Herro is a PG
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Well, he was a OAD lottery pick, no matter what color he is. I tell ya, the race card is played wayyyyy too much on this board and in life in general. You never hear anyone say, "so and so is so overrated mainly because he's black." Matter of fact, I've never heard that in my life. Weird.
Tyler was actually the facilitator in our half court. Initiated alot of pick and pop/roll with pj and ej. Was a focus of our half court along with getting ok the ball at the elbow
He made great decisions except the occasional poor shot. So he'll do really well in those situations in the nba, as that's the vast majority of their half court too
He made great decisions except the occasional poor shot. So he'll do really well in those situations in the nba, as that's the vast majority of their half court too
Damn. Another player screwed by Cal. If only Cal would have left KAT playing outside and not making him play with his back to basket. Poor KAT... coulda been decent.
And probably go 40-0.
Herro is the BEST SG Cal has had . No where near a pg BUT in the NBA sometimes it matters little so in the NBA he could play spot minutes at it . IN college the whole thing revolves around the pg . If you want to win a title you need 3 things in the modern cbb ( the last 5 years) a great pg , some depth and a good SF . Bigs are not needed really . I mean you can't have what we had in Ulis/Murray year but you don't need Cousins , Patterson and Orton either.
Murray and Monk were both better than Herro their one year here. Looking like Herro may be a better pro than Monk though
You gotta wonder where Tyler would be today if only Cal had used him in the ways that are obvious to Rafters coaches. Probably he'd be preparing to be a back-up player in his second year in college.
Herro played well, over all in the ncaat until the Auburn game. ALL of our freshmen played like freshmen that game.
You seems to be bringing race into this. Gee, wonder why?
It’s becuase they’re usually freshman and freshman typically don’t do well in those types of moments.
This is the main reason I don’t care for Cals approach in this regard. Relying on freshman shooters in the tournament setting is the main reason we don’t have more ships.
I thought it was a huge mistake that you are stupid enough to post this crap. I guess not.
Herro was loved by the fans because he’s a pure shooter. His stroke turned people on. Same as Lamb, and actually Lamb is the favorite SG among UK fans.
You White Goodman’s kill me. It’s just nonsense, and even if someone respects that Herro balls and he’s white, there’s nothing wrong with that. Plenty of black guys respect white ballers. You ever played with black guys and balled? They love it when a white kid lights up a gym.
Too many dork comments about this issue. Some of you are so racist against your own which should turn out well for your grandchildren when they’re a minority by the time they’re adults. History will show what happens when people partake in self hate and spread it. But good job, you called out white people and you’re white. That’s some brave **** in America 2019 bro.
He, our minutes leader and top shot taker, shot 18% from three in the NCAA when we desperately needed someone to knock down shots. That’s playing well? Not to me.
But it’s ignored and/or excused, blamed on Cal, blamed on anyone besides Herro.
So, you tell me why we have dumbF threads like this?
Pure shooter? He shot 35% from three for the season and 18% in the NCAA. What exactly is pure?
Don’t put him in the same sentence with Lamb - who hit huge shots his entire career and hit what- 48% from three his final season? lol
This is the exact kind of BS I’m talking about.
I said he’s got a pure stroke and he’s a shooter, which people like. Same thing with Lamb, who they like MORE.
Stop the self hating nonsense. It’s not cool anymore, hasn’t been since around 2009.
You said pure shooter. First sentence.
I’m not hating on Herro. I’m calling out the biased idiots on here and trying to figure out why.
I saw Hagans, Johnson, etc. get killed all year on here. I saw the Harrisons get killed. Meanwhile- excuses for Herro.
Cal’s fault for giving him the most minutes on the team, I guess.
None of those guys shot as badly as Herro in the NCAA. Look it up. I mean 18% and you guys are falling all over yourselves to excuse it- thus proving my point and feeding my curiosity.
Not all freshmen. Knight, Lamb, Harrison, Young, Jones, etc. And even the guys who weren’t great, shot a helluva lot better than 18%.
Not sure what you’re talking about with Twitter. I’m not a part of that cess pool.
Murray and Herro were both 3/16. Booker was 4/15 for 26%.
Hagans was 1/7 (14%). Johnson 5/15 (2/10 final 3 tourney games). Quickley was 3/13 (23%) 1/6 vs Aub.
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It blows my mind anyone can watch Herro play and think he's a pg. Did you not see the kids natural instinct of moving without the ball? Running screens non stop? He's the most natural 2g we have had
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Congratulations to Herro for shooting better than Hagans and nearly as well as Johnson’s 20% effort over the last two games. [thumb2]
It’s like Cal says- throw a rock in the pack and see who yelps loudest. Lol What view? My only view is a curiosity about why Herro gets a pass from the fanbase when others don’t.
Hell everyone has bad spurts. Nobody said he was the greatest tourney player we have had. All year long Herro looked to me like the best pro prospect on the team. Simply by the way he never stopped moving without the ball. Washington had a great year but Herro was the perfect example of what pro teams look for. A kid that goes hard with talent to work on
I looked it up as you asked. Murray=Herro in tourney 3%...you were wrong, sorry that hurt.
I also provided other members of last years team - some shot better than Herro, some worse. Worst thing about Herro was that he was plain bad when wide open...very frustrating. He was stuck with a bunch of terrible late shot clock attempts, but there isn't any excuse for missing the wide open ones he did.
I remember JM doing the same. Running off of screens, wing to wing. How about you give it a couple years before calling your shot.
It makes you wonder what would that lineup been able to do. With Herro at the point, they couldn't sag back like on Ashton creating more space. That was something I think hurt us the most was that defenses didn't have to respect our PG from deep. The way they could sag back crowded things up and left Ashton up top with little danger to the opposing team.
