He should have gone with ranting and raving about the FBI WITCH HUNT messing with his recruiting. I mean, we would totally get it.
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No, you idiot. There is NO LIMIT (#makeemsayughhh) in the NBA on practice, scrimmaging, coaching, one-on-one, drills, or anything else.
The notion that you can get better by doing these on a limited basis against teenagers and improve, but NOT in the NBA, is preposterously stupid.
The notion that you can get better by doing these on a limited basis against teenagers and improve, but NOT in the NBA, is preposterously stupid.
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And you automatically lose any argument that drops a “on National tv” blast.
Those next four games on NATIONAL TELEVISION SEC NETWORK are gonna be huge!!!
I'm as f*cking homer as it gets, and I don't really see anyone calling for his job, but damn man. Last 2 weeks have been brutal.
*We watched a guy that should be on our team f*cking boat race us by 34
*Lost another top recruit that we've had locked up for years
*missed a golden opp to go to a final 4 last year by losing to Kansas St and Bruce f*cking Weber
*Came into this season with expectations that we wouldn't be struggling early and we look like absolute dogshit, I'm actually most pissed off about this. I have no idea what the hell happened from August until November.
Like I said earlier, how about we start by playing some defense and figuring out why Tyler Herro looks drunk on the court?
Something you’d like to say to me, Chad?
You aren’t getting any younger.
“Our next challenge is to chase UCLA’s 11 titles,” Calipari wrote. “I hope you understand that it’s going to be very difficult. We’ve won eight titles since 1948 and now we’re going to try to win four more. This could take more than a decade, but so what? Let’s chase it.”
“Our next challenge is to chase UCLA’s 11 titles,” Calipari wrote. “I hope you understand that it’s going to be very difficult. We’ve won eight titles since 1948 and now we’re going to try to win four more. This could take more than a decade, but so what? Let’s chase it.”
Yeah, what the hell. I'll get into an old-fashioned GYERO pissing match on this to hopefully distract from the other ******** going around right now.
Unlimited in the NBA, per Ursch:
-Practice Time/Scrimmaging: With an 82 game schedule, and 3 months of playoffs looming, how often do you think Brad Stevens is putting the Celts through 3 hour practices during the year? You really think most NBA teams practice dramatically more than Kentucky does during the season? False.
-One-on-one instruction/Drills: Again, with this UNLIMITED practice time during the season, how much time do you think the Magic are going to spend coaching Isaiah Briscoe on his jump shot? Maybe a little video work, a few minutes of one-on-one, and then- go get your damn shots up...same as you could do in college. The NBA isn't going to hold your hand, especially if you're a late first/second round pick.
Unlimited in College:
-Individual work.
-Pickup games with teammates, or if you're at the Craft Center, NBA players who come back for the summer.
-Working out/conditioning
-Any activities in Christmas break, including coaching and individual instruction (CAMP CAL LOL)
-Sorority trim.
Limited in the NBA:
-Actual time on the basketball court, playing the game of basketball competitively.
Yes, you're playing against better players, but there's a difference in scrimmaging against them, and being on the court, trying to win a game.
Just because there's no regulatory limit on some of these things doesn't mean that NBA teams are going to spend 40 hours a week working on Hami Diallo's jump shot. You've got to put the work in at the pro level, same as you do in college. Any player with NBA aspirations who's actually adhering to the 20 hour rule is not going to make it in the NBA. Period. Guys can still develop in the NBA, but acting like just getting reps as essentially a scout-team dummy will unequivocally make you a better player than trying to make plays down the stretch in a tie game on the road is asinine.
I really hope you find a new job soon. This UKO-lite shtick is going to get old quick if all you have to do all day is wack and argue on GYERO.
Cal shouldn't be sleeping at night right now. He should be waking up in a cold sweat with the understanding that he is getting outworked on the recruiting trail, and outcoached on the floor.
"Sorority trim" as an advantage of going to college? I have to imagine New York Knick groupie trim is going to be much more fun to a 19-year old super-athlete than some prissy Theta.
From another board:
I didn't want to plug any name in the title as I'm just not a fan of spreading anything by prying eyes.
And I want it on record that I do not think Cal's recruiting has dipped much like many do. We have missed on some bigger targets the last few years. And it didn't seem we missed as much before. We have definitely slowed down with some of the Top 5 guys.
