How could officials miss this ?

hahkize

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An unsportsmanlike conduct penalty is far more fitting. That’s not even taking into account the two head shoves into the ground after with an official three feet away.

Tackling a player without the football, who is not making a play on the ball, is the definition of unsportsmanlike conduct.
There was extra 'pushing' well after the play on which Moulton went out. He was on the ground and the pushed his upper torso back and doubled him over. Not sure if that caused him to exit or the hit from the defender.
 

Anon1750875978

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Forced Touching.

You can’t gain possession by pushing an opponent into the ball. My only guess is some ST coaches aren’t aware of this, aren’t teaching their kids the rule, or they’re just flat out dirty.
Hilarious that the pbp guys said that stuff is taught by the coaching staff...then realized what they said and "glazed" it back.

Good chance the NCAA modifies those types of plays.
But definitely portrays ISU as a dirty team.

Easy to hate the Clones.
 

Clonewithasigh

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How could the officials miss putting 38 seconds back on the clock after reviewing a catch and overturning the call? Since we saw how the game ended and the Clones have a kicker who can hit from over 60, do you think that 38 seconds would have mattered? You folks cry about a missed facemask when the clock error was about as egregious as it gets considering.
 
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DuddyB

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How could the officials miss putting 38 seconds back on the clock after reviewing a catch and overturning the call? Since we saw how the game ended and the Clones have a kicker who can hit from over 60, do you think that 38 seconds would have mattered? You folks cry about a missed facemask when the clock error was about as egregious as it gets considering.
Yes, B12 officials were awful but most of awful calls or missed penalties favored ISU.
 
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85Bears

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You are crazy as they missed holds on the Iowa OL regularly. They probably didn’t get called because the defense played right through them.
The Iowa Hawkeyes football team ranks among the least penalized and "cleanest" programs in college football.
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    • Low Penalties: The Hawkeyes consistently average fewer than four penalties per game under head coach Kirk Ferentz.
    • National Standing: They routinely rank near the very top of the FBS for discipline, self-control, and avoiding unforced errors.


    • Comparison: They frequently rival service academies like Army and Air Force for on-field cleanliness and minimal penalty yards.
 

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gojojo

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How could the officials miss putting 38 seconds back on the clock after reviewing a catch and overturning the call? Since we saw how the game ended and the Clones have a kicker who can hit from over 60, do you think that 38 seconds would have mattered? You folks cry about a missed facemask when the clock error was about as egregious as it gets considering.


The more you know…

 

LetsGoHawks83

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What are thoughts on the dirty plays throughout the game? More dirty plays in one game than I’ve seen by KF and Campbell coached teams in their entire careers…

Clowns are embracing the dirt bag style with their new "mean mug" coach. Mr. Tough guy on the sidelines. His whole "thing" fits right in with Ames legends like Paul "so proud" Rhodes.

He'll have about the same success as Rhodes too.
 
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How could the officials miss putting 38 seconds back on the clock after reviewing a catch and overturning the call? Since we saw how the game ended and the Clones have a kicker who can hit from over 60, do you think that 38 seconds would have mattered? You folks cry about a missed facemask when the clock error was about as egregious as it gets considering.
Dude, they were YOUR refs! 🤣
 

DuddyB

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Yep, and now you know one of the differences in the conferences. The refs won’t protect a conference team like the B10 did in front of the nation in week one. They then doubled down and gave the finger to everyone that knew better, which was everyone watching who was not in blue.
What are your thoughts on your coach teaching your team to play dirty?
 
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4everHawk

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KF is very restrained, I probably would have been arrested.


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Hard to tell from a screenshot. If the play clock just turned zero, they generally let this slide. Basically a ref has to see it turn zero and then start the process of throwing a flag. They don’t throw the flag the instant it goes to zero.
As for the fouls on the punt return, I guess I didn’t get as worked up over it. I suppose it would be some sort of holding penalty but I think I was more upset with James not getting away from the ball. What ISU should have done is put a couple of guys behind him so he couldn’t backpedal away from the ball and he would have been forced to try and pick it up while having defenders behind him and in front of him.
Now the smashing his face into the ground after taking him down should have easily been a penalty.
 
