Maybe Dave had good info and the kid just changed his mind when he visited OSU? Who cares? We have a great recruiting class coming in next year. If he was trolling UK with the way he announced, karma will come when he is watching the Big Dance from his dorm room in the middle of nowhere
I think we got him
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Well, you know, this is the loophole these supposed "insiders" always fall back on. They take the credit when their predictions hit, but claim "well, something changed at the last minute!" when they miss. It's a nice little trick to avoid ever having to concede you were just plain wrong.
It's also BS. If you're gonna take credit for being right, then you better also be prepared to take the heat when you're wrong. Dave got folks hopes way up in recent weeks ..even had quite a few here counting that chicken before it hatched ...only to be let down in the end.
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This is why we need downvotes on here....
Guy posts his info in a thread titled I THINK we got him. Agreeing with recruiting analysts as well, and then we abuse him when a 18 kid decides to support his brother.
Message board anonymity at it's finest
The blowback is about a lot more than the thread title here. FWIW. Maybe you missed some of the other posts.
No, not really. Dave was pretty sure, I was pretty sure, Cal was pretty sure (or he wouldn't have blew off the boosters), even one of the best in the business Evan Daniels was pretty sure. Most UK fans who follow recruiting thought we had him.
There is no need to bash someone over that. People love to be negative and insult others. I guess it makes them feel superior or something.
I think downvotes are a terrible idea; in it's purest form, it would not be. People would just downvote posts they do not agree with, even if it's completely valid. Anyone that says "Louisville has some talent" would be downvoted to hell. Do we really need more of the Groupthink/Herd mentality on here? If each poster was allowed a certain number of upvotes and downvotes each day, or was penalized themselves for excessive downvoting, then it might work. While I do not GAF whether people "like" my posts or not, I'm just throwing in my 0.02.
The done deal stuff should stop regardless if someone has inside info because players do change their mind a lot and sometimes at the last minute, we just went through this recently with Mcdaniels and Blackshear. Why not just say you think that we are leading and leave it at that? The done deals always seem to backfire.
Well this was a massive troll job I never thought this kid was heading anywhere but okie St
This thread was a colossal fail. Not as bad as the "write it in blood" thread years ago from that Greg dork for Thaddeus Young, Brandon Wright and a few others. But a pretty close second.
I appreciate Kersey going big or going home but when it doesn't come true, you need take your medicine.
I appreciate Kersey going big or going home but when it doesn't come true, you need take your medicine.
Keep firing Dave! You’ll get one right and we will all say Dave has connections! Yay!
Cade's decision to cuck out might open the door for IQ/Juzang to return now.
They won't have to worry about Cade getting 30-35 minutes a game at the 1-3 spots.
I'd still rather have Cade, but this alternative looks pretty amazing.
Those folks should either quit following the fickle world of recruiting or quit "getting their hopes way up" over everything they read.
Dave wasn't alone.
Are folks willing to also take shots at Daniels, Graf, Pilgrim, Meyer, Sisk, and maybe even "Mr. shssh emoji", Joel Justus?
Kersey was merely following a stream of growing consensus. He wasn't the anomaly. I want to make it clear I'm not a fan boy here but we willfully drank the Kool-Aid after following a narrative, initially created by Cal, that he was not going to allow UK to be a "hat on a table." Thus, we assumed we had a shot at Cade because Cal was openly jettisoning elite players left and right. And ultimately maybe we did have a shot, but the reality is that it was probably never more than a slight consideration for Cade picking Kentucky. He said he was "this close" to picking another school, but my bet would be that "this close" means that UK might have only taken up token consideration when the real crux of the Cunningham decision was addressed.
Cannen was brought in solely to land Cade. We desperately wanted to outflank this reality - and used every logical tool in our arsenal, from Maxey's dad's situation as an example to the "hats on the table" logic - but we drank down the Kool-Aid. Dave merely gave us more articulation to what we already wanted to believe.
The naivety is on us, myself included. We should own it and move on.
