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I mean recruiting is cut off, can't practice, what else is Cal doing besides checking in with his guys, taking their temperature, and telling them sweet lies about starting next year? Once in awhile I wish we actually had the scuzzy, underhanded used car salesman everyone seems to think this guy is instead of Mr. Rogers.
 

PuffyNips

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Juzang transfer official per his AAU coach. Great work, Cal. Can't wait till we're pulling kids off the ultimate frisbee team next year so we have ten to practice with.

Bristol, what exactly should Cal have done? The kid got plenty of clock.

Should Kentucky have not recruited other good players at his position this year? I'm sorry Clark and Boston, I know you are top 5 players, but we don't want to hurt Johnny Juzang's feelings.

His Dad never wanted him to come here. He'll go to Gonzaga and come off the bench for them.

I liked him. I wished he would've stayed, I think he will be a stud as a Jr and Sr. But touch him. This is on him, not Cal, IMO.
 

KingLlama

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Here's to Askew hopefully breaking the streak of West Coast kids not sticking at Kentucky. The scene out there is just its own weird thing, going back decades (just finished reading "Raw Recruits" for the second time, which goes into detail on SoCal hoops). It's amazing that any kids from there last longer than a year or two at a school east of the Pac-12. It's just hard for them to break free.

NYC used to be the same way, but that city's HS hoop scene has taken a massive hit, so it's not quite the same. So many of those kids bolt for prep schools in New England or Florida, so they've already adjusted a bit.
 
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If we have a full roster of 12 capable scholarship players next year, I'll totally agree with you. There's absolutely no reason for Cal to go into another year with less than 12.

Quickley?, Montgomery?, Brooks, Boston, Clarke, Fletcher, Ware, Jackson, Askew, Allen...

If we lose Quickley or Montgomery we're currently at 9 with no injuries.

I understand the argument that the kid made his choice, but part of Cal's job is to be able to fill out a roster. Convincing a kid like Juzang to be the 7th or 8th man is part of his job.
 

PuffyNips

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* Old school fish sticks, mac&cheese and broccoli on the menu for tonight.

* Currently listening to the new Pearl Jam album. Pretty damn good.

* My wife is doing a great job homeschooling the kids. I have been able to help out here and there, but the last 2 days I was slammed with work.

Plus I was busy photoshopping my face on Coronavirus memes.

* Onward on the big screen tonight. I'm usually aware of new cartoons but I have no earthly idea what this one is about. The girls are excited, so I'll at least pretend to watch.

I'll have a glass or 3 of Krazy Kat's finest to help me get thru it.
 

PuffyNips

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Oh, I'm always pissed about Cal not using more of his available slots. That is a whole different issue.

The players transferring when they don't get instant superstardom sucks, but it is a nationwide problem. It isn't a Coach Cal problem.

That's all I'm trying to say.

I don't like it a bit. But I don't want Cal to stop recruiting good players because other ones might get their feelings hurt.

"He got recruited over" is probably the stupidest thing I've ever read. Every single coach should be trying to "recruit over" every player they have.
 
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I agree with that. Transferring overall is worse, and if the problem was that he was buried on the roster I'd be more content with it.

It bothers me when these things happen and we hear that Cal backed off of guys like Green and Christopher and hasn't as far as anyone can tell, contacted Marfo.

And I think when I hear "What should Cal have done?" My answer is that recruiting doesn't stop when the kid gets on campus. Part of recruiting is keeping your current guys happy and humble and making sure they know where the stand and if they're listening to the noise that you reassure them of where they stand.

"This isn't for everybody." is a great line when you lose a kid, but it's bothersome when our roster isn't getting fleshed out every year. Bringing in a kid off the baseball team as your ninth guy is a lot more troublesome to me than it seems to be for some who think it's cute or makes for a good story.
 

Hank Camacho

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In a way, I hope the NBA drops the one year rule so Calipari can drop the ******** and actually recruit and coach guys rather than this dog and pony show of letting decent guys come try to show off for the NBA for a year and then leave when their dreams aren't real.
 

TheShowKiller

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Didn’t JJ have some real mature quotes early in the year when he wasn’t getting clock about waiting his time and everyone has a different path? Disappointing, I was never convinced Baker would be a meaningful player but JJ is going to go somewhere good and be a legit contributor for 3 years.

Not COVID but the stomach bug hit me yesterday, man that thing hits hard and fast...about 24 hours worth of hell then it’s out.
 
