Hungary Election

firegiver

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Lady, all you do is whine on here. You add absolutely nothing.
“You make more money than me”
“All you care about is trolling”
Jesus, man tf up and quit being such a little b!tch
I make more money than you? yah probably.
Why are you so insecure on here? Like your entire personality is that you can't think for yourself so you just attempt and fail at trolling folks. If you are a troll, you do it so badly I just assume you are serious and thus a very dumb person.
 
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JohnHughsPartner

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I make more money than you? yah probably.
Why are you so insecure on here? Like your entire personality is that you can't think for yourself so you just attempt and fail at trolling folks. If you are a troll, you do it so badly I just assume you are serious and thus a very dumb person.
You’re a limp retard that apparently has no clue what quotations are. Go back to b!tching in the tax thread about how poor and pathetic you are
 

GDead_Tiger

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You and I don’t see eye to eye sometimes, but I want to say thanks for keeping it real here. It’s ridiculous how many of the American left cheerleaders act as if they’re moderates or center right. Just call it what it is. You can’t be anti voter ID, pro open borders, pro child sex change, pro men in women’s rooms and call yourself moderate. 80% + of the country has spoken, definitively, on those positions. They’re not center or even center left positions, they’re radical. And the majority of democrats support those things, like full throated support.
Oh I think you have me mistaken. I see the Democrats as to the left of their European counterparts as a good thing.

I absolutely do not think 80% of the country has spoken on those issues, let alone definitively. You would have opposed desegregation by saying "well lots of white southerners oppose it." Many tens of millions of Americans disagree with you. Democrats aren't just a handful of elected officials, they're tens of millions of normal Americans.

The framing on some of thee issues is slanted and a lot of Americans are pretty stupid and don't know what they're talking about.

-Voter ID is a non-issue because voter fraud is incredibly rare and is always caught. Voter ID laws serve as a modern poll tax to disenfranchise voters. If everyone got a government issued ID that was easy to replace, then sure.

-You have no idea what gender transition entails for kids. There is no surgery involved until the reach 18. At most they get puberty blockers. All of this involves an arduous process in consultation with the family and many doctors. The idea that kids are getting surgery about this is ludicrously false.

-There are maybe 10 transwomen competing in women's collegiate sports. It is a complete non-issue. There has only ever been 1 transwoman to compete in the Olympics and she didn't even come close to medaling. Everyone imagines like contact sports or racing, but this also includes stuff like darts, pool, chess, etc. Like I said, complete non-issue.

You say these issues are settled. If/when the Dems win back the House this fall, potentially the Senate, and then the White House in 2028 what will you say.
 

tboonpickens

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Oh I think you have me mistaken. I see the Democrats as to the left of their European counterparts as a good thing.

I absolutely do not think 80% of the country has spoken on those issues, let alone definitively. You would have opposed desegregation by saying "well lots of white southerners oppose it." Many tens of millions of Americans disagree with you. Democrats aren't just a handful of elected officials, they're tens of millions of normal Americans.

The framing on some of thee issues is slanted and a lot of Americans are pretty stupid and don't know what they're talking about.

-Voter ID is a non-issue because voter fraud is incredibly rare and is always caught. Voter ID laws serve as a modern poll tax to disenfranchise voters. If everyone got a government issued ID that was easy to replace, then sure.

-You have no idea what gender transition entails for kids. There is no surgery involved until the reach 18. At most they get puberty blockers. All of this involves an arduous process in consultation with the family and many doctors. The idea that kids are getting surgery about this is ludicrously false.

-There are maybe 10 transwomen competing in women's collegiate sports. It is a complete non-issue. There has only ever been 1 transwoman to compete in the Olympics and she didn't even come close to medaling. Everyone imagines like contact sports or racing, but this also includes stuff like darts, pool, chess, etc. Like I said, complete non-issue.

You say these issues are settled. If/when the Dems win back the House this fall, potentially the Senate, and then the White House in 2028 what will you say.
Text Cooking GIF
 

tboonpickens

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Can't wait till Gavin Newsom and AOC are standing there in DC after their inauguration celebrating a landslide victory telling the cowardly Rs the same thing after the low IQ MAGA mind virus has been eradicated.

 
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GDead_Tiger

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Can't wait till Gavin Newsom and AOC are standing there in DC after their inauguration celebrating a landslide victory telling the cowardly Rs the same thing after the low IQ MAGA mind virus has been eradicated.

