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Wildcatfootball12

Sophomore
Sep 3, 2011
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Given our coaching staff's bizarre hatred for him, I bet we see an OR on the depth chart next weekend

Fitz could write a book called "How to break a 5 star quarterback in 10 games"
 

NJCat

All-Conference
Mar 7, 2016
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Given our coaching staff's bizarre hatred for him, I bet we see an OR on the depth chart next weekend
We'll find out tomorrow.

Not sure how you arrive at the conclusion the staff hate HJ, he was pulled for non-performance (just like a young CT was with Zack Oliver) in one game and got injured in a second. Hunter hasn't exactly lit up the scoreboard.
 

willycat

Junior
Jan 11, 2005
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We'll find out tomorrow.

Not sure how you arrive at the conclusion the staff hate HJ, he was pulled for non-performance (just like a young CT was with Zack Oliver) in one game and got injured in a second. Hunter hasn't exactly lit up the scoreboard.
Who has?
 

IGNORE

Redshirt
Jan 15, 2019
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McCall doesn’t miss blocks, misread the defense, not get separation, jump offsides, block in the back or drop passes.

But he finds, develops and plays the guys that do. He also employs the guys that are supposed to teach the players to play.

#accoutability
 

TejasCat

Sophomore
Apr 5, 2010
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McCall doesn’t miss blocks, misread the defense, not get separation, jump offsides, block in the back or drop passes.

excuses, excuses, excuses, worse than my kids, these people who continually defend McCall with the nonsense that its always someone's else fault. Go look at our offensive statistics (which are getting worse every year) the last 5-6 years, ITS MORE THAN JUST THE PLAYERS. There is a common component beyond the players over the last 5-6 years.
 

heet75

Redshirt
Jun 5, 2001
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excuses, excuses, excuses, worse than my kids, these people who continually defend McCall with the nonsense that its always someone's else fault. Go look at our offensive statistics (which are getting worse every year) the last 5-6 years, ITS MORE THAN JUST THE PLAYERS. There is a common component beyond the players over the last 5-6 years.
HOW IN THE WORLD DID WE EVER WIN THE WEST LAST YEAR WITH SUCH INCOMPETENCE
 

chrisnw

Redshirt
Jun 11, 2010
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HOW IN THE WORLD DID WE EVER WIN THE WEST LAST YEAR WITH SUCH INCOMPETENCE

NU won their division because for the first time since the Big Ten went to divisional play, everyone else in their division had 4 or more losses.
 

heet75

Redshirt
Jun 5, 2001
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NU won their division because for the first time since the Big Ten went to divisional play, everyone else in their division had 4 or more losses.
And we beat them all!!! Is that not important
 

Purple Pile Driver

All-Conference
May 14, 2014
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NU won their division because for the first time since the Big Ten went to divisional play, everyone else in their division had 4 or more losses.
Huh. NU was undefeated in the West and 8-1 in the B1G. They could have had 1 loss and NU would have won the division. So that is called winning the division by 3 games.
 

chrisnw

Redshirt
Jun 11, 2010
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Huh. NU was undefeated in the West and 8-1 in the B1G. They could have had 1 loss and NU would have won the division. So that is called winning the division by 3 games.
Then surely since NU was that dominant they must have won the conference championship, because Ohio State only tied their division.
 

Purple Pile Driver

All-Conference
May 14, 2014
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Then surely since NU was that dominant they must have won the conference championship, because Ohio State only tied their division.
Looks like we have another new guy that signs up pretending to 1) know what he is talking about or 2) comes from another fan base.

Where did anyone say NU was dominant. You aren’t bright for a NU guy. Just calling out a ridiculous post that somehow claims NU won the division because everyone else lost 4. Again, another team could have lost 1 game in the Big Ten and NU wins the West.
 

Hungry Jack

All-Conference
Nov 17, 2008
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Looks like we have another new guy that signs up pretending to 1) know what he is talking about or 2) comes from another fan base.

Where did anyone say NU was dominant. You aren’t bright for a NU guy. Just calling out a ridiculous post that somehow claims NU won the division because everyone else lost 4. Again, another team could have lost 1 game in the Big Ten and NU wins the West.
He’s not an NU guy. He’s a NW guy. Ersatz poster.
 

hdhntr1

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2006
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We'll find out tomorrow.

Not sure how you arrive at the conclusion the staff hate HJ, he was pulled for non-performance (just like a young CT was with Zack Oliver) in one game and got injured in a second. Hunter hasn't exactly lit up the scoreboard.
There was a plan in the first game to get both QBs playing time. In game three, it was likely to protect him in a lost game and give the backup a chance to get some snaps
 

hdhntr1

All-Conference
Sep 5, 2006
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But he finds, develops and plays the guys that do. He also employs the guys that are supposed to teach the players to play.

