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WTH is going on with your football team. By now, Frost should have righted the ship. Since I don't follow your team can somebody fill me in please.
 

BleedRed78

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Coach playing favoritism to a lackluster QB. Team responds in kind. Poor play calling; way too cute with it. Defense is actually pretty decent this year for a change, but offense doesn't do them any favors. We're all hoping he starts the right QB moving forward, and start calling better plays from there...
 

TheBeav815

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Mentally weak, lack of consequences for being a screw-up. I think they're only just getting to the place where they can bench a guy for being a moron and not have some true freshman or walk-on backing him up.

I need to start seeing some OL trotting off the field after they false start in a stadium with no fans to make noise. Know the ******* snap count, that's middle school stuff. How you gonna watch that as a backup and think your effort and your quality of play matter?
 

c3o

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Don't know how to win

WR personnel sets don't make sense

Good, young players sitting while do-nothings hog the snaps

QB regression (for AM)

The better of QBs gets thrown, cold into a heated game

Wandale Robinson absent from play-calling

No deep ball (just give Manning, Betts, Fleming, someone a PA deep shot into single cover, once, just to keep the other team honest on first down)

Our center was hurt

HS-level or worse play-calling

Goal line offense putrid

Procedural penalties


Basically, poor-coaching combined with a team that doesn't have what it takes when we need it most. They are unprepared and still making the exact same mistakes as day 1, year 1.

The fans don't want to hear excuses. There is enough talent on this team to win the west. Way more than enough. The defense seems to be improved

Time to hire some real help on the offensive side of the ball or you're doomed.
 

BuckysBoys1

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Why make a stupid thread about how ****** we are when all you have to do is read through any other one? But c30 pretty much nailed it, except I disagree on the inserting LM into the heated game. He had four drives and got us zero points.
 
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I honestly thought Frost would turn Nebraska around in a couple seasons. But, what you guys are telling me doesn't sound to promising. Well, good luck the rest of the way. Maybe another recruiting class will help. Thanks for the input.
 

JRich52806

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I honestly thought Frost would turn Nebraska around in a couple seasons. But, what you guys are telling me doesn't sound to promising. Well, good luck the rest of the way. Maybe another recruiting class will help. Thanks for the input.

I never thought he was ever going to be successful at Nebraska. Expectations were way too high for him.

He had one successful season at UCF. Needed to wait before going after him and see if he could sustain the winning and that it wasnt a fluke.
But he was Mr. Nebraska and the emotional attachment effected the decision and expectations of the fans.
 

steinek11

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I never thought he was ever going to be successful at Nebraska. Expectations were way too high for him.

He had one successful season at UCF. Needed to wait before going after him and see if he could sustain the winning and that it wasnt a fluke.
But he was Mr. Nebraska and the emotional attachment effected the decision and expectations of the fans.
Let's be careful with the revisionist history. If we don't go after him hard, he's likely coaching at Florida. There was never any waiting around
 

BuckysBoys1

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I don’t see how anybody could have seen this coming. Frost was the national coach of the year after the 2017 season. To say you saw this coming is just utter bs.
 

gw2kpro

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Why make a stupid thread about how ****** we are when all you have to do is read through any other one? But c30 pretty much nailed it, except I disagree on the inserting LM into the heated game. He had four drives and got us zero points.

So.......... if he had another 6 drives, and netted 7 points or more off of those, he would have been ahead of our starter.
 

tmcats

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There's a thread on almost every football site in the Midwest addressing this same issue.

At the K-State board I favor, the conclusion is that switching to the B10 had more negative effects than coaching in it. That dealing with Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin is more difficult than K-State, Missouri, and OU in some part due to lost rivalries, "presence," and recruiting.

There's no real way of knowing is there. Everyone down here thought coach Frost was a slam dunk hire. But it's just not turning out that way presently.

