Honest Question about Jordan Williams

TheREALSpooner

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Wow, talk about a red herring. As far as the jury part goes, I was simply looking for an honest answer to that question and, if you noticed, he did NOT answer.

My point was simply about a specific part of a law that I think is beyond ridiculous and was created more as a money grab between MADD and Law Enforcement than a true safety measure.

For clarity, I made it clear that IF it was reasonably proven in court, again, REASONABLY PROVEN, that the person that drank NEVER intended to drive, would you still convict them of a OWI/DUI? Do you think they DESERVE one simply because they drank and were in a car that was on at some point while they were intoxicated? They should get a DUI because they MAY decide later to drive? MInd you, drinking is LEGAL.

The simple truth is this would be the exact same thing as someone legally having a gun on them and charging them with any sort of violent gun crime because they MAY shoot someone with it. Now, there are actually certain laws for having the gun on you in certain places, but it would then be a very specific law LESS than any charge would be for ACTUALLY using the gun. If you want there to be a charge specific to being inside a running car while Intoxicated, I would be fine with that. But, it should be a LESSER charge than an actual OWI/DUI. That has really ONLY been my entire point....


How about this example?

Three buddies go out for a night on the town in some type of cargo van. They all drink heavily AFTER parking the van and when the night is over they all go sleep it off in the van, while it is running. Who deserves a DUI if the cops show up? All 3? Just the owner? What if none of them own the vehicle? Again, I would hope law enforcement would see it for what it is and not charge any of them with it, but they could and that is my contention. INTENT matters to me very much in nearly all aspects of life and it ABSOLUTELY should matter when you get charged with the exact same thing as someone that intentionally did something you didn't do...

Calling out someone for a red herring after the post you made is so rich it’s sticky. 😂

It’s beyond funny that AJ has been in trouble multiple times in just the last year, and somehow you are still claiming moral high ground. Like really…how is it you’re hanging your hat on this right now?
 
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MSU158

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Calling out someone for a red herring after the post you made is so rich it’s sticky. 😂

It’s beyond funny that AJ has been in trouble multiple times in just the last year, and somehow you are still claiming moral high ground. Like really…how is it you’re hanging your hat on this right now?
This argument isn’t about the person. It is about the law. But, hey, thanks for the kind words!
 

Mattski

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If I attached a pic, you'd be an accessory to murder. Mine. She's 52 but looks every bit of 38. Southern belle. Just a little crazy though, and not always in a good way.
Sounds like we married the same woman, minus the southern belle part lol.
 

Mattski

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Calling out someone for a red herring after the post you made is so rich it’s sticky. 😂

It’s beyond funny that AJ has been in trouble multiple times in just the last year, and somehow you are still claiming moral high ground. Like really…how is it you’re hanging your hat on this right now?
But you don't KNOW him!
 
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