I also am one that thinks that some of this is just the lingering effect of that Duke blowout.
But, we aren't getting the top, top guys like we were early in Cal's tenure.
Personally, I think there are numerous factors into this:
He built incredible relationships with NBA players, agents, shoe companies, celebrities, etc. He was the connector. The guy who could get Carmelo, Jay-Z, Denzel and Phil Knight all in the same room. And he was the only guy who could. Everyone trusted him.
As a teenager, he became close friends with a guy named Leon Rose. They met when WWW was working at a shoe store in a strip mall. Even then, WWW could sell anything. And he and Rose started a friendship over their mutual love for basketball.
Leon Rose is now one of the top agents in the world for CAA. And was Lebron's agent for many of his years in the NBA (more about that later).
This gave Wes even more influence all over the game of basketball. He and Coach Cal became close friends. At some point (and no one will admit this), he was Cal's agent. Officially, CAA represented Cal, but everyone knew who was really the agent. He also represented Barbee and Kenny Payne (even though they were all at different schools). He and Payne are very very close (more on this below).
I will skip some really fun details, but suffice to say Wes is the reason Cal got Derrick Rose and Dejuan Wagner. THE reason (side note: Pastner used to get a lot of credit for being Cal's big recruiter just like Antigua. Everyone in the business knows neither of them are the reason Cal gets recruits. Which is why both have failed miserably on their own).
Wes was responsible for Rose passing the ACT. Dejaun's father was close friends with Wes when Wes was younger. Dejuan was his godson and Wes watched over him while his father played overseas. This been the long term relationship with Wes and Cal. Rose came after of course.
Wes's secret to success was his relationship with Michael Jordan. Most think they became close when Dejuan Wagner's father Milt was in the NBA. Milt and Wes had become friends in Camden where Wes grew up and Milt was a star basketball player. Milt went to school at UL, where he met a young Kenny Payne. They became very close friends then and that led to Wes and Payne becoming close friends.
Back to Jordan: Over time, Wes became one of MJ's closest confidants. He would watch games from suites and gamble late nights with MJ. When Milt played with the Lakers Wes began forming friendships on the West Coast as well.
Leon Rose was a nobody agent in the NBA. But Wes began bringing him talent and before long he was a serious power broker. Almost everyone knows Wes was getting paid the majority of the agents fees. He was helping guys get mortgages etc.
In 2005, Lebron James signs with Leon Rose. Wes was the only reason why. Wes had been trying to get into Lebron's inner circle since his days in High School (he lived in Cleveland while Dejuan played there). And it wasn't until Wes introduced him to Jay-Z that Lebron finally let him in. Part of the agreement with Lebron and Leon Rose was that Rose would groom one of Lebron's close friends from Akron: Rich Paul (more on this later).
Wes served important roles for Nike and Reebok. He went with Team USA to the Olympics in Athens in 2004. Stayed with the team in their personal lodging. That is where he became very very close to Lebron, Carmelo, Wade and Paul. He was the architect of the banana boat crew.
Just an example of the power of Wes during this time: Wes convinced the Knicks to draft two of his guys (Balkman and Collins) in the 2006 NBA draft. He had use his influence with Lebron as a carrot to NY to draft those guys. The Knicks believed they had a legit shot to get Lebron if they drafted them. Both flamed out quickly and Lebron signed an extension with the Cavs a month later.
When Cal went to UK, Wes's influence went with him. Wall. MKG. AD. And more. When UK won the title in 2012, AD and MKG ran into the stands to hug their "Uncle Wes".
Two months later, Wes was there when the Heat won the title. Here he is pictured with Lebron's inner circle:
Leon Rose is the white guy. Maverick Carter, Lebron's best friend and business mogul is in front. Lynn Merritt, the Senior VP of Nike. And Rich Paul (more on him to come) his friend from Ohio who Rose was grooming as an agent.
Problems started in 2013 for Wes/UK. Cal didn't leave UK for the Cavs as Wes had been trying to orchestrate in 2010. But they stayed close after that. Wes had officially begun working for CAA (against Cal's wishes) and that made it difficult for him to come around the program as often. Cal using CAA as his agency helped, but still made it more difficult. Btw, Cal and Drake's friendship was all because of Wes as well.
