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BBdK

Heisman
Sep 21, 2003
159,783
74,127
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I can't imagine how furious Allen's parents (and previous parents who had the same situation) must be, knowing 100% that the coach hates your son.

Watching Boston/Clarke play like selfish Donkeys shooting 5-50 and turning the ball over every other play while your son goes 1-2 (again), and Cal has a pissy fit when he misses a single shot, and then apparently passively throws him under the bus in the postgame (per Jones) for "not doing the right thing" on the final play while Clarke jacks an inexplicable early 30 footer.

F him man.
 

pretzel__logic

All-American
Jul 20, 2020
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I was so pissed last night and this morning my UC fan boyfriend didn't even make fun of me. He gave me the same sad face he makes after Bengals games when he pretends for 20 minutes he's not watching again the next week. Man. Feels even worse than him giving me crap.

But I had the best annual review I've ever had yesterday, so screw it. 2020 was actually a great year for me in my job and my firm came out of this **** year smelling like a rose. F you 2020 and rona, you don't win everything.
 

UKwizard

Heisman
Dec 11, 2002
21,313
13,878
113
Of all the **** that happened last night the part that I was most furious was when Askew came in after Mintz tossed the ball to Kansas for a 5 point lead and immediately picks up his dribble just over half court. Kid is not ready for primetime PG duty and is being thrown to the wolves.
 
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UK_Dallas

Heisman
Sep 17, 2015
14,726
37,005
76
Was way out in front of the Boston hate. Saw him play once in HS on ESPN and thought he wasn’t much. Still think that. Believe I made that known on here.
 
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Voinovich.

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Aug 29, 2005
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Allen should enter the transfer portal immediately (and Jones was on the clipboard throwing bs last night at 1:30 in the morning.)

He should go to UofL or UC or Xavier or wherever.

The player doesn't deserve that sort of treatment from his head coach.
 

gobigbluebell

Heisman
Sep 1, 2020
5,035
17,011
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Just seeing a kid with a haircut like Askew or Boston out there ahead of your nice looking kid would be infuriating enough.

MJ re: Football

- multiple transfers coming in at positions of need
- multiple coaching changes coming

😃

Said it like the coaching changes are in motion now, and we will hear soon enough.

That's gotta mean Eddie, right? Just basing that off the fact his offense sucks, whether that's his fault or stoops idk, and also the fact that Eddie has never coached long anywhere (other than RB coach at AUB).

Hope we bring in some smirky looking young guy who grew up playing Madden.
 
Dec 18, 2004
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I sincerely want the basketballs in here to explain the Cal is stuck in the 90's caveman argument because *checks jon scott*

Cal beat UK 92-82 in November, 1995 while AT UMASS...

Yeah: I'd sure hate to have that rascal back.

I'd take an Edgar Padilla or Carmelo Travieso on this team. In a heartbeat.

Kids like that aren't "good enough" for modern Cal though.
 

_Chase_

Heisman
Jan 22, 2004
33,895
33,391
113
Just seeing a kid with a haircut like Askew or Boston out there ahead of your nice looking kid would be infuriating enough.

I’m full ***** bus on the basketball complaints, but this is ridiculous, assuming you weren’t being sarcastic.
 

gobigbluebell

Heisman
Sep 1, 2020
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17,011
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I’m full ***** bus on the basketball complaints, but this is ridiculous, assuming you weren’t being sarcastic.

 

80 Proof

Heisman
Jan 3, 2003
64,813
52,347
113
Fooseball shorts

I think Hinshaw is definitely gone. Eddie might have to take a step back to stay because we need a new OC to get things back on track (I think Eddie is out).

I've heard rumor that a certain Nebraska WR might be a transfer here. Not sure how I feel about that. The GaTech kid is pretty obvious too.

I think we have a handful of guys leave that we think should stay too. Either transfer or early draft.

Hopefully they put one person in charge of special teams rather than the half-assed by committee approach.

Win this weekend, pickup a bowl win... 5-6 isn't horrible but we sure missed a good opportunity this year.

Complete rebuild of offensive line from coach to personnel has me concerned going into next season.

