Hateful Eight
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I always get a kick
out of how big a gun control advocate Tarantino is, and then he goes out any makes these movies that glorify gun violence.
Do as I say, not as I do.
out of how big a gun control advocate Tarantino is, and then he goes out any makes these movies that glorify gun violence.
Do as I say, not as I do.
Tarantino has an IQ of 160. I'm sure he's considered whether he's glorifying gun violence or not.
I'm
not really sure his IQ has anything to do with the fact that he's being a huge hypocrite.
Do you not agree that he's being a hypocrite, given his stance on gun control and the subject of his movies glorifying guns?
not really sure his IQ has anything to do with the fact that he's being a huge hypocrite.
Do you not agree that he's being a hypocrite, given his stance on gun control and the subject of his movies glorifying guns?
Was about to ask the same
Just because he has a high IQ and has "considered" it doesn't mean he isn't doing it. He is absolutely glorifying what he is against. Smart people do dumb **** all the time. Especially for a healthy bottom line
Just because he has a high IQ and has "considered" it doesn't mean he isn't doing it. He is absolutely glorifying what he is against. Smart people do dumb **** all the time. Especially for a healthy bottom line
I like his movies and they are all (from what I've seen) quite violent. But I have to ask, is portraying graphic violence the same as celebrating it? Can an argument be made that he is just being realistic about our collective fascination with violence?
In my
opinion, there's a difference in "celbrating" and "glorifying" it.
For the record, I enjoy his movies, for the most part. I think he tries to hard to duplicate some of the themes in classics, though.
opinion, there's a difference in "celbrating" and "glorifying" it.
For the record, I enjoy his movies, for the most part. I think he tries to hard to duplicate some of the themes in classics, though.
I guess my question is, can you portray gun violence without moralizing against guns and their real life consequences in a movie for the sake of realism without "glorifying" them? Or does any movie that includes gun violence but does not include a moral theme against guns inherently glorify gun use? I'm not saying his movies are extremely realistic, but they aren't too far out of this world.
They are
pretty far out. Have you every seen Django or (although not guns) Kill Bill. People get shot/cut and 30 gallons of blood go flying in the air.
I think you can most certainly have movies with themes involving guns that don't make them look like he portrays it. He goes overboard in an unrealistic manner, to me.
pretty far out. Have you every seen Django or (although not guns) Kill Bill. People get shot/cut and 30 gallons of blood go flying in the air.
I think you can most certainly have movies with themes involving guns that don't make them look like he portrays it. He goes overboard in an unrealistic manner, to me.
I'm just saying, he's an intelligent guy. He's repeatedly said that he doesn't feel there is a correlation between depictions of gun violence, in movies or video games, and gun violence in real life.
Not saying I do or don't agree with him, I'm just saying I'm sure he's considered his statements and doesn't feel that he is.
Not saying I do or don't agree with him, I'm just saying I'm sure he's considered his statements and doesn't feel that he is.
Regardless of his IQ, the guy is an insufferable blowhard & looks like he always smells a fart. Tarantino is way too impressed with Tarantino. Despite what he & his worshippers think, he is not Hollywood's King Midas. Don't get me wrong I enjoy a good many of his films, but still can't stand him as a person.
But, you know, that's just like my opinion, man. I may be the only man on the planet that doesn't like Kill Bill. Four Rooms was infinitely better.
But, you know, that's just like my opinion, man. I may be the only man on the planet that doesn't like Kill Bill. Four Rooms was infinitely better.
Yep, if you stopped enjoying artists for their opinions it would suck. Pretty sure 98% of this board disagrees with Zachary De La Rocha's extreme views, but Rage against the Machine made some great music.
I agree with you. Most celebrities are going to have different opinions from the rest of us. I will say though, it's annoying to see celebs condemning gun violence but then making millions of dollars portraying gun violence.
I seen hateful eight and I didn't like it. I really don't like many of his movies as they go overboard with violence and blood. About the only movie I liked of his was the one with vampires with clooney in it.
Well
I don't think ones alleged intelligence disqualifies them from being a hypocrite.
While objectively measuring his glorification of guns cannot be quantified, he certainly doesn't send the message that "guns are the devil," in his films.
I don't think ones alleged intelligence disqualifies them from being a hypocrite.
While objectively measuring his glorification of guns cannot be quantified, he certainly doesn't send the message that "guns are the devil," in his films.
Wouldnt piss on the last reel if it was on fire. The hoolywood elitist liberal can go to hell.
i think the error is that you think someone has to think "guns are the devil" to be for gun control. you can love guns and also think it's not a good idea to allow guns in bars, for example.
If they would just stick to being actors and directors, I agree 100%. BUT, when they make millions from movies glorifying gun violence and then preach about need for gun control .. or when they become 'environmentalists' yet have six homes, multiple jets and 'own' a carbon footprint of some small cities, then they are HYPOCRITES and I don't need to hear what they say. Just stick to doing what they are good at.
no, i didn't. you just haven't thought of a new point yet to claim was your point all along to cover for being an idiot with your first one.
did not like either Kill Bill. Also did not like Inglorious Bastards.
The guy pretty much ran out of good ideas after Pulp Fiction. Jackie Brown was good but that was because Elmore Leonard wrote it.
The guy pretty much ran out of good ideas after Pulp Fiction. Jackie Brown was good but that was because Elmore Leonard wrote it.
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Tarantino would be hypocritical if he railed against gun use and supported gun control, and then was found to own dozens of firearms. Or if he then used a gun to shoot someone. Or if he supported a gun toting killer.
But that would have to happen in, you know, real life.
I am confident that Tarantino would be against vampires if ever asked, yet it would be absurd to say he is hypocritical due to having written From Dusk till Dawn.
To be hypocritical, he needs to contradict his stance in real life and not in a fantasy world where nothing is real.
It may seem like a small difference- reality vs fantasy, but its actually significantly different.
I'm not going
to get in a debate and nitpick over the definition of a word because that is not the point of my statements. My point was that the man makes many films where he glorifies gun violence. He then goes out in public and vehemently denounces gun violence.
I understand he's not going around shooting up gas stations or committing mass murders in his free time.
To me, that is somewhat funny. To you, it's not.
to get in a debate and nitpick over the definition of a word because that is not the point of my statements. My point was that the man makes many films where he glorifies gun violence. He then goes out in public and vehemently denounces gun violence.
I understand he's not going around shooting up gas stations or committing mass murders in his free time.
To me, that is somewhat funny. To you, it's not.
Nitpick? Really?!? That word, hypocrite, is the entire basis of your posts. You are saying he is inconsistent and therefore hypocritical. But he isnt and I showed why- life and art are not the same thing.