In the 2013 NCAA tourney, the NCAA had security escort Wes from the arena. There are pictures of it online. Most think Rick Pitino was the reason for it as he had been crying foul for years.
This began to shine a spotlight on Wes and Cal like never before and they eventually started backing away from each other.
Cal and Lebron were also very close (Wes is the reason Lebron was the "Y" at a UK game). When Lebron left Wes and Leon Rose to go with Klutch sports and his good friend Rich Paul it made things even more difficult.
Klutch and Rich Paul also represent Eric Bledsoe and MKG. They were two of his earliest signees. Cal wouldn't play ball with Nike and that caused an even bigger issue at the time.
Some people believe Cal saw the writing on the wall and backed away from Wes before the NCAA came calling. Some believe they are still very close and just do business in secret. Some believe James caused a rift between them. Some believe Wes doesn't have the same influence on recruits as he used to.
Whatever the case, he isn't seen or heard from nearly as much around UK (there have been spotted sightings). Wes is still VERY tied into the NBA.
Which is why when AD bought a house in LA and then signed with Klutch/Paul/Lebron over CAA/Rose/Wes many people on the inside believe the writing is on the wall for AD to join Lebron in LaLa land. It was a severe power struggle that Cal was in the very middle of as he has massive influence on AD and had friends on both sides.
How much has it all affected UK's recruiting? No one will know. But I could flat name you several recruits Wes has delivered to other Nike schools not named UK.
If you search hard enough, you can document most of what I posted here. Most of my info on this comes from two people I have known for a very long time. An AAU coach who has ties across the basketball landscape (and knows Wes well). And a D-1 basketball coach I have known since High School. They told me Melo was going to NY (Wes was the broker in that trade) before even Woj knew. And they told me Lebron was going to LA almost two years ago.
Maybe the AD thing never happens. Maybe the league squashes it (they won't) like they did with Wes's friend Chris Paul when he orchestrated the trade to the Lakers. Maybe feelings get hurt and things change. But for now, all signs point to it.
There is more. Lots of it. But my fingers are tired. Ha.
And I want it on record that I do not think Cal's recruiting has dipped much like many do. We have missed on some bigger targets the last few years. And it didn't seem we missed as much before. We have definitely slowed down with some of the Top 5 guys.
I also am one that thinks that some of this is just the lingering effect of that Duke blowout.
But, we aren't getting the top, top guys like we were early in Cal's tenure.
Personally, I think there are numerous factors into this:
1. Some cheat. I'm not sure Cal does (if he did not anymore).
2. Others have entered the OAD game. This means there is more competition for the top guys now more than ever. Cal was ahead of this trend and everyone else is catching up. That was inevitable.
3. Platooning in 2015: Maybe it only hurt us for a year, but Cal admitted it did. I believe him. I heard it myself from recruits.
4. Cal coaching the Under 18 squad. This hurt him with several guys.
5. The lessening influence of WWW. Which is what this post is about.
If you go back to the early 2000's, Wes was THE most influential broker in all of basketball. He was a genius at building relationships with top recruits when they were very young and keeping those relationships. He built trust with the family that he was in it for their benefit (and many believe he was). 2. Others have entered the OAD game. This means there is more competition for the top guys now more than ever. Cal was ahead of this trend and everyone else is catching up. That was inevitable.
3. Platooning in 2015: Maybe it only hurt us for a year, but Cal admitted it did. I believe him. I heard it myself from recruits.
4. Cal coaching the Under 18 squad. This hurt him with several guys.
5. The lessening influence of WWW. Which is what this post is about.
He built incredible relationships with NBA players, agents, shoe companies, celebrities, etc. He was the connector. The guy who could get Carmelo, Jay-Z, Denzel and Phil Knight all in the same room. And he was the only guy who could. Everyone trusted him.
As a teenager, he became close friends with a guy named Leon Rose. They met when WWW was working at a shoe store in a strip mall. Even then, WWW could sell anything. And he and Rose started a friendship over their mutual love for basketball.
Leon Rose is now one of the top agents in the world for CAA. And was Lebron's agent for many of his years in the NBA (more about that later).
