take patience, and true fans aka “super fans” understand and see that difference...
yes frost still has learning to do but you will see day will have to learn some too, the difference is we don’t have the talent to hide the coaching mess ups right now, they do
great spin ... now could you explain how (according to your proclamations) we had more talent than 8 teams on our schedule in 2018 AND better coaching but came away with 4 wins . ... I'll hang up and listen
We (me included) seem to have an inflated sense of how good this team was to start the year. We weren’t 4-8 the last 2 years and n accident.. this team is going to take a couple more years to really roll, but I waited 20+ years for Osborne to win games that matter so I think I can wait a couple more for Frost...
But...but... our recruiting stars. On paper we are supposed to be really really good
Absolutely is, and the way tOSU is train wrecking every one, in three weeks Nebraska will be just another car waiting on the tracks.
But...but... our recruiting stars. On paper we are supposed to be really really good
Really though, whats the differences between a team ranked in the mid-20s in recruiting and a team ranked in the 50s or 60s??? A few 4 stars??? Both classes are a majority of 3 stars who need to be developed. Unless youre CONSISTANTLEY recruiting in the top 10 maybe 15 (year after year) it really doesn't matter. And with the wild wild west in regards to transferring, the class rankings from 2 or 3 years ago arent a good measurement in trying to determine who should have won a game....
When you are handed the keys to a Ferrari it might take a year or two before you wrap it around a telephone pole.
This is what I said about your critical thinking. Or maybe just misunderstanding. Adrian is the one of most talented qbs in the conference, Wandale and Mo are some of the most talented backs in the conference. JD is one of the more talented WRs...Cam Taylor and Cam Jurgens are two of the most talented players at their positions. Outside of JD though they are all 18 or 19...and the junior and senior class around them is VERY POOR. So yes, our young talent is very good and with good senior leaders would really flourish. Except they are the leaders...Cam Taylor is the leader of the defense...at 19, Adrian is the leader of the offense at 19...so a team can be talented but play like basket cases because they don't have upperclass leadership and are young. One of our captains is a transfer from a bad defense who walked on campus and became the leader of the defensive line...although we have multiple guys on that line that have been here for their whole careers. That should tell you something. There is no point in addressing 2018...the team won 4 games, had six toss-up games and finished with 1-5 record in those. We had no scholarship qb and a defense from the year before that gave up 56 ppg in their last 4, and was 120th in the nation in total defense. Frost somehow got a true freshman who hadn't played since he was a junior to become a freshman all-american, somehow got a grade casualty who was 170 pounds to be one of our main contributors. And he nearly beat Ohio state, NW, Iowa on the road. The funny thing, had he beaten Ohio state, NW, Iowa it wouldn't change the trajectory of our program...he would have finished 7-5 but we would be the same team regardless.
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The OP has to be a troll, because the comparison he is making is utterly moronic. I can’t believe he really thinks such a comparison holds any weight whatsoever.
Because Ryan Day followed The Legend that is UBAN MEYER. Frost followed Bo Bo and his insane clown posse, and Eichorst, and the worst D1 coach ever in Mike Reilly.
GEZZUS PETES people Nebraska was a freaking dumpster fire before Frost got here. If he hasn't built something by year 5 then start bitching. Until then STFU
Husker fans are unbearable.
GEZZUS PETES people Nebraska was a freaking dumpster fire before Frost got here. If he hasn't built something by year 5 then start bitching. Until then STFU
Husker fans are unbearable.
We paid 5 million for each win against a top 25 team during the Bo Pelini era....and about 7 million per top 25 win in the Riley era...if Frost can beat that and he is nice and respectful ....we'll keep him
Maybe, just maybe, Day inherited a boatload of talent. Here are the 247 Composite ROSTER recruiting ratings for 2019 based on their previous team recruiting rankings. To say OSU is loaded is an understatement. There's Alabama, OSU, and Georgia then everyone else.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/
I like the realism in your post....but I do have to tell you that, as far as the projected depth charts were concerned heading into the Colorado-Nebraska game, Colorado had more guys in their starting 22 that were RS Sophs and younger (I believe it was 9 for CU to 5 for Nebraska).
I'd agree with you that there doesn't need to be the talk about canning him, but as someone with no skin in the game (a guy that grew up in CO supporting Colorado and Air Force through the good and the bad....living in the great state of Nebraska...UNK grad...with the Buffs being a team I didn't play on at a school I didn't attend), I don't think Frost is going to be the savior many painted him to be when he was hired. I think he get's you 9-10 wins a season once he gets on track, with occasionally playing for a conference title. I guess the question is whether or not that's good enough.
And to clarify...Colorado and Air Force last played each other when I was 18 months old. It was very possible to be a fan of both growing up.
Scott did turn over the roster almost completely in the last 2 years. These are his guys he recruited. Is the talent disparity really that huge? if so, then why did he recruit these guys or is his recruiting suspect?
I think it is. If the talent disparity isn’t huge then why do we lose to Colorado and get beat up at the Los by S. Alabama? I don’t see the Buckeyes getting handled on the line by either and they would destroy both.
I guess we will see when the all Big Ten teams are announced at season’s end and how many Huskers are on them.
It's called the recruiting advantage - both the talent inherited from Urban's past recruiting classes AND the natural recruiting advantage that Ohio State has. Not saying Frost won't get there BUT to get there he will have to work a lot harder than Day to overcome that natural recruiting disadvantage.
The coaching transition also was more natural at Ohio State not having to completely change the culture with Day being an in house promotion.