Are folks willing to also take shots at Daniels, Graf, Pilgrim, Meyer, Sisk, and maybe even "Mr. shssh emoji", Joel Justus?
Kersey was merely following a stream of growing consensus. He wasn't the anomaly. I want to make it clear I'm not a fan boy here but we willfully drank the Kool-Aid after following a narrative, initially created by Cal, that he was not going to allow UK to be a "hat on a table." Thus, we assumed we had a shot at Cade because Cal was openly jettisoning elite players left and right. And ultimately maybe we did have a shot, but the reality is that it was probably never more than a slight consideration for Cade picking Kentucky. He said he was "this close" to picking another school, but my bet would be that "this close" means that UK might have only taken up token consideration when the real crux of the Cunningham decision was addressed.
Cannen was brought in solely to land Cade. We desperately wanted to outflank this reality - and used every logical tool in our arsenal, from Maxey's dad's situation as an example to the "hats on the table" logic - but we drank down the Kool-Aid. Dave merely gave us more articulation to what we already wanted to believe.
The naivety is on us, myself included. We should own it and move on.
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The thing about recruiting is what is true today is a lie tomorrow.
I'm over it before it happened.
Next.
I'm over it before it happened.
Next.
Hey Man, the guys that get paid big money by the networks to be ''insiders'' are wrong as often as they are right. I don't get all the hostility towards Dave or Cade either for that matter. Terrible choice IMO but other than that, I couldn't give a squirt. Cal will put a team on the floor with a legit shot to win it all this year and next either way
What part of "think" do people not comprehend? Noone said what would happen. Only what they were hearing and what they thought would happen.
It ain't that hard if you actually read what is actually said rather than infer what you want it to say
It ain't that hard if you actually read what is actually said rather than infer what you want it to say
i'll wait for the sources say podcast to see what they say before i believe he committed. LMAO
well for sure I was wrong big time on this one I did swing for the fences and by golly that ball was damn near over the fence only to have it grabbed above the wall anyway that's the first time I've been that bad wrong in over a decade I was correct in saying McDaniels would stay at home I was also correct in saying that Blackshear was going to head to either Tennessee or Florida although some of you seems to be wrong on purpose and blaming me for Blackshear and then again I was right on Askew and was the first one to call Clarke but how soon you forget when it's convenient for you. I apologize for leading you on I didn't think I was I thought we had him so did Joel Justus my contact and my AAU buddy as well as UNC and OSU people like me thinking we had him as well so goodbye
Makes me curious if we really was leaning U.K. ... and truly did just have a change of heart. But then, OSU people say he was a done deal from the moment they hired his brother.
Who knows ... but @davekersey clearly heard from enough pro-UK people he did think they had him...
The Cunningham recruitment reminds me of Day Two at Gettysburg for Lee's Army.
Lot's of "what ifs" and "if onlys" that ultimately couldn't negate who actually possessed the high ground. Flanking maneuvers sound great on paper, but the reality of Cannen's presence was the equivalent of deeply entrenched high ground and no amount of tactical genius was going to eliminated that fact.
The only thing that was going to land us Cade was if Cannen was at Kentucky somehow, and evidently the UK staff is above that.
Lot's of "what ifs" and "if onlys" that ultimately couldn't negate who actually possessed the high ground. Flanking maneuvers sound great on paper, but the reality of Cannen's presence was the equivalent of deeply entrenched high ground and no amount of tactical genius was going to eliminated that fact.
The only thing that was going to land us Cade was if Cannen was at Kentucky somehow, and evidently the UK staff is above that.
No Dave we didn't ...............you don't know what your talking about. EVER
I truly think Cade very seriously considered UK. And I understand things change in recruiting. I think Dave did get info from some people in the situation. But for people who do talk to people around the players or school, unless they say something along the lines of "he gave us a commitment, but will announce later", or something very concrete along those lines, not just based on how you interpret a visit, I would not make guarantees and tell people to get lotion out, It is Great day for UK fans, It is a Shasta night, or any other kind of misleading quotes. Now, I know Dave's intentions are good, he did not post to string UK fans along. BUT if you are going to make post and wording them as "done deals", you had better have solid and accurate info, not the BS kids change their minds'. If you are basing your herro post on assumptions, make it known. Remember, there is a chance when you ASSUME something, it ends up making a *** out of U and ME.