This gave Wes even more influence all over the game of basketball. He and Coach Cal became close friends. At some point (and no one will admit this), he was Cal's agent. Officially, CAA represented Cal, but everyone knew who was really the agent. He also represented Barbee and Kenny Payne (even though they were all at different schools). He and Payne are very very close (more on this below).
I will skip some really fun details, but suffice to say Wes is the reason Cal got Derrick Rose and Dejuan Wagner. THE reason (side note: Pastner used to get a lot of credit for being Cal's big recruiter just like Antigua. Everyone in the business knows neither of them are the reason Cal gets recruits. Which is why both have failed miserably on their own).
Wes was responsible for Rose passing the ACT. Dejaun's father was close friends with Wes when Wes was younger. Dejuan was his godson and Wes watched over him while his father played overseas. This been the long term relationship with Wes and Cal. Rose came after of course.
Wes's secret to success was his relationship with Michael Jordan. Most think they became close when Dejuan Wagner's father Milt was in the NBA. Milt and Wes had become friends in Camden where Wes grew up and Milt was a star basketball player. Milt went to school at UL, where he met a young Kenny Payne. They became very close friends then and that led to Wes and Payne becoming close friends.
Back to Jordan: Over time, Wes became one of MJ's closest confidants. He would watch games from suites and gamble late nights with MJ. When Milt played with the Lakers Wes began forming friendships on the West Coast as well.
Leon Rose was a nobody agent in the NBA. But Wes began bringing him talent and before long he was a serious power broker. Almost everyone knows Wes was getting paid the majority of the agents fees. He was helping guys get mortgages etc.
In 2005, Lebron James signs with Leon Rose. Wes was the only reason why. Wes had been trying to get into Lebron's inner circle since his days in High School (he lived in Cleveland while Dejuan played there). And it wasn't until Wes introduced him to Jay-Z that Lebron finally let him in. Part of the agreement with Lebron and Leon Rose was that Rose would groom one of Lebron's close friends from Akron: Rich Paul (more on this later).
Wes served important roles for Nike and Reebok. He went with Team USA to the Olympics in Athens in 2004. Stayed with the team in their personal lodging. That is where he became very very close to Lebron, Carmelo, Wade and Paul. He was the architect of the banana boat crew.
Just an example of the power of Wes during this time: Wes convinced the Knicks to draft two of his guys (Balkman and Collins) in the 2006 NBA draft. He had use his influence with Lebron as a carrot to NY to draft those guys. The Knicks believed they had a legit shot to get Lebron if they drafted them. Both flamed out quickly and Lebron signed an extension with the Cavs a month later.
When Cal went to UK, Wes's influence went with him. Wall. MKG. AD. And more. When UK won the title in 2012, AD and MKG ran into the stands to hug their "Uncle Wes".
Two months later, Wes was there when the Heat won the title. Here he is pictured with Lebron's inner circle:
Leon Rose is the white guy. Maverick Carter, Lebron's best friend and business mogul is in front. Lynn Merritt, the Senior VP of Nike. And Rich Paul (more on him to come) his friend from Ohio who Rose was grooming as an agent.
Problems started in 2013 for Wes/UK. Cal didn't leave UK for the Cavs as Wes had been trying to orchestrate in 2010. But they stayed close after that. Wes had officially begun working for CAA (against Cal's wishes) and that made it difficult for him to come around the program as often. Cal using CAA as his agency helped, but still made it more difficult. Btw, Cal and Drake's friendship was all because of Wes as well.
In the 2013 NCAA tourney, the NCAA had security escort Wes from the arena. There are pictures of it online. Most think Rick Pitino was the reason for it as he had been crying foul for years.
This began to shine a spotlight on Wes and Cal like never before and they eventually started backing away from each other.
Cal and Lebron were also very close (Wes is the reason Lebron was the "Y" at a UK game). When Lebron left Wes and Leon Rose to go with Klutch sports and his good friend Rich Paul it made things even more difficult.
Klutch and Rich Paul also represent Eric Bledsoe and MKG. They were two of his earliest signees. Cal wouldn't play ball with Nike and that caused an even bigger issue at the time.
Some people believe Cal saw the writing on the wall and backed away from Wes before the NCAA came calling. Some believe they are still very close and just do business in secret. Some believe James caused a rift between them. Some believe Wes doesn't have the same influence on recruits as he used to.