I watched some, not a lot, but some of the Northwestern game and just SMH in exasperation at what has become of N football. #emaw
 

gw2kpro

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Not quite brains! He would need to lead a scoring drive in 7 out of 10 to be ahead of AM.

I was ballparking.

To be more precise:

Against Northwestern last weekend, Nebraska scored 13 points. 7 of those 13 points came on an interception returned to the goal line.

So our offense netted 6 points. Two field goals.

Nebraska drive 1 - AMART QB 8 plays 36 yards PUNT
Nebraska drive 2 - AMART QB 3 plays 6 yards PUNT
Nebraska drive 3 - AMART QB 3 plays-3 yards PUNT
Nebraska drive 4 - AMART QB 14 plays 56 yards FG
Nebraska drive 5 - AMART QB 6 plays 34 yards FG
Nebraska drive 6 - AMART QB 10 plays 44 yards MISSED FG
Nebraska drive 7 - Defense returns ball to the goal line. TD
Nebraska drive 8 - AMART QB 6 plays 23 yards HALF
Nebraska drive 9 - AMART QB 5 plays 21 yards PUNT
Nebraska drive 10 - AMART QB 8 plays 67 yards INT
Nebraska drive 11 - LM QB 9 plays 70 yards INT
Nebraska drive 12 - LM QB 13 plays 78 yards DOWNS

So, I was wrong.

AMART netted 6 points in 9 drives.

LM netted zero points in 2 drives.

To have outperformed AMART on the scoreboard, LM would have had to net 7 points in 7 more drive attempts. Not 6.
 

JRich52806

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The Florida state job is a complete train wreck. I bet he wishes he had the Oregon job though.
Who is to say he wouldn't be having the same resylts there though.
I don’t see how anybody could have seen this coming. Frost was the national coach of the year after the 2017 season. To say you saw this coming is just utter bs.

Maybe through Husker colored glasses you couldn't see it coming. But as a non-Nebraska fan, I could see and also predicted this outcome.

The state of the program of recent times, coaching carousel, over enthusiastic expectations, fans too blinded by Frosts Nebraska connection to see how limited of experience he had at coaching in spite of one successful season (in a much weaker conference). One Coach of the year / undefeated season at UCF doesnt translate into being a good solid coach in the BIG. There are plenty if examples to prove that.
All of this made it obvious to me that it would not work out from the beginning. But of course no Nebraska fans agreed and had visions of national championships in their heads.
 

gw2kpro

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Your still wrong. LM first drive was 3 plays negative 30 yards
That is partially correct!

So it looks like this

Nebraska drive 1 - AMART QB 8 plays 36 yards PUNT
Nebraska drive 2 - AMART QB 3 plays 6 yards PUNT
Nebraska drive 3 - AMART QB 3 plays-3 yards PUNT
Nebraska drive 4 - AMART QB 14 plays 56 yards FG
Nebraska drive 5 - AMART QB 6 plays 34 yards FG
Nebraska drive 6 - AMART QB 10 plays 44 yards MISSED FG
Nebraska drive 7 - Defense returns ball to the goal line. TD
Nebraska drive 8 - AMART QB 6 plays 23 yards HALF
Nebraska drive 9 - AMART QB 5 plays 21 yards PUNT
Nebraska drive 10 - AMART QB 8 plays 67 yards INT
Nebraska drive 11 - LM QB 5 plays 14 yards PUNT
Nebraska drive 12 - LM QB 9 plays 70 yards INT
Nebraska drive 13 - LM QB 13 plays 78 yards DOWNS

So, I was right the first time.

To have outperformed AMART on the scoreboard, LM would have had to net 7 points in 6 more drive attempts.
 

Husker4real_rivals373787

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Scott Frost and his staff need to be better at their jobs. That’s the answer.

I cringe watching our offense so much of the time. Too often we look like a disorganized mess.
 

c3o

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Look, I don't want to get another coach.

I like that they try to run the ball as much as they do. I like some things that they're doing.