No matter what happens, we need to get Gavin Wimsatt to UK.
 

anthonys735

Heisman
Jan 29, 2004
62,831
51,918
113
-Stoops seems to be all business with coaches but seems like axing Gran would be aggressive. That's his dude. Not against it at all but after last year, with covid issues this and an all SEC schedule, seems like a stretch. QB coach, for sure. Seems like he's ready to correct the issues.

-I just have more patience on the FB side. Annoyed, sure, gloom and doom, nah. This is a f*cked up year. We've been missing our best offensive player the last 2 games. Fix the WRs and bring the 2 young guys along and we'll get better. We're still deep at almost every position. We just need to get the playmakers out there. If we had the original schedule we're 7 wins and headed to a decent bowl. Plus they broke UT so I'm not too upset.

-Lol, with Allen PT. Why do you all do this to yourselves?
 
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This is gonna sound weird because he routinely brings in top 3 classes but I think Cal is lazy as **** when it comes to recruiting. I think he just goes after whoever is ranked in the top 20 regardless of fit and hopes he can scream at them enough to make it work. We haven’t had a cohesive team since 2016’s class.
 

MaxPowerrr

Heisman
Feb 9, 2006
38,504
41,065
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This is gonna sound weird because he routinely brings in top 3 classes but I think Cal is lazy as **** when it comes to recruiting. I think he just goes after whoever is ranked in the top 20 regardless of fit and hopes he can scream at them enough to make it work. We haven’t had a cohesive team since 2016’s class.
He recruits on auto draft, basically.
 
May 6, 2002
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This is gonna sound weird because he routinely brings in top 3 classes but I think Cal is lazy as **** when it comes to recruiting. I think he just goes after whoever is ranked in the top 20 regardless of fit and hopes he can scream at them enough to make it work. We haven’t had a cohesive team since 2016’s class.
He also passes on some great players if he thinks they or someone in their family is a pain in the *** or might take a little work. That drives me nuts.

His job is to bring in as much talent as possible and figure out how to make it work. And if the argument is that he's building a team of great fits and good chemistry then explain to me WTF I watched last night.
 

TheShowKiller

Heisman
Dec 30, 2002
13,649
13,442
113
At the risk of sounding like White Killer, it's always seemed like Stoops' teams have walked the line between being allowed the freedom to vent and straight up undermining the program via social media, etc.

May actually be the right thing to do to get this weekend over with and shut it down, let everyone chill and get healthy and re-recruit the guys you need to stay.
 

Kennedy_UK

Heisman
Nov 24, 2007
74,008
19,090
96
Here's a list of players who left the program in the last 5 years without graduating or getting drafted:
  1. Ashton Hagans
  2. Kahlil Whitney
  3. Johnny Juzang
  4. EJ Montgomery
  5. Quade Green
  6. Jamarl Baker
  7. Wenyen Gabriel
  8. Sacha Killeya-Jones
  9. Tai Wynard
  10. Isaiah Briscoe
  11. Isaac Humphries
  12. Marcus Lee
  13. Charles Matthews



  14. Brad Calipari (can't believe this watermelon-head motherf****er held a scholarship position)
I'm not going to pretend we weren't better off losing about 5 of those players (*ahem* Quade Green), but damnit if this program wouldn't be in infinitely better shape if abbout 5-6 of those dudes stuck around another year or two.

Last year's departures were probably the most egregious example. Definitely was not a huge fan of BAH, but he'd be a 10x over any PG we have this season. There's absolutely no f*cking reason Juzang and Baker shouldn't be a ridiculous 1-2 punch at the 2 spot. Give me EJ Montgomery over Keion Brooks all/air.

Basically, f*ck Cal and his ******** roster management. His stress eating is 100% of his own making.
 
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SAECATFAN

Heisman
Nov 7, 2001
66,348
52,298
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Someone made the analogy to Tubby's last few years but IMO Cal's a little more like Denny Crum in the 90's. Once revolutionary with offense and a bona fide King, the game changed (3 point line) and he never adapted. The last 7 years or so of his time at UofL he had some randomly assembled teams with enough studs to get him to the 2nd weekend in March but that was always the ceiling.

