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thatsbaseball

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Stupid people who are in the process of violently resisting arrest and act like they are reaching in their vehicle for a weapon (while the police are screaming don't do it) "deserve" whatever it takes to keep them from injuring the policeman just doing his job. They do not "deserve" being made into some sort of heroic martyr like so many of you are trying to do with this thug. What part of this do you not understand ?
 

SheltonChoked

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You may have gotten a lot of down votes, but I know a lot of people who have decided the same. To my knowledge, all of them supported the removal of the flag.... but the support and march over a rapist was a line.


So you think "Supporting a rapist is over the line"?

Huh...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/09/justice-department-defend-trump/5755850002/
[FONT=&quot]The Justice Department is asking to take over President Donald Trump’s defense in a defamation lawsuit from a writer who accused him of rape[/FONT]
 

SheltonChoked

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Stupid people who are in the process of violently resisting arrest and act like they are reaching in their vehicle for a weapon (while the police are screaming don't do it) "deserve" whatever it takes to keep them from injuring the policeman just doing his job. They do not "deserve" being made into some sort of heroic martyr like so many of you are trying to do with this thug. What part of this do you not understand ?

Cite for the law showing where the punishment for resisting arrest and disobeying a police officer is death.

Actual statutory law, please.

The argument is not that Jacob Blake was a "good guy" or even "didn't deserve being arrested", it's that the punishment was out of line for the crime.

If he'd just been taken in. He'd stopped when he got to the car. Would we have arrested him, provided him an attorney, have the case put before a grand Jury, then a trial jury, and if found guilty, had a policeman come in to shoot him in the courtroom? Or was the punishment for all his crimes 12-15 years in jail?
 

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Ok, but just as you say that the argument isn’t that Blake was a good guy or that he didn’t deserve to be arrested, I don’t think many on the other side of the fence are claiming that he deserved to die. They’re just saying that as soon as he refused to comply, he put his life on the roulette wheel. An analogy would be a friend that gets hooked on pills/needles, and no matter how many interventions or trips to rehab they have, they just keep going back. Do they deserve to die? Of course not, but at some point, you know what the outcome is going to be

Legit question here, but you mention “if he’d just been taken in”. After wrestling with him, tasing him twice, and shouting at him to stop, I’m curious as to why you think that wasn’t the officers’ plan. Or maybe the better question is, what more should they have done?
 

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It's his job to promote falsehoods? To allow that to be promoted in our sports? You see it everywhere. Even Bama alumni are saying they are done due to this "movement".

Like it or not, people do not want politics in sports. The really don't want it when they are marching for a person like Blake.

They are not marching for Blake, per se. They are marching to raise awareness of racial injustice and police brutality. You may not believe those issues exist, but they believe it, and are attempting to get people to think about it. I think....maybe they are just marching because it seemed like a cool thing to do.

Blake was the catalyst of the latest protests, but his shooting is just a symbol. He seems to be a poor choice for a symbol, but like Dave Chappelle said about George Floyd (also a questionable choice for martyrdom) "We didn't choose him, YOU did."

I really don't see why this has gotten under people's skin. Changing the practice schedule does not effect me in the least. I also don't really care about any college students' views about political or social issues (I am unclear on where one draws the lines between politics and social interaction). If the demonstration makes them feel heard, then that's great. Whether people care to listen is an entirely different matter.
 

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Does anyone know how much the Bulldog Club receives from the 15,400 members? I would really be interested in that number to see how it correlates with this 30 mil+ JC mentions in his letter. Also, the 15,400 total member number mentioned was taken from ranking info on the manage my dog tag as of 10am this morning.
 

thatsbaseball

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Your last paragraph is a great example of why the polls are shifting more everyday towards Trump/Republicans. Unhinged lunacy from the left.
 

Ibdancin

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100 percent sure they didn’t just protest for Jacob Blake, it was for every combined unjustified shooting that happened that shouldn’t have. Sounds like most of y’all have latched on to the idea that oh he’s a bad guy he deserves to die

100% sure that the MSU beat writers said it was.

No most of us have latched onto the simply facts and are open for factual based conversation. Example.... Floyd was a bad guy. He did a home invasion and held a gun to a pregnant lady's stomach. But as you can see (looking at my post right above yours) we all pretty much was on the same page with that.

The difference here is when the cops are called to a situation where they know the person is violent and has a weapon. It's not the job of the police to not protect themselves. When you fight the cops, then get tazed and then tazed again and you go for something in your car.... it is now their job to protect themselves.
 