Whatever the case, he isn't seen or heard from nearly as much around UK (there have been spotted sightings). Wes is still VERY tied into the NBA.
Which is why when AD bought a house in LA and then signed with Klutch/Paul/Lebron over CAA/Rose/Wes many people on the inside believe the writing is on the wall for AD to join Lebron in LaLa land. It was a severe power struggle that Cal was in the very middle of as he has massive influence on AD and had friends on both sides.
How much has it all affected UK's recruiting? No one will know. But I could flat name you several recruits Wes has delivered to other Nike schools not named UK.
If you search hard enough, you can document most of what I posted here. Most of my info on this comes from two people I have known for a very long time. An AAU coach who has ties across the basketball landscape (and knows Wes well). And a D-1 basketball coach I have known since High School. They told me Melo was going to NY (Wes was the broker in that trade) before even Woj knew. And they told me Lebron was going to LA almost two years ago.
Maybe the AD thing never happens. Maybe the league squashes it (they won't) like they did with Wes's friend Chris Paul when he orchestrated the trade to the Lakers. Maybe feelings get hurt and things change. But for now, all signs point to it.
There is more. Lots of it. But my fingers are tired. Ha.
Cal is going to be fine, like wcc and Anth have pointed out, many of the best coaches have had to reinvent themselves. He will as well, he’s too competitive not to.
...but there are obvious issues, hard to ignore them at the moment.
...but there are obvious issues, hard to ignore them at the moment.
Exercising, pickup games, sex with white girls.
Not sure why any of these ball players ever leave college. Quite an impressive list.
Not sure why any of these ball players ever leave college. Quite an impressive list.
As noted I'm all for guys chasing their dreams, getting paid, becoming professionals but we've also had a few transfer over the years. While unlimited practice is great it also comes with growing the f*ck up and paying rent/bills/etc where at UK you get most of that and have no bills or responsibilities other than a couple online gen ed classes.
We have some dorky analytics guy from UNC Wilmington recruiting against Penny Hardaway, don't need to write a novel to see what the issue is.
Again, if Wiseman is your biggest issue you obviously don't follow recruiting. The kid committed to his hometown team, AAU coach, and mentor. Really hard to lay this one on Cal or JJ. Now, not having a backup plan is all on them.
Wiseman is more Tubby's fault than Cal's, IMO.
The stories about Knox being lazy are driving Knicks fans bonkers. The funniest part is that the Knicks front office basically said they made Knox promise them he'd try hard or they wouldn't draft him. Can you imagine being 19 years old and and somebody said, "look man, promise me you'll try hard and I'll give you $4M per year." "Uh... sure boss! I promise! Sign me up!"
And speaking of Knox being lazy... I know this is a week old, but in case you missed it, this clip alone is pretty telling when it comes to the problems with last year's team. That's Knox lollygagging down the floor after Diallo stole the ball.
And speaking of Knox being lazy... I know this is a week old, but in case you missed it, this clip alone is pretty telling when it comes to the problems with last year's team. That's Knox lollygagging down the floor after Diallo stole the ball.
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Just got one of those straight razor shaves at a barber. Warm towel, badger brush, sharpening the blade on an old strip of leather, etc . Was my first time, highly recommend. Probably how my wife feels after a mani/pedi.
Maybe it’s because I only became a fan of UK my freshman year in 1999 and my barometer is post final four Tubby and THE BCG, but I find this hand wringing over Cal both fascinating and completely insane.
Maybe it’s because I only became a fan of UK my freshman year in 1999 and my barometer is post final four Tubby and THE BCG, but I find this hand wringing over Cal both fascinating and completely insane.
From another board:
I didn't want to plug any name in the title as I'm just not a fan of spreading anything by prying eyes.
And I want it on record that I do not think Cal's recruiting has dipped much like many do. We have missed on some bigger targets the last few years. And it didn't seem we missed as much before. We have definitely slowed down with some of the Top 5 guys.
I also am one that thinks that some of this is just the lingering effect of that Duke blowout.
But, we aren't getting the top, top guys like we were early in Cal's tenure.