Not a college basketball but a UofL fan so tifwiw.

 
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BleedBlueCats21

All-American
Mar 17, 2007
10,260
7,041
113
Jamarrrrl was a big reason we beat Wofford. Gave us some really nice minutes once he was healthy. Too bad he fouled an Auburn 3 point shooter and our coach deemed him unfit to play the sport.

😢
^Speaking of Baker, how about our boy going behind his back on the fast break Saturday like it was nothing? If he had finished the layup I would have lost my damn mind. The sauce.
 
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Nov 14, 2002
40,458
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Calipari may be the very last person to realize that the one and done era is over. It worked for a few years because NOBODY else was doing it. For Pete’s sake, Howard has a one and done player this year. And they’ll get nothing out of it.

He used to hand pick 5 guys a year. Now, he’s still getting top 1/2 classes, but only after competing with 300 other schools for those same players.

The opportunity isn’t in one and dones anymore. It’s in grad transfers, 2/3/4 year starters, Euros, guys who are 26 because they spent 4 years in prison, etc.
 

Strokin_Bandit

Heisman
Dec 21, 2001
8,949
14,118
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Here's a list of players who left the program in the last 5 years without graduating or getting drafted:
  1. Ashton Hagans
  2. Kahlil Whitney
  3. Johnny Juzang
  4. EJ Montgomery
  5. Quade Green
  6. Jamarl Baker
  7. Wenyen Gabriel
  8. Sacha Killeya-Jones
  9. Tai Wynard
  10. Isaiah Briscoe
  11. Isaac Humphries
  12. Marcus Lee
  13. Charles Matthews



  14. Brad Calipari (can't believe this watermelon-head motherf****er held a scholarship position)
I'm not going to pretend we weren't better off losing about 5 of those players (*ahem* Quade Green), but damnit if this program wouldn't be in infinitely better shape if abbout 5-6 of those dudes stuck around another year or two.

Last year's departures was probably the most egregious example. Definitely was not a huge fan of BAH, but he'd be a 10x over any PG we have this season. There's absolutely no f*cking reason Juzang and Baker shouldn't be a ridiculous 1-2 punch at the 2 spot. Give me EJ Montgomery over Keion Brooks all/air.

Basically, f*ck Cal and his ******** roster management. His stress eating is 100% of his own making.

Add in the guys who do get drafted or leave to go play overseas and that’s like what, 25-27 players that have come and gone in the last 5 years? Possibly more, but I’m not going back to get an exact number.

And what do we really have to show for it - a mural in the locker room of some of those guys in their NBA jersey? How can you develop a consistent program or system with that kind of turnover? Losing 2-3 guys to the draft per year, then losing 2-3 more to transfer or sign somewhere as an undrafted FA.

AND you expect #BBN to just sit back and not criticize this ****? We’re too proud to watch our beloved program be treated like a perennial revolving door AAU club. We’re better than that.

We may be a little tacky, but UK basketball is still “old money.” It’s not being handled that way, though and that is what is so frustrating. Either change or leave. I don’t give a **** which of those is eventually chosen, but do something dammit.
 

wcc31

Heisman
Mar 18, 2002
26,957
88,494
98
- The lack of cohesion is due to:

a) Guys not returning
b) Cal’s penchant for playing guys out of position (Lyles, Knox, Brooks)
c) Outdated offense

Cal’s recruiting and talent evaluation are outstanding. Everyone has misses but I’d put his percentage against anyone.

- I understand the hatred of Hagans and Montgomery but both would have been really nice to have back. I think Montgomery would have improved especially. I didn’t hate his game by the end of the year. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t overrated.

- We’ll see on the Crum thing. Again, Cal’s March results, especially considering the gray area of what occurred in the losses, haven’t been bad at all for a “down” stretch. Even Consistent Dean Smith went nine years between Final 4s. His peers- K, Roy, Self, Wright- have much more embarrassing recent March fails. Cal’s are highlighted because:

a) His torrid start
b) We’re UK
c) He didn’t cash in on a couple grand championship opportunities
 
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