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Based on this statement, it appears to be ~$30-million

https://247sports.com/college/missi...i-State-athletic-department-budget-139822486/

"I start every budget process by looking at the revenue. Our IHL approved budget this year is 73.4 million dollars. When you add the Bulldog Club revenue into that, it is 105.6 million dollars. They have a separate budget from our budget. The majority of our gross revenue comes from football. The funds received from the SEC and the NCAA drive something like two-thirds of our total revenue of 73 million dollars. Sometimes those funds are designated for football - the majority of them are - but there are also some of those funds that are designated for basketball, and also for being a conference member, such as the SEC Network (contract) and other things. But when you really look at that amount, the majority of it is from football. You also have football ticket sales and premium ticket sales that generate revenue. Football ticket sales is about 13% of our budget. I am not including the annual fund giving amount associated with the tickets. That is Bulldog Club money. As for what we budget as our revenue, we aren't going to budget at the possible high end of revenue. We will start out on the conservative side. We start out with our biggest driver of revenue, which is the SEC and NCAA distributions. Next is ticket sales. You have to look at trends when it comes to ticket sales. Tickets are a variable number.


ETA more data: https://www.causeiq.com/organizations/mississippi-state-university-bulldog-club,510163622/
 
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fishwater99

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Mr. Cohen,

If our players come out and kneel, have NCAA approved messages on their jerseys, and we have continuous social justice videos on the Jumbotron, the letter you write next year will read 50 million loss in revenue.

Sincerely,

JacksonDevilDog


^^^This. John needs to know where the money comes from.
 

Ibdancin

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They are not marching for Blake, per se. They are marching to raise awareness of racial injustice and police brutality. You may not believe those issues exist, but they believe it, and are attempting to get people to think about it. I think....maybe they are just marching because it seemed like a cool thing to do.

Blake was the catalyst of the latest protests, but his shooting is just a symbol. He seems to be a poor choice for a symbol, but like Dave Chappelle said about George Floyd (also a questionable choice for martyrdom) "We didn't choose him, YOU did."

I really don't see why this has gotten under people's skin. Changing the practice schedule does not effect me in the least. I also don't really care about any college students' views about political or social issues (I am unclear on where one draws the lines between politics and social interaction). If the demonstration makes them feel heard, then that's great. Whether people care to listen is an entirely different matter.


I believe its due to what people are seeing happening all across the USA. The preaching that unless you agree, then you are pushed out of your position, restaurant, must allow your home to be invaded and can not defend it....etc...

And yes. That is happening. As an example, riots started in DC. I watched for a total of about 15 minutes. I watched the aunt of an 18 year old shot by police plead her case marching with BLM in front of the police station. A guy come walking up, he was an elected official of that ward. He began to tell the people that the video would be released tomorrow per the mayor and the PD that he spoke with. He was simply trying to calm the people in his ward. Said nothing wrong. Did nothing wrong... and literally the leader of the DC BLM chapter physically assaulted the guy. This is happening at such a rate that the "movement" has gone from having support it dropping to below 30%.

It also goes back to what you just said, "you may not believe it, but they do". So we let them believe that cops are out there looking to kill black people? Really? Why can we have leaders at our university step up and lead on it.
 

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Ok, but just as you say that the argument isn’t that Blake was a good guy or that he didn’t deserve to be arrested, I don’t think many on the other side of the fence are claiming that he deserved to die. They’re just saying that as soon as he refused to comply, he put his life on the roulette wheel. An analogy would be a friend that gets hooked on pills/needles, and no matter how many interventions or trips to rehab they have, they just keep going back. Do they deserve to die? Of course not, but at some point, you know what the outcome is going to be

Legit question here, but you mention “if he’d just been taken in”. After wrestling with him, tasing him twice, and shouting at him to stop, I’m curious as to why you think that wasn’t the officers’ plan. Or maybe the better question is, what more should they have done?

They did all of that within 2 minutes of arriving at the scene. Literally 2 minutes from when the first policeman arrived and asked for a description of Blake, until they called for an ambulance. He had an arrest warrant out for him for 3 months, maybe take more than 2 minutes to calm him down?

Is your argument, the laws are wrong, and it is a capital crime to resist arrest?

Or, they know where he lives, get him there.
 

Drebin

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Ok, but just as you say that the argument isn’t that Blake was a good guy or that he didn’t deserve to be arrested, I don’t think many on the other side of the fence are claiming that he deserved to die. They’re just saying that as soon as he refused to comply, he put his life on the roulette wheel. An analogy would be a friend that gets hooked on pills/needles, and no matter how many interventions or trips to rehab they have, they just keep going back. Do they deserve to die? Of course not, but at some point, you know what the outcome is going to be

Legit question here, but you mention “if he’d just been taken in”. After wrestling with him, tasing him twice, and shouting at him to stop, I’m curious as to why you think that wasn’t the officers’ plan. Or maybe the better question is, what more should they have done?

