Hey hollywood, why don’t you wait until Pike makes the tournament before locking us in financially to the king of 20 point comeback losses.
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BAGS, why did I click on your thread?
Listen pike has done a good job here . But it’s not great . And Hobbs just gave an extension to a guy that may be in the midst of engineering one of the biggest collapses in history . He could have just waited like the OP said to actually accomplish something
Consistency is a good thing and even if they lose out this team exceeded most expectations. I'd rather have Pike with a shiny new contract telling recruits he will be here for them then going in with any uncertainty.
Ash is 6-18 at Rutgers, following up a 2-10 debut with a 4-8 season that included a program-record-tying three Big Ten wins.
Shortly before kickoff of Saturday's season finale, Rutgers reaffirmed its commitment to Ash after improvements in his second year by essentially restarting the clock on his tenure and replacing the original five-year, $11 million agreement signed in December 2015.
How about he makes the Tournament before giving him an extension.
Hobbs never learns.
Maybe the new Pres hires a new AD.
Shortly before kickoff of Saturday's season finale, Rutgers reaffirmed its commitment to Ash after improvements in his second year by essentially restarting the clock on his tenure and replacing the original five-year, $11 million agreement signed in December 2015.
How about he makes the Tournament before giving him an extension.
Hobbs never learns.
Maybe the new Pres hires a new AD.
Agree . You will get the ash contract had a guarantee extension clause . But pike’s didn’t . I hope pike wins the last couple games and we get in the tournament. Hobbs would have killed it then
I’m not writing off Pike for the record, I’m just saying the body of work to date doesn’t equate to that type of extension imo.
But there’s no denying Pike is developing a reputation for not being able to win on the road. And we’re not going 17-0 at the RAC every year...
But there’s no denying Pike is developing a reputation for not being able to win on the road. And we’re not going 17-0 at the RAC every year...
Joey must not be very good at adding 1+1, extension before end of season announced & EMERGENCY BOG meeting to ratify on this Friday. This is pretty obvious that Pike has serious suitors who have made offers
Don't be naive. There are plenty of teams that will be sniffing around Pikiell after this season, so Hobbs just bought Rutgers a little more security. People think he's doing a terrific job and it's being noticed.
yeah--multiple sell outs, great fan and media attention, best record in years and a super competitive team and a ncaa or nit bid means Hobbs should not give him a extension--some of you guys need help
This is the only reason that makes sense...I guess with Cliff coming in as well for a visit this weekend.
We sure do like to roll the dice a bit...but I guess that's the game these days.
guys you need to make a decision. is Rutgers a big 10 job or is it not a big 10 job. You all want big 10 success but then want to underpay your head coach by $1M. Make a decision. all you people bitching about Pikiell & Hobbs are out to lunch. based on his comp Rutgers is getting the best value out of any school in the country.
Here are big 10 records of current coaches getting paid more than pikiell.
Underwood - 21-33(.389) - $2.85M
McCaffrey - 87-92(.486) - $2.3M
Pitino - 47-79(.373) - $2.19M
Miller - 25-29(.463) - $3.25M
Holtman - 31-23(.574) -$3M - 15 of those wins came in year one. excluding year one he is 16-20.
Not only has pikiell taken over much worse situation than all these coaches combined but he also has the highest cost of living than any of these coaches combined.
Again pikiell is providing rutgers with the best value of any coach in the country.
Here are big 10 records of current coaches getting paid more than pikiell.
Underwood - 21-33(.389) - $2.85M
McCaffrey - 87-92(.486) - $2.3M
Pitino - 47-79(.373) - $2.19M
Miller - 25-29(.463) - $3.25M
Holtman - 31-23(.574) -$3M - 15 of those wins came in year one. excluding year one he is 16-20.
Not only has pikiell taken over much worse situation than all these coaches combined but he also has the highest cost of living than any of these coaches combined.
Again pikiell is providing rutgers with the best value of any coach in the country.
The timing of the extension seems off to me. We just gave him a shiny new building to help the cause. Certainly no need to do it before the end of this season.
You truly can not help yourself. Your default response is always always to attack fans who aren’t in lock step with the administration on every issue. Have you sought help?
one of the biggest collapses in history? Lol I'm too lazy to even list all of the reasons why that's an insane exaggeration so I'll just laugh.
Who else is out there that would come running to the job? We were 7-25 the year before Pike got here and now we're probably 1 win away from ending a 30 year drought. What a sh*t thread.
Oh, and EVERY game has been a sellout for about 2 months.
Pike has already been extended, guess they did NOT ask you for your input!
Last night the announcers were saying pikiell is still in the running for big ten coach of the year. Did losing to #16 PSU by 1 on the road somehow just flip that sentiment?
We aren't closing games. We are also starting 4 sophomores most nights. It's a miracle that we have 18 wins.
Wenzel went to the tourney and then struggled for multiple seasons after that.