At the halfway point I spoke up about how I thought Herro would be the best option at PG when Ashton started to struggle. The way he drove to the basket and finished most times with scoop shots and contorting his body he was the most dangerous guard we had going to the rim but didn't do it enough. His passing was clearly one of the best and his floater was deadly. I always thought with his length, IQ and FT skills he would have been a great PG. I do get that Ashton couldn't shoot well enough to play the 2 and Cal also had Quickly. I think early on Cal wanted Ashton out there for defense as when he was on pace to break the UK steal record he was on fire. Cal could have made the change when Ashton started to struggle, but at that point, we were heading towards the end of the season and I guess he didn't want to mess with things because if most remember before RT went down we had hit our stride and looked to have gelled a little early. We had stomped UNC, U6, and KU along with a big win on the road at AUB.
I do think Cal could have given him small stretches just to see how the team responded, but that would have meant sitting Ashton down because he couldn't knock down enough shots at the 2 so I guess Cal decided to roll with him but it would have been nice to see Herro get a shot. I remember a decent amount of us were asking for it when Ashton started to struggle. That size, driving ability, passing and FT guarantee would have been fun to watch. I would have loved to have seen a lineup of Herro, Quickly, KJ, PJ, and RT play together in that order of position. I think that could have made us deadly from 3. Herro was streaky but knocked them down in bunches, Quickly might have been our best 3 point shooter if he could have got more minutes and KJ was pretty efficient from 3. Along with PJ who started to light it up from 3 and RT could stick one here and there for a big.
At the halfway point I spoke up about how I thought Herro would be the best option at PG when Ashton started to struggle. The way he drove to the basket and finished most times with scoop shots and contorting his body he was the most dangerous guard we had going to the rim but didn't do it enough. His passing was clearly one of the best and his floater was deadly. I always thought with his length, IQ and FT skills he would have been a great PG. I do get that Ashton couldn't shoot well enough to play the 2 and Cal also had Quickly. I think early on Cal wanted Ashton out there for defense as when he was on pace to break the UK steal record he was on fire. Cal could have made the change when Ashton started to struggle, but at that point, we were heading towards the end of the season and I guess he didn't want to mess with things because if most remember before RT went down we had hit our stride and looked to have gelled a little early. We had stomped UNC, U6, and KU along with a big win on the road at AUB.
I do think Cal could have given him small stretches just to see how the team responded, but that would have meant sitting Ashton down because he couldn't knock down enough shots at the 2 so I guess Cal decided to roll with him but it would have been nice to see Herro get a shot. I remember a decent amount of us were asking for it when Ashton started to struggle. That size, driving ability, passing and FT guarantee would have been fun to watch. I would have loved to have seen a lineup of Herro, Quickly, KJ, PJ, and RT play together in that order of position. I think that could have made us deadly from 3. Herro was streaky but knocked them down in bunches, Quickly might have been our best 3 point shooter if he could have got more minutes and KJ was pretty efficient from 3. Along with PJ who started to light it up from 3 and RT could stick one here and there for a big.
So we let our shooter dish the ball to none shooters?
Or we let him bring the ball up the floor and teams just runndoubke teams at him all game just to get the ball out of his hands?
No thanks, I'm good trusting Cal to come up with the schemes.
Or we let him bring the ball up the floor and teams just runndoubke teams at him all game just to get the ball out of his hands?
No thanks, I'm good trusting Cal to come up with the schemes.
A long time ago Coach Rupp beat Seattle and Elgin Baylor by taking the ball at Elgin and making him play defense there by tiring him out on the defensive end and making him played tired on offense. If Cal did anything wrong it was playing Tyler play defense on the other teams most active guard. I think it affected his shooting. But no one seemed to be able to stay in front of Harper in the Auburn game.
It would really be nice to see these young guards have enough time to mature into men at the college level. I understand it is the way it is. Maybe this year our two second year guards will be bigger and stronger. Hope so anyway. Go Cats!
Well, I am not sure how playing him at shooting guard, instead of pg changes his shot? It ruined him so much that he was the 35th ranked player in his class, and left UK as a freshman lottery pick. Cal sure screwed up.
I was thinking more of pick and rolls with PJ on some sets not having him play the point entire game and agree with Rideordie wildcat.
And definitely letting him bring the ball up the court off rebounds that got himself or if he was first option to get ball from a big man to get offense going.
Herro use to look to give it up almost immediately to PG and the Heat let him go ahead and bring it up and get offense moving.
Also, to the guy who said he was perfect two guard bc the way he came off screens.. he does that well but I have never seen a team have a guy continually run back and forth multiple times like that.
Looked pretty tiring. Especially, when Cal started using him to guard some of others teams top players.
Could have possibly affected his shot.. who knows.
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He will be going from play 40 minute games to 48 minute games and playing about 40 games to playing 82 not counting pre and post season
Exactly. Didn't matter what court or gym I stepped in and who was playing. I lit their asses up regardless. That's a fact.
By the way, I'm white.
This. The second highest scorer on the team was so over rated by the fans on here because he was white. Makes sense, in bizzaro world.
6-15, 5-10
7-21, 2-11
5-13, 4-9 (against china)
7-18, 1-8
totals: 25-67, 12-38
pure shooting tyler herro 37% from the floor, 31% from three. shooting numbers like that he might want to think about switching to PG.
7-21, 2-11
5-13, 4-9 (against china)
7-18, 1-8
totals: 25-67, 12-38
pure shooting tyler herro 37% from the floor, 31% from three. shooting numbers like that he might want to think about switching to PG.
I think most say he has a pure shooting stroke/form
and I can't recall a one and done SG lighting up the summer league or any even having a great (shooting) rookie year.