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gojojo

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Yep, and now you know one of the differences in the conferences. The refs won’t protect a conference team like the B10 did in front of the nation in week one. They then doubled down and gave the finger to everyone that knew better, which was everyone watching who was not in blue.


What specific calls are you upset about? I see you ignored my post clearing up the clock issue you were uninformed on.

You’re really living up to the reputation ISU has of whining about officiating after every loss, even when it has no impact on the final outcome.
 

WeBeHerkin

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How could the officials miss putting 38 seconds back on the clock after reviewing a catch and overturning the call? Since we saw how the game ended and the Clones have a kicker who can hit from over 60, do you think that 38 seconds would have mattered? You folks cry about a missed facemask when the clock error was about as egregious as it gets considering.
They didn't see below. They were correct
 

iahawkeyes17

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You are crazy as they missed holds on the Iowa OL regularly. They probably didn’t get called because the defense played right through them.
Please enlighten us on the plays? Or any missed pis? Even nbc guy Blackledge said missed hold on Vonnahmme end of first half would’ve put Iowa inside 15 and Diaz pi 4th qtr. speaking of playing through the hole quite the flail by isu defender on holding call to end the 3rd qtr by dotzler…. And not like isu didn’t get away with a blatant hold by the TE on their td. Refs were awful but you’re crazy if you think Isu didn’t benefit more from the non calls.
 
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iahawkeyes17

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Exactly what happened. One coach has perspective in the heat of the moment and the other apparently teaches his kids how to play dirty.
It reminded me of instance after 9/11 Jim Leland when managing the tigers was arguing with umps. God bless America came on he stopped put his hat over his heart then continued to argue after the song was over and got ejected.
 

BigOHawk1

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I’m starting to think the game would have been 20-3 if we didn’t get hosed by Al Capones big 12 officials.
True, yet 100% that out pass by Brown that was tipped at the LOS was going to be a pick six for sure...we did duck one there...
 

LetsGoHawks83

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good lord, it never stops, watch the face mask tackle in the bottom video. Deshaun Lee


I saw that live.... Look at the ref standing RIGHT THERE.... How does he not see that? Anticipating the dive for the goalline and staring at the line?
 

TweeterHawk

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Jimmy Rogers is a punk who obviously coaches this type of thuggery. There were several replays not seeking to show fouls where Clown players are scraping across the Iowa player’s helmet and/or facemask, not enough to draw a facemask penalty but enough to yank the opponent’s head a bit. Total, complete garbage all in the name of gamesmanship. Also Clown defenders pulling down Iowa receivers by the shirt enough to prevent them from making the catch. Coached crap that should have been whistled but wasn’t.

Big 12 is second rate from top to bottom.
 

chipackhawk

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It needs to be investigated how these are both missed. Blatantly missed. None of them saw four guys pulling a returner without the ball?
At the very least - holding? Good lord the only time the officials seemed to be on the ball was the very last decision of the game.
 

paednoch23

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You forgot this one.


I did t miss it. Your cheap *** conference has terrible officials. It’s time for a super league. It was one of the worse called games I’ve ever seen. Your photo proves it was bad all around. The BIG and the SEC need to take NC, Miami, ND and form a new league.
 

10001110101

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You are crazy as they missed holds on the Iowa OL regularly. They probably didn’t get called because the defense played right through them.
Yup. Iowa not getting called for holding? The obvious explanation for every non-biased football fan is obvious:

It was because the Iowa State University football players are God's gift to football.

Go away clown.
 

cyclone plastic

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Well ****. There are at least 6 instance shown in this thread, where bad calls and non-calls favored Iowa State.

But this one picture you just posted changes everything. Had the refs called that, there's zero question Iowa State would have won.
No that isn't what I am saying. If you isolate on a player you will most likely see infractions on every play, if they called every infraction in the game it would last over 6 hours. Both teams were bringing it, and it made no difference in the outcome of the game.
 
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