Howard - Crazy Theory?

Miggins

All-Conference
Jul 25, 2001
1,666
2,581
112
Delay in suspension announcement due to Michigan negotiations with Howard to step down?
 

Plum Street

Heisman
Jun 21, 2009
27,306
23,009
0
I thought about that too . Because if he was gonna be suspended it should have been announced suspended indefinitely at this moment
 
Mar 1, 2007
673
733
93
Logic says that he has been given a chance to issue an apology.
Then, they cut him when he refuses.
 
Mar 1, 2007
673
733
93
1. Why were you in the post game handshake line if not to shake hands and move on ?
2. He has a pattern of this behavior. When I saw the Maryland incident this morning and his rationalizations, I thought it was this game.
3. I would personally like to see him stay because it would be better for the kids and then learning a little bit of humility. It could cause more problems in multiple ways if he's fired.
This country is so divided when a review some of the tweets in his favor.
 

ColonelRutgers

All-American
Dec 15, 2003
7,106
9,298
113
This game ended 24 hours ago. Michigan shouldn’t need to wait for the Big Ten to announce a punishment. They should be announcing their own punishment. Don’t know what’s taking so long. Not taking action today would be a really bad look for Michigan and the Big Ten.
 

Miggins

All-Conference
Jul 25, 2001
1,666
2,581
112
This game ended 24 hours ago. Michigan shouldn’t need to wait for the Big Ten to announce a punishment. They should be announcing their own punishment. Don’t know what’s taking so long. Not taking action today would be a really bad look for Michigan and the Big Ten.
My theory/thinking is Michigan is negotiating for him to step down and asking B10 to wait for details to be ironed out.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

Heisman
Sep 11, 2006
123,974
19,586
0
1. Why were you in the post game handshake line if not to shake hands and move on ?
This part is unfair. Seemed to me that is exactly what Howard wanted to do.. not stop to hear Gard's explanation/apology for the timeout which clearly visibly upset Howard.

So it was really Gard who stopped the line from moving on.

But that said.. we know Howards a hothead who reacted very poorly.

He needs help.
 
Mar 1, 2007
673
733
93
This part is unfair. Seemed to me that is exactly what Howard wanted to do.. not stop to hear Gard's explanation/apology for the timeout which clearly visibly upset Howard.

So it was really Gard who stopped the line from moving on.

But that said.. we know Howards a hothead who reacted very poorly.

He needs help.
My bad.
Did not know JH just wanted to shake hands and move on.
Thought he was being passive-aggressive in not wanting to shake hands and move on.
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

Heisman
Sep 11, 2006
123,974
19,586
0
My bad.
Did not know JH just wanted to shake hands and move on.
Thought he was being passive-aggressive in not wanting to shake hands and move on.
well.. in our game they certainly avoided the handshake thing... that was after he got an in-game T.. but.. watch... he was doing it.. seems to have just wanted to get thru it.. but when do you see coaches not share a word on the handshake line? Bad form.. should have given Gard the respect to say his thing and Gard should have realized Howard was not receptive..

That N-I-T chant may make our game vs them a bit harder

 
Last edited:

The RUT

Heisman
Oct 30, 2011
35,717
19,796
61
This part is unfair. Seemed to me that is exactly what Howard wanted to do.. not stop to hear Gard's explanation/apology for the timeout which clearly visibly upset Howard.

So it was really Gard who stopped the line from moving on.

But that said.. we know Howards a hothead who reacted very poorly.

He needs help.
No his intention was to walk through the line so he could tell Gard “I’ll remember that”

Howard is a loser
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

Heisman
Sep 11, 2006
123,974
19,586
0
No his intention was to walk through the line so he could tell Gard “I’ll remember that”

Howard is a loser
And Gard physically stopped him... grabbed him

yeah.. I don't like Howard.. don't think much of his antics... but fair is fair. Find out everything... look at everything. Most people have seemingly rational explanations for the crazy-looking things they do. See if Howard's rationale goes beyond that he got angry.

Nothing can justify taking that swing.. but maybe other people were out of line and that led to that swing too.
 

Scangg

Heisman
Mar 19, 2016
25,448
49,369
113
And Gard physically stopped him... grabbed him

yeah.. I don't like Howard.. don't think much of his antics... but fair is fair. Find out everything... look at everything. Most people have seemingly rational explanations for the crazy-looking things they do. See if Howard's rationale goes beyond that he got angry.

Nothing can justify taking that swing.. but maybe other people were out of line and that led to that swing too.
Coaches grab coaches arms to talk to them after games! This is freaking normal! It's happened millions of times and it's never lead to a fight. Ever. Not once.

There is zero logic to this train of thought
 

Antnee79

Senior
Nov 7, 2017
318
584
0
Agree. Gard touched his elbow to stop him so he could respond to Howard saying “I won’t forget this”. It did not appear to me that Howard was going to shake Gard’s hand, but just to mouth off about his take on the TO.
 