#accoutability
Many of the problems have been on the OL and we are starting 3 new guys and an new OL system which they have had limited experience with. The guys we have now were recruited and trained by the old OL coach. Growing pains are not unexpected. One RB has been dinged and less effective and the backup, while he has shown signs of being effective as a runner, has missed a couple blocks that have hurt us. It is more of a group fail
 

phatcat_rivals223240

All-Conference
Nov 5, 2001
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Many of the problems have been on the OL and we are starting 3 new guys and an new OL system which they have had limited experience with. The guys we have now were recruited and trained by the old OL coach. Growing pains are not unexpected. One RB has been dinged and less effective and the backup, while he has shown signs of being effective as a runner, has missed a couple blocks that have hurt us. It is more of a group fail
"Competitive depth"...
 

Curdog7

Freshman
Jun 22, 2001
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HOW IN THE WORLD DID WE EVER WIN THE WEST LAST YEAR WITH SUCH INCOMPETENCE
This is completely nonsensical. If NU won every game 2-0 would you be happy with the offense? Wins and losses don’t begin to tell the story of the incompetence on offense for years and years. And some people still blame the players....
 

heet75

Redshirt
Jun 5, 2001
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Being a defensive guy I would take an undefeated season never giving up a point...like my defensive coach always said...if you don't give up any points you can't lose.
 

stpaulcat

Senior
May 29, 2001
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Being a defensive guy I would take an undefeated season never giving up a point...like my defensive coach always said...if you don't give up any points you can't lose.
Except NU's offense gave up 14 points, thus destroying your theory.
 

heet75

Redshirt
Jun 5, 2001
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Except NU's offense gave up 14 points, thus destroying your theory.
I suppose we could just take a knee on offense and hope our defense gets a turnover close enough to kick a field goal or a pick 6 or scoop and score
 

stpaulcat

Senior
May 29, 2001
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I suppose we could just take a knee on offense and hope our defense gets a turnover close enough to kick a field goal or a pick 6 or scoop and score
You don't need to take a knee if you can make a play rather than turning the ball over (twice).
 

Gladeskat

All-Conference
Feb 16, 2004
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But he finds, develops and plays the guys that do. He also employs the guys that are supposed to teach the players to play.

#accoutability

What? How about holding the players accountable or is that too radical for you? After all, it's their team. Coaches don't play. Yes, ultimately the coaches are held accountable for wins and losses.

Did you ever blame your dive coach when you messed up and belly-flopped off the 10-meter board? I cannot recall any instance where a coach was responsible for my screw-ups. Any mistakes were entirely my own and not some coach's fault.
 

IGNORE

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Jan 15, 2019
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What? How about holding the players accountable or is that too radical for you? After all, it's their team. Coaches don't play. Yes, ultimately the coaches are held accountable for wins and losses.

Did you ever blame your dive coach when you messed up and belly-flopped off the 10-meter board? I cannot recall any instance where a coach was responsible for my screw-ups. Any mistakes were entirely my own and not some coach's fault.

Sure, fire the players. But after year after year of terrible O, fire the guy that picks the players, the develops the players and that plans for the players in the games.

Players come and go. The O sucks and the coaches are the same.
 

phatcat_rivals223240

All-Conference
Nov 5, 2001
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Sure, fire the players. But after year after year of terrible O, fire the guy that picks the players, the develops the players and that plans for the players in the games.

Players come and go. The O sucks and the coaches are the same.
This is what it boils down to. The worst boss I ever had gave me one amazing kernel of wisdom. I had about 12 people on my team at the time, and he was talking to all of the senior leaders. words to the effect of "if our people do not meet their goals it is because we have failed them as leaders". Powerful, succinct, true. Now, you can decide if a person (player) is a non-performer and fire (bench) them, but if you put them 'in the game', you need to be sure they have the resources, training, guidance, coaching, understanding, and support to succeed.

Tell me, why otherwise would a smart, dedicated, well-trained NU athlete fail? Lazy? incompetent?

We are a very "Borg-like" team. We don't have a lot of flashy stars, just, when successful, a bunch of guys that do their job and don't mess up. to me, that is 100.00% the credit to the coaches, and when it ISN"T working, it is their responsibility.

Now, perhaps there is some tacit limitation like 'we can't get the best players so we do the best we can with less talented people', but that sure isn't the message out of Evanston.