Change that to AOC and Prtizker and we're cookin'
 

Chumpsky

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It's important to remember that things will be materially different in the USA than they will be in Hungary. The Democrats will not have a super majority in either house and may not have a majority in the Senate at all. This doesn't mean that DOJ shouldn't do stuff but I think we need to calibrate our expectations over what's actually going to be possible. All of the hypothetical Presidents will be constrained by the filibuster.
I know you're right. Deep down I'm expecting the Dems to hold some show hearings that they can use to grandstand, but nothing substantial that does anything to discourage the next fascist movement.
 

dpic73

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The way we dress, speak, our volume, our physical size, eating early, tipping generously, friendliness. Being loud is one thing every European I’ve ever talked to points out. We are more casual. It’s obvious. Just like it’s obvious when someone is from Africa or Haiti or Europe here. Wym?

Then I just put your question in google, here’s what it says:
Yes, in many cases it is quite obvious when an American is visiting Europe, even before they speak. Europeans (and other travelers) frequently point this out in articles, forums, and social media.
🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡😂🤡


Always cracks me up how you guys get so defensive and combative about these things. Like obvious things you will fight over. The Europeans are telling you they know you’re American but you decide you’re too smart, you can’t be wrong. It’s hilarious. 😂 Apparently Americans and American culture are plenty “distinctive” as you put it.
I dunno man, your point is lost on me so to repeat - Democrats don't have a problem with having strong control of the border so if you believe that we shouldn't approve of Magyar because he believes the same, then you're just wrong. I don't care what an outlier billionaire like Soros thinks, the majority of us agree that border control is important for any country, including ours. You can't make a one to one comparison of Hungary and the US for many reasons, in large part because of the population size of our respective countries. And so what if he's to the right of me, he's still someone to admire until he shows otherwise.
 

MTTiger19

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Oh I think you have me mistaken. I see the Democrats as to the left of their European counterparts as a good thing.

I absolutely do not think 80% of the country has spoken on those issues, let alone definitively. You would have opposed desegregation by saying "well lots of white southerners oppose it." Many tens of millions of Americans disagree with you. Democrats aren't just a handful of elected officials, they're tens of millions of normal Americans.

The framing on some of thee issues is slanted and a lot of Americans are pretty stupid and don't know what they're talking about.

-Voter ID is a non-issue because voter fraud is incredibly rare and is always caught. Voter ID laws serve as a modern poll tax to disenfranchise voters. If everyone got a government issued ID that was easy to replace, then sure.

-You have no idea what gender transition entails for kids. There is no surgery involved until the reach 18. At most they get puberty blockers. All of this involves an arduous process in consultation with the family and many doctors. The idea that kids are getting surgery about this is ludicrously false.

-There are maybe 10 transwomen competing in women's collegiate sports. It is a complete non-issue. There has only ever been 1 transwoman to compete in the Olympics and she didn't even come close to medaling. Everyone imagines like contact sports or racing, but this also includes stuff like darts, pool, chess, etc. Like I said, complete non-issue.

You say these issues are settled. If/when the Dems win back the House this fall, potentially the Senate, and then the White House in 2028 what will you sa
Yea bro. Those banging pube blockers that are awesome.
The Cass Review (UK, 2024)


This is the most prominent and recent comprehensive independent review. Commissioned by NHS England, pediatrician Dr. Hilary Cass examined gender identity services for children and young people. Key findings:


• The evidence base for puberty blockers and hormones in minors is “remarkably weak” with “no good evidence” on long-term outcomes for gender dysphoria, mental health, bone health, fertility, or brain development.


• Many studies were low-quality, biased, or lacked proper controls. Benefits were uncertain; risks (including unknown impacts on cognitive/psychosexual development) were significant.


• It led to the closure/restructuring of the Tavistock clinic and a ban on puberty blockers for under-18s outside clinical trials (implemented 2024). Cross-sex hormones are heavily restricted.


This isn’t one “study” but a systematic analysis of the available research, influencing policy across Europe.


Other European Countries’ Reviews and Actions


Several nations conducted their own systematic evidence reviews with similar conclusions:


• Sweden (2022+): National Board of Health and Welfare found risks outweigh benefits; puberty blockers/hormones now experimental-only or highly restricted. Prioritized psychological support.


• Finland: Systematic review led to caution; treatments limited, especially under 25 in some cases, due to comorbidities and weak evidence.


• Norway, Denmark, France: Similar restrictions or calls for more caution, emphasizing mental health evaluation over rapid medicalization.


• Broader trend: Multiple countries moved away from the “Dutch Protocol” (early affirmation) after finding insufficient high-quality data showing improved mental health or reduced suicide risk long-term. Desistance (natural resolution) and comorbidities (autism, trauma, mental health issues) are common factors noted.


These reviews consistently note:


• Sharp rise in referrals (especially adolescent females).


• High rates of co-occurring mental health conditions.


• Limited evidence that medical transition resolves underlying distress better than holistic care.


