Gruden Gate with more fallout today.

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fishwater99

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https://www.totalprosports.com/2021...llowing-leak-of-emails-with-ex-wft-president/

ESPN’s top NFL reporter Adam Schefter had no other options but to respond after getting roped into the growing controversy around the Washington Football Team’s emails. An email exchange between Schefter and former Washington Football Team president Bruce Allen was published by the Los Angeles Times that exposed him committing a cardinal sin in journalism.
Schefter sent Allen an entire draft of a story to be published, referred to him as “Mr. Editor,” and welcomed him to propose any changes:

https://www.totalprosports.com/2021...iHxYa7D9z6s7f4YuMAA-20fXHCGDRTh0p4GuEp2FsEL4U

https://twitter.com/jennifersterger...efter-following-leaked-email-with-wft-tweets/

 

Maroon Eagle

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No surprise. Scheftler has long had the reputation of being cozy with execs at NFL teams.

And that's one method of doing that right there.
 

patdog

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Gonna be a LOT more fallout before this is over. NFLPA is demanding the NFL release all 650,000 emails from their investigation. NFL may wind up regretting the chose to leak only a very few that were convenient for them.
 

fishwater99

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Gonna be a LOT more fallout before this is over. NFLPA is demanding the NFL release all 650,000 emails from their investigation. NFL may wind up regretting the chose to leak only a very few that were convenient for them.

Agreed, there are a lot of people freaking out right now for sure. What did Gruden do to piss them off?
 

Maroon Eagle

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All we need is to find out that Tom Mars or Rose Bowl are involved and in that case heaven help the NFL because we know that hell ain't.
 

dorndawg

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https://www.totalprosports.com/2021...llowing-leak-of-emails-with-ex-wft-president/

ESPN’s top NFL reporter Adam Schefter had no other options but to respond after getting roped into the growing controversy around the Washington Football Team’s emails. An email exchange between Schefter and former Washington Football Team president Bruce Allen was published by the Los Angeles Times that exposed him committing a cardinal sin in journalism.
Schefter sent Allen an entire draft of a story to be published, referred to him as “Mr. Editor,” and welcomed him to propose any changes:

https://www.totalprosports.com/2021...iHxYa7D9z6s7f4YuMAA-20fXHCGDRTh0p4GuEp2FsEL4U

https://twitter.com/jennifersterger...efter-following-leaked-email-with-wft-tweets/


Adam Schefter isn't a journalist, he's an influence peddler. There's a difference.
 

dorndawg

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Likely, but one of the charges against Gruden was some anti-gay comments. He had one of the only openly gay NFL players on his team (Carl Nassib)

Both should certainly be included anytime anybody takes a measure of the man Gruden is.
 

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Easily my least favorite sports reporter. Guy is just completely oblivious to how much of a douchebag **** stain that he is.
 

ronpolk

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Yep… NFL opened a can of worms by leaking the Gruden emails. And they most definitely leaked them.
 

TrueMaroonGrind

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If you've ever had dealings with a legit reporter, you'd know it most definitely is not.

I’ll take your word for it. I just always assumed these guys with connections in all these different organizations were scratching some backs to get theirs scratched back in return.
 

xxxWalkTheDawg

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If you've ever had dealings with a legit reporter,

I’m legitimately having trouble of thinking of one of those. Nationally at least.

That died with Tim Russert in 2008. It’s now all about getting clicks on ads, selling ads, and peeling off an audience and feeding them what they want so you can get more clicks and sell more ads.

just like running a fan site. That’s what journalism is now a days… running a bunch of independent fan sites.
 

dorndawg

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Like Katy Couric.**


Couric and Russert are media personalities. When I say legit reporters, I mean a journalist with the AP, Reuters, major national newspapers, and the like. If you know, you know.

Regarding Couric, I agree what she did was slimy.
 
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Couric and Russert are media personalities. When I say legit reporters, I mean a journalist with the AP, Reuters, major national newspapers, and the like. If you know, you know.

Regarding Couric, I agree what she did was slimy.

Some of your national reporters are definitely not legit reporters. Just the facts ended so long ago it is nuts. Almost nothing is presented without slant except the obituaries.
 
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I’ve done probably close to a dozen actual newspaper/news media interviews and I stopped doing them because they butchered what I said into whatever message they wanted. It’s all about whatever slant the reporter wants.

I’ve done the “fluff” pieces too where they actually send it to you before print to make sure they got it right.
 
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dorndawg

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I’ve done probably close to a dozen actual newspaper/news media interviews and I stopped doing them because they butchered what I said into whatever message they wanted. It’s all about whatever slant the reporter wants.

I’ve done the “fluff” pieces too where they actually send it to you before print to make sure they got it right.


If you say so, I believe you. Certainly was not my experience when I did an interviews with a national newspaper and NPR.
 

aTotal360

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Follow the money. ESPN isn't going to bite the hand that feeds them. Yeah they will report some negativity to give off some semblance of fairness, but that's about it.

It's no different in political reporting.
 

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Ha when the news broken about Gruden and ESPN had Booger, Shiffty and Suzi sitting around the table being self righteous, I said, "guarantee you Adam Schefter is a POS who does the same ****."
 

dorndawg

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Ha when the news broken about Gruden and ESPN had Booger, Shiffty and Suzi sitting around the table being self righteous, I said, "guarantee you Adam Schefter is a POS who does the same ****."


What did Gruden and Schefter do that are the same?
 
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Agreed, there are a lot of people freaking out right now for sure. What did Gruden do to piss them off?

This isn't all about Gruden, Bruce Allen, racism, homophobia, or misogyny exactly. This is about power and who has it in the NFL itself. Sure, there are a bunch of folks who honesty want to help stop that kind of thinking and talking but that's really not why they are pushing. They want more leverage over the owners in the NFL.

Schafer is just a plain old witch hunt
 
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The one thing to realize...
John Gruden wasn't sending those emails to strangers. The people who were receiving those emails were comfortable with the language he was using and friendly with him. There is obviously a culture of racism in the high levels of the NFL, but I could of told you that after they let Rush Limbaugh commentate. Having said that, what else would expect from a bunch of old white billionaires...not demographic known for their progressive view points.

This Schefter thing is just a reflection of how "journalism" works these days. Sure CNN, Fox News, ESPN release a story, but you're damn sure the "stories" are "edited" so as not to harm any corporate or controlling interests. You get a story, but they are all biased because anything that is critical of the controlling interests either isn't published or is published in a favorable light. They try to create to illusion of balanced journalism, but in a very narrow and contrived scope.
 
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And I’m not saying all of them are that way. They’re some great people who do good work but I just ran into enough that it turned me off from doing any kind of media.
 

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Saban coached in nfl. Y’all get to sifting through emails. Quick.
 

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No idea if he's conservative, but he sent some emails that had racist implications as well as comments about women.
 

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Topless cheerleader pics being emailed between Gruden and Allen is today's discovery.

This could go on for a while. Can't imagine who thought it would be a good idea to leak these emails.
 

ronpolk

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Topless cheerleader pics being emailed between Gruden and Allen is today's discovery.

This could go on for a while. Can't imagine who thought it would be a good idea to leak these emails.

I demand they release the emails now, non-redacted of course**
 
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