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PuffyNips

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Askew
Clarke
Boston
Jackson
Ware
Fletcher
Allen
Brooks
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Montgomery
IQ
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Hagans
Maxey
Richards


I guess we have a 13-man roster as of this minute.
 

Kooky Kats_anon

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Juzang had a sneaky good game.

could handle and rebound.
Dead eye shooter
Not afraid
But his ability to feed the post was unique.

Him and Nick devastated Florida in the second half.

he will be missed
 
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UKStoleMyFish

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Can't say it's Cal's "fault" without knowing more, but when you market your program as the best/fastest way to NBA riches, and a kid doesn't see himself on that track after a year, then this will happen. Especially when the kid is 2,000 miles from home and his family wants him back.
 
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anthonys735

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I agree with that. Transferring overall is worse, and if the problem was that he was buried on the roster I'd be more content with it.

It bothers me when these things happen and we hear that Cal backed off of guys like Green and Christopher and hasn't as far as anyone can tell, contacted Marfo.

And I think when I hear "What should Cal have done?" My answer is that recruiting doesn't stop when the kid gets on campus. Part of recruiting is keeping your current guys happy and humble and making sure they know where the stand and if they're listening to the noise that you reassure them of where they stand.

"This isn't for everybody." is a great line when you lose a kid, but it's bothersome when our roster isn't getting fleshed out every year. Bringing in a kid off the baseball team as your ninth guy is a lot more troublesome to me than it seems to be for some who think it's cute or makes for a good story.

He backed off Green because his dad is psycho. He wasn't going to wait around on Christopher because he could land Boston and Clarke. Juzang was a late add because we missed on Edwards/Hampton.

Some of you all have a really weird way of processing information.
 
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Yes, one of my pet peeves is that the 10 million dollar man can't be bothered to deal with a psycho dad. High school coaches making a 1400 dollar annual stipend deal with psycho dads.

Telling me that Juzang was plan C after we lost a player to Tom Crean doesn't make me feel better about it.
 

anthonys735

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* Onward on the big screen tonight. I'm usually aware of new cartoons but I have no earthly idea what this one is about. The girls are excited, so I'll at least pretend to watch.
It's really good but it's going to pull on Dad's heart strings. Very creative though.
 

anthonys735

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Yes, one of my pet peeves is that the 10 million dollar man can't be bothered to deal with a psycho dad. High school coaches making a 1400 dollar annual stipend deal with psycho dads.

Telling me that Juzang was plan C after we lost a player to Tom Crean doesn't make me feel better about it.
k.


*That's a lower case k, btw.
 

Hank Camacho

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Some of you all have a really weird way of processing information.

Individually Juzang transferring makes total sense. And he's still just the latest example of good players that Calipari can't keep and develop.

Not sure how you're processing things but that is true.
 

anthonys735

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It pisses me off because good 2-4 year players are making the biggest impact in college basketball right now, not freshman. We got him for the former, and lost him for the latter. That sucks.
It does suck, but this was obviously happening the entire time. He was a late add because we missed on two guys ahead. I just don't get all the outrage at "the 10 million dollar man"(it's actually 8 million but we know facts are optional with Bristol's ilk) considering Coaches aren't allowed to talk to players about basketball right now. He also finally lands 2 top 5 guys, the other criticisms, but they're not able to deal with a player leaving. Nor can they even acknowledge this is the first year transfers will like not have to sit out and we already have over 400 in the portal. Just like O&D was originally just a UK thing, now it's wide spread. Kids aren't going to sit and wait anymore.

If you're just going to throw out ridiculously inaccurate statements I'm going to call you out on it. (aimed at Bristol)
 
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I haven't looked at every roster, but I'm not sure we've had 12 scholarship players at any time under Cal.

If this is the year for that, then I'd also bet we will see a ton more 3's and probably throw in quite a bit of zone. Maybe press 94 feet.
 
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anthonys735

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I haven't looked at every roster, but I'm not sure we've had 12 scholarship players at any time under Cal.

If this is the year for that, then I'd also bet we will see a ton more 3's and probably throw in quite a bit of zone. Maybe press 94 feet.
See this is a fair criticism, allowing us to get down to 8 players 2 of the last 3 years is BS.
 
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I haven't looked at every roster, but I'm not sure we've had 12 scholarship players at any time under Cal.

If this is the year for that, then I'd also bet we will see a ton more 3's and probably throw in quite a bit of zone. Maybe press 94 feet.

Spoiler alert.

Next year. Barbee, Justus, Payne on bench
GOOOOOO!
Followed by dribbling out game clock up 5 with 13:00 left

Wash, Rinse, Repeat

CANT WAIT!
 
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