RUPete

Heisman
Feb 5, 2003
26,841
16,113
0
Coaches grab coaches arms to talk to them after games! This is freaking normal! It's happened millions of times and it's never lead to a fight. Ever. Not once.

There is zero logic to this train of thought
I disagree. Obviously I wasn’t there, but looking at the video, if someone grabbed my arm like Gard did in that situation I would be pissed. Even with all that, Howard crossed the line you can’t cross.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GoodOl'Rutgers

Scangg

Heisman
Mar 19, 2016
25,448
49,369
113
I disagree. Obviously I wasn’t there, but looking at the video, if someone grabbed my arm like Gard did in that situation I would be pissed. Even with all that, Howard crossed the line you can’t cross.
You can't really disagree though lol. Coaches grab other coaches arms all the time and it has never lead to a fight before. It's not an opinion it's historical evidence. Go back and watch countless games. And yes, even when coaches are heated it has happened countless times
 

ClassOf02v.2

Heisman
Sep 30, 2010
13,751
15,177
103
I don’t think the OP’s theory is all that crazy at all. It’s certainly one possible scenario that could be playing out. I also think it’s possible that the delay in any sort of announcement is that Howard is refusing to issue an apology. It’s more odd that a token apology didn’t come out from JH last night. If he’s refusing to apologize, insubordination could be on the table.
 

RUDave_01

All-Conference
Dec 8, 2002
1,741
2,027
113
An apology in the form of a written statement would be better than what he's done. The whole situation from that to the Big Ten not announcing its determination on suspensions is really odd. This should be priority #1 duty everyone being called into the office on Sunday evening and an announcement made by early afternoon today.
 

RUPete

Heisman
Feb 5, 2003
26,841
16,113
0
You can't really disagree though lol. Coaches grab other coaches arms all the time and it has never lead to a fight before. It's not an opinion it's historical evidence. Go back and watch countless games. And yes, even when coaches are heated it has happened countless times
All about context here. One grab isn’t always like the other. Historical evidence is a little bit of a strong statement in this case since each interaction is unique within that moment.
 

Plum Street

Heisman
Jun 21, 2009
27,306
23,009
0
There is some real wacko responses here . There is no way to defend Howard . The only debate here about Howard should be whether to fire or suspend for the rest of this season .

The Gard debate is the one to have . I think he’s got to get suspended for at least a game.
 

RUPete

Heisman
Feb 5, 2003
26,841
16,113
0
There is some real wacko responses here . There is no way to defend Howard . The only debate here about Howard should be whether to fire or suspend for the rest of this season .

The Gard debate is the one to have . I think he’s got to get suspended for at least a game.
I just got off the phone with Chris Christie and Mike Brey, and they recommended that both programs are disbanded giving us two wins. Everyone is happy.
 

The RUT

Heisman
Oct 30, 2011
35,717
19,796
61
And Gard physically stopped him... grabbed him

yeah.. I don't like Howard.. don't think much of his antics... but fair is fair. Find out everything... look at everything. Most people have seemingly rational explanations for the crazy-looking things they do. See if Howard's rationale goes beyond that he got angry.

Nothing can justify taking that swing.. but maybe other people were out of line and that led to that swing too.
I’m not saying Gard was completely innocent. I think he probably should get 1 game.

I just know Howard’s type, he wanted to run his mouth. Instead of being a man and moving on he felt the need to bring it to another level.

The reality is that none of this takes place without Howard.

I’m honestly shocked that Michigan is putting up with this. He’s embarrassing the university and that’s coming from someone that didn’t think Rice throwing basketballs was a big deal.

Michigan is turning into a win at all costs school, which is fine, but I always held them in higher standing
 

GoodOl'Rutgers

Heisman
Sep 11, 2006
123,974
19,586
0
Apparently Howard called time out down 13 to Ohio St with 30 seconds left. What a two faced dick
have you not seen the explanations of that? he had his bench in and wanted to coach them to get the ball across the midcourt... he called the TO to get them 10 seconds instead of 4.

Gard was STILL COACHING.. it had nothing to do with being a dick.

Howard could have listened to the explanation when he saw Gard.. but he was too pissed off. He needs time to think about it.. looks like he will have plenty of that.
 
  • Like
Reactions: thegock

mugrat86

Heisman
Dec 11, 2014
8,152
10,668
82
have you not seen the explanations of that? he had his bench in and wanted to coach them to get the ball across the midcourt... he called the TO to get them 10 seconds instead of 4.

Gard was STILL COACHING.. it had nothing to do with being a dick.

Howard could have listened to the explanation when he saw Gard.. but he was too pissed off. He needs time to think about it.. looks like he will have plenty of that.
You misunderstood my post. I am saying in a different game (Michigan vs Ohio st) Howard called time out despite game being over
 

[email protected]

All-American
Jun 24, 2001
28,586
6,762
113
Logic says that he has been given a chance to issue an apology.
Then, they cut him when he refuses.
In another thread someone replied to my post that he did apologize.

I hope they rammed the options down his thick skull.

Also, the next time he goes off on coaches, fans...whomever, I hope they show him the door and tell him
to use it.

MO