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Shelby65

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we can’t dribble, shoot , pass or defend . Not a good combination. And we are limited athletically as well. None of these guys start on any other big ten ; embarrassing
Nope. No big10 talent on this team. Mid-major starter talent is questionable, because defense matters too
 
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ScarletKid2008

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I am a die hard basketball fan. I chose to put up lawn decorating for Christmas instead of watch the game. Poked my head in a few times to watch a few possessions. And was horrified at how bad we look. Literally look like Detroit junior college vs a conference opponent. Pike is done man. You can’t field a team like this after last years epic fail.
 

Caliknight

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Like Schiano, Pikes defensive schemes have passed him by. Simply creating chaos and effort isn’t enough. Teams are way too skilled and well coached where all it leads to is dunks and open look threes


Forget offense. Pile doesn’t believe in it. Defense wins games, except it doesn’t.

Kelli has her work cut out that’s for sure. The two main sports need incredible amounts of attention.
 

Shelby65

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We paid Buchanan, Francis, and the 2 Euros — and none of them bring anything to the table. Pike should’ve at least paid for dogs. We brought in 4 guys who don’t play defense.
JMike is useless too, can’t play D, can’t shoot and can’t can’t create. Shelby would rather give his minutes to Mark at this point, who at least can take it strong to the hoop and has two years more eligibility
 
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I don’t think he’s done. Look, I think we have some pieces but nowhere near what we need to compete with deep pockets of Michigan. I really like Powers, Mark, and Zrno. We will always struggle without a competent front court. I really feel that Myles Johnson was our best big man and we will struggle until we can find a player or 2 on the front court who can make a difference. And how long ago did Myles leave the program? It’s been a while. Francis and JaMichael are over their head a bit. You really can’t use today’s game as a barometer for this year. I’ll be more critical about losses to teams in the B1G not named Michigan, Purdue, Illinois and Michigan State this year.
 
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Knight Shift

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When will Kelli can Pike. This can’t go on another year.
That's Keli with one L.


I saw the threa title and figured you were thread starter.
 
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RUSCFORMERLYRULOU

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I don’t think he’s done. Look, I think we have some pieces but nowhere near what we need to compete with deep pockets of Michigan. I really like Powers, Mark, and Zrno. We will always struggle without a competent front court. I really feel that Myles Johnson was our best big man and we will struggle until we can find a player or 2 on the front court who can make a difference. And how long ago did Myles leave the program? It’s been a while. Francis and JaMichael are over their head a bit. You really can’t use today’s game as a barometer for this year.
Shaq Doorson was superior to any center we have now.
 

bac2therac

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The issue is we can’t afford the buyout and at the same time raising NIL with a lame duck coach is not feasible

Program is where it was when pike got here

$5 million difference...you think next year saves him

Ugh i fear this kind of thinking

Pike goes from 10-22 to 14-18 and gets to stay...yipeeeee
 

Shell21

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Its not all about nil

Its roster and talent management for 4 years now showing its face

Yes nil is a big factor..but
yep. we have barley any skilled players . and we are limited athletically and have limited shooting. You can’t tell me pike couldn’t have gotten more skilled players or better athletes for the same money. at least one or two. it’s horrendous roster management two years in a row with generational talent last year. put anyone with a pulse around those two and we dance
 

Mholinko

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I heard ccsu had zero budget...so
That’s fair but if we’re going to hang our hat on that game as the reason money isn’t the problem we can keep hanging out with Boston college as the embarrassments of college basketball

pointing to a singular game doesn’t mean it’s not an issue

there’s 100 issues that the administration and AD have to address

anybody saying $ and financial support ISNT one of them has lost the plot

just like anyone saying Pike can fix this has also lost the plot

it’s not one single thing that leads you here but anybody who thinks a coaching change with the same foundation and financial structure can get us on the tournament bubble with any regularity is also wrong
 

bac2therac

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That’s fair but if we’re going to hang our hat on that game as the reason money isn’t the problem we can keep hanging out with Boston college as the embarrassments of college basketball

pointing to a singular game doesn’t mean it’s not an issue

there’s 100 issues that the administration and AD have to address

anybody saying $ and financial support ISNT one of them has lost the plot

just like anyone saying Pike can fix this has also lost the plot

it’s not one single thing that leads you here but anybody who thinks a coaching change with the same foundation and financial structure can get us on the tournament bubble with any regularity is also wrong
Better to start fresh...young coach..if Keli can get the money

Who wants to give huge money for dinosaur Pike
 

tevans8407

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The money excuse is complete nonsense. It doesn't take money to teach proper shot selection. It doesn't take money to teach rebounding. It doesn't take money to learn to how close out on the perimeter. Steve Pikiell needs to be fired yesterday.
 

Mholinko

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The money excuse is complete nonsense. It doesn't take money to teach proper shot selection. It doesn't take money to teach rebounding. It doesn't take money to learn to how close out on the perimeter. Steve Pikiell needs to be fired yesterday.
It’s not an excuse for why we’re losing by 50 but it is a reason why we’re never going to be competitive in the big ten and anybody who thinks we will be without an infusion into our budget is crazy

Michigan state got a 390 million dollar athletic donation today 100 million SPECIFICALLY for NIL

Do they need that money no but they sure as hell will benefit from it that’s what we’re competing against