Im fine if you disagree I just feel like it was premature to extend at this time even with the positive momentum. If he had a top 25 class coming in, different story. But there are a lot of unknowns going forward at RU and if things don’t pan out you don’t want to be on the hook for a massive buyout when you don’t have to be. Simple risk mitigation. Now if someone tried to steal him away that’s one thing but that would be a heck of a bold move by whoever that is at this point.
this from one of the most negative,malicious,and all is bad at RU poster on this board--my response is on target-your response to defend attacks on Pike is typical--you need a personal life and by the way many if most of those in RU's administration are more informed, more invested in RU and more concerned with RU's well being than you ever will be -- as a matter of fact you live to criticize RU--talk about a sad,unhappy guy--you are it-I kind of feel sorry for you but you're an a$$ so I don't
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So every team needs to wait until they make the tourney to lock up a coach? Stop. Pike has us with a record number of B1G wins.locking up a coach also helps the players and recruits know they can depend on Pike being here for the long haul
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Yes, winning and losing matters last I checked . In fact it’s the only thing that matters
What collapses would be bigger ? 99? 06?
This would beat those. But let’s hope it doesn’t happen
$$$ matters RAC sold out how many games? Recruiting matters. Locking Pike up is huge for not only current players but future recruits.
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Thats fine but no need to reward him with an extension that ties us to him for 6 more years and while i realize hes not making $4 mill yr now, he will within 3-4 seasons. $4 mill.yr now is 2nd highest paid in big ten and 4th highest paid in america. Its outlandish and not deserved. For that type of money we can do sooooo much better
You win and cash will follow . And of course recruiting matters because it is directly tied to the point of the whole thing: winning
I thought you meant in all of college basketball.. and I actually think 2006 wasn't even a collapse, that team was simply overrated outside of Douby... 03-04 was the backbreaker.
if you don’t want to pay the man that is fine but don’t complain when we don’t win. He took over the hardest job in the league and a team with 1 big ten win.
Pikiell transformed Rutger’s national image as it relates to basketball. Rutgers basketball was a punchline before pikiell.
He is currently paid less than coaches at better schools with better facilities, better tradition and better support with comparable results.
The extension was either coming now or end of season. It makes no difference. He deserves a raise.
Pikiell transformed Rutger’s national image as it relates to basketball. Rutgers basketball was a punchline before pikiell.
He is currently paid less than coaches at better schools with better facilities, better tradition and better support with comparable results.
The extension was either coming now or end of season. It makes no difference. He deserves a raise.
RAC has already sold out yet we are not yet in the tourney. Pike has brought excitement to the team. Step away as a fan for a moment and look at what the media is still saying about us and how difficult it is to play at the RAC
But in 4 years it will be the 89th highest paid. Relax
Can't like this enough. Spot on
Sure, progress has been made . There was progress during other rutgers coach tenures as well. Hell, people wanted to extend bannon for several years back in 99.
Pike has to get over the hump and get us to tournament . It’s that simple .
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What was the hurry? While Pike is doing a great job, he hasn’t earned an extension. Let him make the tourney and then extend. Does Hobbs have a standard as to when to give a coach a raise. If Pike were to go, we now have the facilities, the league, and proof that sell out crowds will support the team. I am not worried if Pike were to leave. If we make the tourney, I will be beyond happy that Pike is locked up. Just don’t want to jump the gun. Be patient Pat.
Couldn't agree more ru66, Shill is a miserable idiot and I can be banned for calling him out and could care less. I remember during the Waters year watching him and his buddy Jeff's antics at the games. I thought it was because he was young and would outgrow being a miserable jackass but I guess not. He is the most negative poster on this board.
The Big 10, the atmosphere, the potential we've shown - don't kid yourself, a ton of coaches would now be interested in RU. That said, not against the extension, but need an offensive guru alongside him on the bench.
Unbelievable that people are upset over Pike's extension. The man took the Eddie Jordan disaster to NCAA bubble in four years. You can bet that people would be after him to leave RU. Absolutely great job by Hobbs to extend him.
you hope this would remain true. If you remove pikiell from the equation the only thing that is different from the sentence above is practice facility. Which is nice but something that other big 10 schools have. The RAC still the worst facility in league for games in regard to the facility itself. At. John’s has carnesseca, MSG and since 2005 the Taffner practice facility and has been mediocre at best since. Three NCAA tournament first round losses, one in first four, and 7 winning seasons.l since construction was completed in 2005. St. John’s also has much for tradition than Rutgers and something that is crazy much more recent success than Rutgers.
Other than the new practice facility, Rice had all the same stuff but in Big East at the time arguably better than big 10, Jordan had all the same stuff But in big 10. What did they do? Did rice get on the bubble? Jordan took them from 14 wins to 1 in three years....
practice facilities and conference affiliations don’t change programs coaches do.
be careful what you wish for
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Compared to the previous coaches, Pike is a good. The other problem of waiting to after post season is he might be gone. Opposing school take the time during the tournament to speak with top candidates.
Also, when was the last time Rutgers had a winning season and make a post season tournament? It's been awhile and Rutgers will accomplish both either the NCAA or NIT to go along with a positive season.