Frost is just getting schooled in games right now. Against OSU and NW they tried to play safe. Simple play-calling, no mistakes and try to win. Probably smart against OSU, just keep it from being a blow out but we should have beat NW, IMO. Next time they get inside the 5, f*cking score. No excuses. This team finishes drives and we're 1-1 and Frost isn't on a hypothetical chopping block.

He needs to learn how to win. His players need to learn how to win. That trickles down. He has NOT put them in to position to win. And I'm not talking about the game's final score. I mean every got dam drive. Win. Every time they get into the opponents field, WIN

F8cking Kade Warner Jet Sweeps????

Get Wandale the ball more.

Take some dam shots down the field.

Try some different runs (NW was killing us on that counter)

Throw underneath to fast WRs and let them run

I don't know - figure it out, Frost. We should have won that game. We were the better team. They have the better coach as of now
 

steinek11

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Who is to say he wouldn't be having the same resylts there though.

Maybe through Husker colored glasses you couldn't see it coming. But as a non-Nebraska fan, I could see and also predicted this outcome.

The state of the program of recent times, coaching carousel, over enthusiastic expectations, fans too blinded by Frosts Nebraska connection to see how limited of experience he had at coaching in spite of one successful season (in a much weaker conference). One Coach of the year / undefeated season at UCF doesnt translate into being a good solid coach in the BIG. There are plenty if examples to prove that.
All of this made it obvious to me that it would not work out from the beginning. But of course no Nebraska fans agreed and had visions of national championships in their heads.
He may have to grow into the job more than we'd like to admit. Someone asked if he was ready to take the job when Riley did and he said no. Then he goes to Central Florida and kills it. There was no where to go but down. He could probably maintain 10 to 11 wins per year at the old job. He was going to get plenty of talent within 2 hours of Orlando. I'm willing to be patient has he figures this out. My biggest concern is that we have a rough year and our recruiting falls off because people don't believe he will last much longer. He's got to keep recruiting at a high level
 

gw2kpro

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Yes you’re right. We scored zero points with LM at QB
Thank you. I know I'm right. I corrected my error and admitted it.

You can admit that you were wrong. Or not.

At any rate, time to take our chances with a QB that has some upside and work for a decent end to this year and hopefully build for next season. Martinez already had more opportunity, and more starts at Nebraska, than most FCS QB's ever get.

Page turned. 2 guys in the wings, hopefully one of them can develop.
 

BuckysBoys1

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However, if a baseball player hits 3 home runs on his first 10 at bats. And the next guy hits 0 in his first 4, who plays the next day. LM is batting .000 in scoring drives.
 

TampaBaySkers

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Play calling sometimes feels like a kid playing EA NCAA football. Like last game they found out the direct snap to the iback was a play so they did it a couple times for the hell of it.. flea flicker was also a strange call. Most idiotic was the play selection on the two yard line after the refs gifted us a PI call.
 

steinek11

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Play calling sometimes feels like a kid playing EA NCAA football. Like last game they found out the direct snap to the iback was a play so they did it a couple times for the hell of it.. flea flicker was also a strange call. Most idiotic was the play selection on the two yard line after the refs gifted us a PI call.
I wish he'd gone heavy set, release the TE and hit him in the corner of the end zone. I should really start sending plays to Frost again. I bet he'd appreciate that!
 

c3o

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I actually think they'll play inspired and beat PSU.

They better be hungry this game. Every remaining game is winnable. Go get it
 

steinek11

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Figure out how to beat Penn State, win against Illinois and get some momentum the rest of the way. 5 and 2 or 4 and 3 are within reach.
 

TampaBaySkers

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Figure out how to beat Penn State, win against Illinois and get some momentum the rest of the way. 5 and 2 or 4 and 3 are within reach.

You have to turn the keys over to Luke, and let him lead this team as the starter. Maybe beat Penn State then watch the confidence grow.