You have to understand that there's no such thing as personal accountability anymore. It didn't matter what the guy did. It didn't matter that the guy resisted arrest. It didn't matter that he had a weapon. It didn't matter that he had physically assaulted an officer. It didn't matter that he was defying a court order just by being there. It didn't matter that he forfeited multiple opportunities to comply with a lawful order. And it certainly didn't matter whether the cop felt threatened or not.

He did nothing wrong. It's all the cop's fault for shooting him. This is 2020, and this is the warped logic we are dealing with.

And this is why voters are flocking to the right in droves.
 

Ibdancin

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They did all of that within 2 minutes of arriving at the scene. Literally 2 minutes from when the first policeman arrived and asked for a description of Blake, until they called for an ambulance. He had an arrest warrant out for him for 3 months, maybe take more than 2 minutes to calm him down?

Is your argument, the laws are wrong, and it is a capital crime to resist arrest?

Or, they know where he lives, get him there.


So many fallacies in this.

1- do you know that is only took 2 minutes?
2- How long was he there terrorizing his victim before the cops got there.
3- She was and is the victim, the police was there to protect her first.
4- Him calming down is not relevant to the police protecting his victim.
5- The police is not his punching bag until he decides to calm down.

You repeat this over and over. Blake being shot had nothing to do with his crimes. Him being shot had to do with assaulting the police, having a knife, being tasered 1 time and it having no effect, being tasered again and it having no effect, then reaching into his car. At that point, due to the circumstances and all known facts, it's the job of the cop to protect themselves and the innocent people around them. NOT to continue to be his target and allow him to make targets of those around him.
 
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SheltonChoked

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So many fallacies in this.

1- do you know that is only took 2 minutes?
2- How long was he there terrorizing his victim before the cops got there.
3- She was and is the victim, the police was there to protect her first.
4- Him calming down is not relevant to the police protecting his victim.
5- The police is not his punching bag until he decides to calm down.

You repeat this over and over. Blake being shot had nothing to do with his crimes. Him being shot had to do with assaulting the police, having a knife, being tasered 1 time and it having no effect, being tasered again and it having no effect, then reaching into his car. At that point, due to the circumstances and all known facts, it's the job of the cop to protect themselves and the innocent people around them. NOT to continue to be his target and allow him to make targets of those around him.

It was 2 minutes and 3 seconds between the first officer arriving and the police calling forn an ambulance. I know that Because the police dispatch audio was released and I read it . Link and text below.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...nutes-after-arrival-audio-reveals/5628076002/


[h=2]5:13:47 p.m.[/h][FONT=&quot]One of the officers assigned to the call asks dispatchers for a description of Blake. The dispatcher tells officers that the woman now says Blake is trying to leave. The dispatcher tries to get a description of Blake’s vehicle but she tells officers that the woman has become uncooperative, and the type of vehicle or what state it’s registered in are unknown.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The officer replies that he has arrived at the address. [/FONT]
[h=2]5:15:50 p.m.[/h][FONT=&quot]An officer reports "shots fired."[/FONT]

Arrived on scene but don't know what he looks like. They know he is leaving, and no longer "terrorizing his victims". Decide the best action is to tase 2x, wrestle to the ground and shoot him in 2 minutes 3 seconds.

2-5 don't matter. It's the police' job to deescalate the situation. He did not have a knife in his hand per video.

The police could have "protected themselves" by not escalating the situation.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/aug/28/fact-checking-kenosha-shootings-involving-jacob-bl/
 

SheltonChoked

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You have to understand that there's no such thing as personal accountability anymore. It didn't matter what the guy did. It didn't matter that the guy resisted arrest. It didn't matter that he had a weapon. It didn't matter that he had physically assaulted an officer. It didn't matter that he was defying a court order just by being there. It didn't matter that he forfeited multiple opportunities to comply with a lawful order. And it certainly didn't matter whether the cop felt threatened or not.

He did nothing wrong. It's all the cop's fault for shooting him. This is 2020, and this is the warped logic we are dealing with.

And this is why voters are flocking to the right in droves.

None of this is what I said. You guys want everyone to " follow the law" but seem to think this doesn't apply to the police as well.

I said the punishment for all of those crimes is not getting shot.

If I'm wrong, please link to the statutes. All I can find is a 10-12 year penalty for 3rd degree sexual assault.
 

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There are procedures in place for when police are allowed to use lethal force. You're being obtuse.

Anyone, regardless of skin color, would have likely gotten shot in that situation.
 

RocketDawg

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Cite for the law showing where the punishment for resisting arrest and disobeying a police officer is death.

Actual statutory law, please.