• Potential harms: infertility, sexual dysfunction, bone density loss, cardiovascular risks, and regret/detransition (though exact rates debated due to poor follow-up).
 

MTTiger19

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Oh I think you have me mistaken. I see the Democrats as to the left of their European counterparts as a good thing.

I absolutely do not think 80% of the country has spoken on those issues, let alone definitively. You would have opposed desegregation by saying "well lots of white southerners oppose it." Many tens of millions of Americans disagree with you. Democrats aren't just a handful of elected officials, they're tens of millions of normal Americans.

The framing on some of thee issues is slanted and a lot of Americans are pretty stupid and don't know what they're talking about.

-Voter ID is a non-issue because voter fraud is incredibly rare and is always caught. Voter ID laws serve as a modern poll tax to disenfranchise voters. If everyone got a government issued ID that was easy to replace, then sure.

-You have no idea what gender transition entails for kids. There is no surgery involved until the reach 18. At most they get puberty blockers. All of this involves an arduous process in consultation with the family and many doctors. The idea that kids are getting surgery about this is ludicrously false.

-There are maybe 10 transwomen competing in women's collegiate sports. It is a complete non-issue. There has only ever been 1 transwoman to compete in the Olympics and she didn't even come close to medaling. Everyone imagines like contact sports or racing, but this also includes stuff like darts, pool, chess, etc. Like I said, complete non-issue.

You say these issues are settled. If/when the Dems win back the House this fall, potentially the Senate, and then the White House in 2028 what will you say.
And the democrats winning or losing has zero impact on what I believe. No political party does. I think for myself.
 

Chumpsky

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I dunno man, your point is lost on me so to repeat - Democrats don't have a problem with having strong control of the border so if you believe that we shouldn't approve of Magyar because he believes the same, then you're just wrong. I don't care what an outlier billionaire like Soros thinks, the majority of us agree that border control is important for any country, including ours. You can't make a one to one comparison of Hungary and the US for many reasons, in large part because of the population size of our respective countries. And so what if he's to the right of me, he's still someone to admire until he shows otherwise.
The Democrats put forth an immigration bill that Republicans wanted in 2024 and Trump told them explicitly not to vote for it so he could use immigration as an campaign strategy.

Maga trying to act like that never happened.
 

GDead_Tiger

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Dec 7, 2021
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Yea bro. Those banging pube blockers that are awesome.
The Cass Review (UK, 2024)


This is the most prominent and recent comprehensive independent review. Commissioned by NHS England, pediatrician Dr. Hilary Cass examined gender identity services for children and young people. Key findings:


• The evidence base for puberty blockers and hormones in minors is “remarkably weak” with “no good evidence” on long-term outcomes for gender dysphoria, mental health, bone health, fertility, or brain development.


• Many studies were low-quality, biased, or lacked proper controls. Benefits were uncertain; risks (including unknown impacts on cognitive/psychosexual development) were significant.


• It led to the closure/restructuring of the Tavistock clinic and a ban on puberty blockers for under-18s outside clinical trials (implemented 2024). Cross-sex hormones are heavily restricted.


This isn’t one “study” but a systematic analysis of the available research, influencing policy across Europe.


Other European Countries’ Reviews and Actions


Several nations conducted their own systematic evidence reviews with similar conclusions:


• Sweden (2022+): National Board of Health and Welfare found risks outweigh benefits; puberty blockers/hormones now experimental-only or highly restricted. Prioritized psychological support.


• Finland: Systematic review led to caution; treatments limited, especially under 25 in some cases, due to comorbidities and weak evidence.


• Norway, Denmark, France: Similar restrictions or calls for more caution, emphasizing mental health evaluation over rapid medicalization.


• Broader trend: Multiple countries moved away from the “Dutch Protocol” (early affirmation) after finding insufficient high-quality data showing improved mental health or reduced suicide risk long-term. Desistance (natural resolution) and comorbidities (autism, trauma, mental health issues) are common factors noted.


These reviews consistently note:


• Sharp rise in referrals (especially adolescent females).


• High rates of co-occurring mental health conditions.


• Limited evidence that medical transition resolves underlying distress better than holistic care.


• Potential harms: infertility, sexual dysfunction, bone density loss, cardiovascular risks, and regret/detransition (though exact rates debated due to poor follow-up).
The Cass Review is incredibly flawed and took statements/data out of context. But it is notable you had to go to the UK to find information and not from the US
 
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GDead_Tiger

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The Democrats put forth an immigration bill that Republicans wanted in 2024 and Trump told them explicitly not to vote for it so he could use immigration as an campaign strategy.

Maga trying to act like that never happened.
Democrats too often concede the framing of issues like immigration to the Republicans. It is basically a non-issue. If our immigration system actually functioned like Americans thought it did then it would be one of the most just in the world