Personally, I think there are numerous factors into this:
1. Some cheat. I'm not sure Cal does (if he did not anymore).If you go back to the early 2000's, Wes was THE most influential broker in all of basketball. He was a genius at building relationships with top recruits when they were very young and keeping those relationships. He built trust with the family that he was in it for their benefit (and many believe he was).
2. Others have entered the OAD game. This means there is more competition for the top guys now more than ever. Cal was ahead of this trend and everyone else is catching up. That was inevitable.
3. Platooning in 2015: Maybe it only hurt us for a year, but Cal admitted it did. I believe him. I heard it myself from recruits.
4. Cal coaching the Under 18 squad. This hurt him with several guys.
5. The lessening influence of WWW. Which is what this post is about.
He built incredible relationships with NBA players, agents, shoe companies, celebrities, etc. He was the connector. The guy who could get Carmelo, Jay-Z, Denzel and Phil Knight all in the same room. And he was the only guy who could. Everyone trusted him.
As a teenager, he became close friends with a guy named Leon Rose. They met when WWW was working at a shoe store in a strip mall. Even then, WWW could sell anything. And he and Rose started a friendship over their mutual love for basketball.
Leon Rose is now one of the top agents in the world for CAA. And was Lebron's agent for many of his years in the NBA (more about that later).
This gave Wes even more influence all over the game of basketball. He and Coach Cal became close friends. At some point (and no one will admit this), he was Cal's agent. Officially, CAA represented Cal, but everyone knew who was really the agent. He also represented Barbee and Kenny Payne (even though they were all at different schools). He and Payne are very very close (more on this below).
I will skip some really fun details, but suffice to say Wes is the reason Cal got Derrick Rose and Dejuan Wagner. THE reason (side note: Pastner used to get a lot of credit for being Cal's big recruiter just like Antigua. Everyone in the business knows neither of them are the reason Cal gets recruits. Which is why both have failed miserably on their own).
Wes was responsible for Rose passing the ACT. Dejaun's father was close friends with Wes when Wes was younger. Dejuan was his godson and Wes watched over him while his father played overseas. This been the long term relationship with Wes and Cal. Rose came after of course.
Wes's secret to success was his relationship with Michael Jordan. Most think they became close when Dejuan Wagner's father Milt was in the NBA. Milt and Wes had become friends in Camden where Wes grew up and Milt was a star basketball player. Milt went to school at UL, where he met a young Kenny Payne. They became very close friends then and that led to Wes and Payne becoming close friends.
Back to Jordan: Over time, Wes became one of MJ's closest confidants. He would watch games from suites and gamble late nights with MJ. When Milt played with the Lakers Wes began forming friendships on the West Coast as well.
Leon Rose was a nobody agent in the NBA. But Wes began bringing him talent and before long he was a serious power broker. Almost everyone knows Wes was getting paid the majority of the agents fees. He was helping guys get mortgages etc.
In 2005, Lebron James signs with Leon Rose. Wes was the only reason why. Wes had been trying to get into Lebron's inner circle since his days in High School (he lived in Cleveland while Dejuan played there). And it wasn't until Wes introduced him to Jay-Z that Lebron finally let him in. Part of the agreement with Lebron and Leon Rose was that Rose would groom one of Lebron's close friends from Akron: Rich Paul (more on this later).
Wes served important roles for Nike and Reebok. He went with Team USA to the Olympics in Athens in 2004. Stayed with the team in their personal lodging. That is where he became very very close to Lebron, Carmelo, Wade and Paul. He was the architect of the banana boat crew.
Just an example of the power of Wes during this time: Wes convinced the Knicks to draft two of his guys (Balkman and Collins) in the 2006 NBA draft. He had use his influence with Lebron as a carrot to NY to draft those guys. The Knicks believed they had a legit shot to get Lebron if they drafted them. Both flamed out quickly and Lebron signed an extension with the Cavs a month later.
When Cal went to UK, Wes's influence went with him. Wall. MKG. AD. And more. When UK won the title in 2012, AD and MKG ran into the stands to hug their "Uncle Wes".
Two months later, Wes was there when the Heat won the title. Here he is pictured with Lebron's inner circle:
Leon Rose is the white guy. Maverick Carter, Lebron's best friend and business mogul is in front. Lynn Merritt, the Senior VP of Nike. And Rich Paul (more on him to come) his friend from Ohio who Rose was grooming as an agent.