You being the *** who posted such lock info, and ME for taking it as such and being gullible. Once again, it was not intentional to mislead UK fans, just a little over zealous in your info.
You being the *** who posted such lock info, and ME for taking it as such and being gullible. Once again, it was not intentional to mislead UK fans, just a little over zealous in your info.
too much abuse. Happens here more than anywhere else. I gotta quit. Gave it my all on this one...came up short. Go back to your fields knowing you don't have to put up with me anymore.
I don’t know why any source(s) would mislead so specifically as to a date and time the announcement would be on ESPN. That is just plain y tu Brute’
Don't go, brother. The brutal posters here must have their scapegoat today because actually owning their own naivety would be too much to ask.
We were just too excited to have the super team with the best possible player at each position and achieve the impossible season that Coach has eluded too
I’ve been too busy rewatching Maxey’s dagger to care about this.
We do it every year. Remember the Bamba/Young/Knox and Barrett/Shittu/Zion roster projections of ages past?
Our fans - myself included - are desperate to see Calipari and our trust in Calipari vindicated at the highest possible level. Recruiting is still at an elite level, but it's no longer the insane video game level stuff we saw back in the beginning of the Cal Era. This has troubled and somewhat frustrated many of our fans. So, when daylight started to emerge in regards to Cade and the notion of CC joining Clarke began to be described as a real possibility, many of us jumped onto the roster projection bandwagon.
We took the Clarke commitment, and his desire to be challenged at UK, and used it as the new norm regarding the mentalities of the "best of the best" level kids. Perhaps the reality is that Clarke's mentality appears to still be a modern anomaly in the current basketball culture of many elite kids not appearing to give a damn about winning on the college level, being challenged by a HOF coach, or expanding personal brand.
Many of them, if given the chance, would rather take the road of mental cuckery and chase their big brothers/mentors to places like OSU, LSU, Texas and Memphis, or hide from competition at schools like Washington, Mississippi State, UNLV and California.
They think they know better than sages like Calipari. Their circles of influence think they know better as well. And then we see a guy like Markelle Fultz just one bad season away from joining Stephen Zimmerman, Malik Newman and Anthony Bennett in the Indochina league while guys like Jaylen Brown and Andrew Wiggins peak before they're 25 years old.
Meanwhile, Calipari guys like MKG and Brandon Knight, lacking in either overall skillsets (MKG's offense) or athleticism (Brandon Knight), are still chipping away through NBA careers that are going on nine years and eight years, respectively.
People can point to a guy like MKG and call him a bust because of his draft position, but the reality is that Calipari took a decent high-energy wing player, who completely lacked a jump shot, and turned him into a #2 pick and player who is now entering his 8th NBA season.
The nuance in the narrative is important here. Calipari gets the absolute most out of every single player he coaches. The Cade Cunninghams of the world, and their naive circles of influence, are too shortsighted to notice this crucial fact.
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If you can’t take the heat stay out of the kitchen.
Don’t think this was about family at all, just the excuse. IMO CC wants to be the big fish in a small pond rather than just another fish in something bigger than himself.
Kentucky is not for everyone because Cal won’t cater to YOU
Don’t think this was about family at all, just the excuse. IMO CC wants to be the big fish in a small pond rather than just another fish in something bigger than himself.
Kentucky is not for everyone because Cal won’t cater to YOU
If you're gonna post like you did, you better be right.
You portrayed it as a sure thing and even said he would announce that night or next at the latest. Don't play the victim.
Not trying to be rude, but you're acting as if you did nothing to deserve this backlash.
None of your "info" was accurate.
I enjoy your posts, but you messed up here and just have to accept it and move forward.
Playing the victim does you no favors imo.
you don’t know that 100%. He also looked like a complete dork so you’d think he would know the obv choice for his future is UK. Keep in mind duke already has like 2 commits for his position
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