Hagans update from Cal
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Maybe we should do it with the whole team and blame it on the virus
Cal sounds sick as a dog. He is probably being quarantined and unable to meet with Hagans.
That is probably a fax,and who wants to bet that the first shot that Hagans makes on Friday that the announcer will say "Hagans was right on the money with that one"
Why would anyone look at him like he's a weak head case when they have no idea what he's going through?
This ain’t easy, life ain’t easy sometimes either.
I dont have twitter , dont have IG , nor snap chat .. nor listen to KSR --I get my Ky news here and whatever pops up on the few facebook accounts I have that follow UK. I havent heard or seen anything factual about the money being from a car sale or verification it was from a few weeks ago. If you could link it I'd appreciate it. I hope it was . Still a really really DUMB thing to do. And no way I would be critical of the source -- like we wouldnt ROAST a UL player doing the same . Just be real .
You believe Cal when he says he hasnt spoken to Ashton ? To me that seems bizarre , several days pass , no communication ? Even if Cal is under the weather there is thing called a cell phone.
Yes I think Hagans was suspended , no I dont mind Cal trying to protect him . So I'm good with going forward with Ashton if his head is on right and Cal says he's good. But the whole " I havent talked to him" is just a head scratcher .
No, I don't buy it all. I think he likely suspended Hagans for the game and didn't allow him to travel with the team. I think Hagans had some well-defined parameters for making a return, which he likely had to agree to before Cal would ok it. I don't believe Cal hasn't spoken to Hagans at all. I would not be surprised if they have not had the necessary "heart to heart" kind of talk that would be needed for all to be well and for the discipline to be complete. But I don't have any doubt that Hagans will agree to whatever Coach Cal says nor do I doubt that Calipari fully intends for Hagans to play in the SEC-T and beyond.
I agree that this is all intriguing, but we are really good at making mountains out of molehills. Those around here who already dislike Hagans don't need any excuse to give him down the road. Those who dislike both Hagans AND Calipari relish this kind of thing. They are able to speculate in any number of directions and attempt to make them both look bad. That's the part that irritates me.
Or maybe he wanted to wait to see how Hagans would react to the honors given out since that was a big part of his sulking pity party anyway. If he immediately spoke with him and he's saying all the right things and then this happens and he acts like a ****head again, you have issues. Now you can put it simple-in or out?
No, most of us don't believe Cal hasn't talked to him. That is just how Cal addresses it for US the fans. He isn't going to tell us anything. We don't have to know. Everything Cal says usually is just Cal-speak for us fans.
Just being honst - I hate having smoke blown up my rear . If Cal doesnt want the fans to know about it he doesnt have to say anything . Period. Or state " I'm not discussing it , its an internal thing" and no one would question it . But when you say you havent spoke to a suspended star player in a few days it just sounds far out. Whatever . I trust Cal to make the right decision --although he gives players a large leeway and a huge amount of freedom . Hope this one doesnt bite us in the rear . It make all come out fine , but Ashton plays bad its not going to look good on Cal or Ashton. And always . Just Win. Cures a multitude of opinions .
FWIW I didnt believe it either , and I hate Cal speak . Its funny that Cal does it so often we have coined a term for it " Cal Speak"
You are just a ray of sunshine. Total joy. Good job.
But if he doesn't address it then some are complaining that he isn't telling us anything(he isn't anyway) or that he is being lax. I personally think that he has handled it. Whether Ashton improves on the court and off, is up to Ashton. But, I too trust Cal will handle it. But the timing of it all is not good. But could have been worse. Just got to let it all play out. It isn't in any of our hands anyway (and that is a good thing. lol)
I really don't care if he plays or not. Seems to becoming more of a distraction than anything. And to be honest, from what we've seen from him lately, I'm not sure he's any help to us at this point anyway.
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If Cal needs an introduction I’m sure Kenny could arrange it. Or Cal could just sneak into practice.
You know, I realize his shot is broken and he has blown a lot of layups, but he's still the best on-ball defender in the country and might actually be THE best defender in the country period.
He seems to have licked his turnover issue as well and honestly, he's still the best guy we have to facilitate our offense. His assist numbers tell you that.
I've been hard on him all year, mainly because his turnovers are/were just so bad, but I still like the upside of this team better with him at the 1 over anyone else we have.
This and a couple of bucks might get us some coffee but we agree almost 100% as to our take on things.You are usually spot on in your take on things,I was beginning to think I was out in left field somewhere.
I see what you're saying but your upside point is from November and December. He isn't the same player he was then or maybe now it's just better competition. His turnovers are still a huge issue. During the month of February and the one game this month he played, he's had 47 assists to 36 turnovers. He's not that good of a defender. He gambles too much and is constantly getting beat off the dribble.
Look at the stats from every game we've lost this year with the exception of Ohio State. A case could be made that he was the main reason we lost those games. What worries me is how Cal has made it clear that he's riding or dying with him.
Just don't understand why people talk about him like he's John Wall.
We need him, minus the malcontent. If for nothing else, for guard depth.
Why would we only focus on the games we lost? That's only 6 games. Why wouldn’t we focus on the 25 we won? He made the plays down the stretch in a lot of games for us. He won the Texas Tech game at the end and is an absolute nightmare for anyone that has the ball.
Like I said, I've been hard on him all year, but we have to stick with him, because without him, this team wouldn’t make it out of the first weekend.
I'm hoping this minnie suspension will set him straight and get him going.
I know, wish in one hand and sh*t in the other… .
I hear ya. I'm usually optimistic with Cal's teams in March but not so much with this one with everything going on. Depending on who shows up, we can lose in the first round or make a run at a Final Four. Good thing we have the SEC tournament to try and straighten these things out. Only time will tell.
We all want this, no matter what the pumpers say, I am just leery we get the good Ashton or the bad Ashton.
Are you seriously blaming all the games we lost on him? That's some unbelievable **** there and shows you are not objective about Hagans at all.
We've got to ride with him or lose the first weekend.
I love AH and his defense. But no way is he the best on-ball defender in the country. He’s a great defender, but does most of his damage in other ways. He’s sneaky, pays attention, predicts well, and knows how to disrupt either in his area, and even away from it. But on-ball, I don’t see it. Gets blown by way too much.
This board is filled with posters that need something to worry about or they are not happy. It’s one thing after another. They keep starting post about this virus, and I’d bet there at least 10 post on it. They are like an old ladies sewing circle. They take a subject and keep projecting BS conspiracy theories to feed their needs. Hagans has been worn out on RR and HOB. We lose a game the Cal and team haters come out. We win people find something to ***** about to make it lees enjoyable. I’ve started ignoring those people and it makes things more bearable.
I love Cal and I trust what he tells us. I love our team and I know it will all work it’s way out. I do believe in aliens from another world or worlds but never seen one. Well, maybe my neighbor is one but I just can’t prove it yet. Most conspiracy theories are just that, so I don’t worry about them. If these posters knew how stupid their post makes them look they might think twice about posting what if’s.
If he can't be happy for his teammates, move on from him. No room for that anytime, especially this time of year. It's win or go home now.
this thread is about hagans’ status coming back to playing your thread was about the video of hagans
just spreading the message, it was fake money, since majority don't know this, and even our own moderator closed my thread and stopped it from being shared as he would apparently rather have the 15 page thread of nonsense and assumptions continue on
He is great at freelancing on defense, but far from a lock down defender.