Problems started in 2013 for Wes/UK. Cal didn't leave UK for the Cavs as Wes had been trying to orchestrate in 2010. But they stayed close after that. Wes had officially begun working for CAA (against Cal's wishes) and that made it difficult for him to come around the program as often. Cal using CAA as his agency helped, but still made it more difficult. Btw, Cal and Drake's friendship was all because of Wes as well.
In the 2013 NCAA tourney, the NCAA had security escort Wes from the arena. There are pictures of it online. Most think Rick Pitino was the reason for it as he had been crying foul for years.
This began to shine a spotlight on Wes and Cal like never before and they eventually started backing away from each other.
Cal and Lebron were also very close (Wes is the reason Lebron was the "Y" at a UK game). When Lebron left Wes and Leon Rose to go with Klutch sports and his good friend Rich Paul it made things even more difficult.
Klutch and Rich Paul also represent Eric Bledsoe and MKG. They were two of his earliest signees. Cal wouldn't play ball with Nike and that caused an even bigger issue at the time.
Some people believe Cal saw the writing on the wall and backed away from Wes before the NCAA came calling. Some believe they are still very close and just do business in secret. Some believe James caused a rift between them. Some believe Wes doesn't have the same influence on recruits as he used to.
Whatever the case, he isn't seen or heard from nearly as much around UK (there have been spotted sightings). Wes is still VERY tied into the NBA.
Which is why when AD bought a house in LA and then signed with Klutch/Paul/Lebron over CAA/Rose/Wes many people on the inside believe the writing is on the wall for AD to join Lebron in LaLa land. It was a severe power struggle that Cal was in the very middle of as he has massive influence on AD and had friends on both sides.
How much has it all affected UK's recruiting? No one will know. But I could flat name you several recruits Wes has delivered to other Nike schools not named UK.
If you search hard enough, you can document most of what I posted here. Most of my info on this comes from two people I have known for a very long time. An AAU coach who has ties across the basketball landscape (and knows Wes well). And a D-1 basketball coach I have known since High School. They told me Melo was going to NY (Wes was the broker in that trade) before even Woj knew. And they told me Lebron was going to LA almost two years ago.
Maybe the AD thing never happens. Maybe the league squashes it (they won't) like they did with Wes's friend Chris Paul when he orchestrated the trade to the Lakers. Maybe feelings get hurt and things change. But for now, all signs point to it.
There is more. Lots of it. But my fingers are tired. Ha.
Leon Rose is white?
Wes is obviously not fn with Joel. Thanks Cal.
Folks, we are talking about the Knicks...their front office to coaching is abysmal. They are in tank mode and need one of Zion or Barrett.
Knox will be fine and is still better than most of the players on the team.
Knox's stat line re: rebounding and assists is freaking awful. With the same about of minutes, I feel like any of us could get two boards a game in the NBA just off of the occasional long rebound that goes right to you.
Chad’s signature move is to blast Cal/player/team first...
...then circle back around later in the week when his original take is long gone and say some high & mighty **** like “you dipshits are going to miss him” or “you idiots need to have some patience maybe sports isn’t for you”.
[eyeroll] FOH *****.
-The Diallo Clip is an all timer, but they love him there. He started last night.
...then circle back around later in the week when his original take is long gone and say some high & mighty **** like “you dipshits are going to miss him” or “you idiots need to have some patience maybe sports isn’t for you”.
[eyeroll] FOH *****.
-The Diallo Clip is an all timer, but they love him there. He started last night.
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Wasn’t part of why Knox wanted to go last year was to avoid this draft class?
My true signature move is Jake the Snake’s DDT, which I’m going to lay on you next time we’re out bruh.
No, I think it was actually the guaranteed millions.
Meh, the timing is what's frustrating the actual recruitment isn't. Now Bagley, Zion, Bamba, Young? Specifically Bagley and Zion should be the concerns. Those are the ones that tell me something is off.
The only thing "off" is that K is getting amazing One and Dones, and we're not. So basically K is cheating, and Cal isn't cheating anymore, or has been neutered.
I’ll miss Cal about as much as I missed the other 4 coaches who won titles here in their first 10 years. Win a second and I’ll miss him more.
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