The argument is not that Jacob Blake was a "good guy" or even "didn't deserve being arrested", it's that the punishment was out of line for the crime.

If he'd just been taken in. He'd stopped when he got to the car. Would we have arrested him, provided him an attorney, have the case put before a grand Jury, then a trial jury, and if found guilty, had a policeman come in to shoot him in the courtroom? Or was the punishment for all his crimes 12-15 years in jail?

I believe Jacob Blake is still alive, unless something's happened since last I heard.

Did you know his father, also named Jacob Blake, is a follower of Farrakhan and quite anti-Semitic?

I don't know if he should have been shot (really need cameras on the police there), but to me 7 times seems excessive. I suppose the cop sort of panicked. But the best way Blacks can keep from even being in such a situation is to stop being criminals. The ones that do that tend to give ALL Blacks a bad name and it leads to profiling.
 

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They are not marching for Blake, per se. They are marching to raise awareness of racial injustice and police brutality. You may not believe those issues exist, but they believe it, and are attempting to get people to think about it. I think....maybe they are just marching because it seemed like a cool thing to do.

Blake was the catalyst of the latest protests, but his shooting is just a symbol. He seems to be a poor choice for a symbol, but like Dave Chappelle said about George Floyd (also a questionable choice for martyrdom) "We didn't choose him, YOU did."

I really don't see why this has gotten under people's skin. Changing the practice schedule does not effect me in the least. I also don't really care about any college students' views about political or social issues (I am unclear on where one draws the lines between politics and social interaction). If the demonstration makes them feel heard, then that's great. Whether people care to listen is an entirely different matter.

It's gotten under peoples' skin because, instead of peaceful protests, they're looting and burning cities, along with the businesses of innocent owners. Protest if you will, but cut out the violence.
 

Ibdancin

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It was 2 minutes and 3 seconds between the first officer arriving and the police calling forn an ambulance. I know that Because the police dispatch audio was released and I read it . Link and text below.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news...nutes-after-arrival-audio-reveals/5628076002/




Arrived on scene but don't know what he looks like. They know he is leaving, and no longer "terrorizing his victims". Decide the best action is to tase 2x, wrestle to the ground and shoot him in 2 minutes 3 seconds.

2-5 don't matter. It's the police' job to deescalate the situation. He did not have a knife in his hand per video.

The police could have "protected themselves" by not escalating the situation.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2020/aug/28/fact-checking-kenosha-shootings-involving-jacob-bl/

You are wrong. 2-5 does matter. It's not their job to be attacked and take it until a person calms down and comes to his senses. HE DID have a knife in his hand.

Here are the actual and undisputed facts:

  • The officers were dispatched to the location due to a complaint that Mr. Blake was attempting to steal the caller’s keys/vehicle.

  • Officers were aware of Mr. Blake’s open warrant for felony sexual assault (3[SUP]rd[/SUP] degree) before they arrived on scene.

  • Mr. Blake was not breaking up a fight between two females when officers arrived on scene.

  • The silver SUV seen in the widely circulated video was not Mr. Blake’s vehicle.

  • Mr. Blake was not unarmed. He was armed with a knife. The officers did not see the knife initially. The officers first saw him holding the knife while they were on the passenger side of the vehicle. The “main” video circulating on the internet shows Mr. Blake with the knife in his left hand when he rounds the front of the car. The officers issued repeated commands for Mr. Blake to drop the knife. He did not comply.

  • The officers initially tried to speak with Mr. Blake, but he was uncooperative.

  • The officers then began issuing verbal commands to Mr. Blake, but he was non-complaint.

  • The officers next went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake, so as to gain compliance and control.

  • Mr. Blake actively resisted the officers’ attempt to gain compliance.

  • The officers then disengaged and drew their tasers, issuing commands to Mr. Blake that he would be tased if he did not comply.

  • Based on his non-compliance, one officer tased Mr. Blake. The taser did not incapacitate Mr. Blake.

  • The officers once more went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake; again, trying to gain control of the escalating situation.

  • Mr. Blake forcefully fought with the officers, including putting one of the officers in a headlock.

  • A second taser (from a different officer than had deployed the initial taser) was then deployed on Mr. Blake. It did not appear to have any impact on him.

  • Based on the inability to gain compliance and control after using verbal, physical and less-lethal means, the officers drew their firearms.
Mr. Blake continued to ignore the officers’ commands, even with the threat of lethal force now present.



Per AP and the video and the eye witness who filmed it:

The man who said he made the cellphone video, 22-year-old Raysean White, said he saw Blake scuffling with three officers and heard them yell, “Drop the knife! Drop the knife!” before the gunfire erupted.

https://webcache.googleusercontent....ust-28-2020-PS.docx+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
 

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The average would be about $2,000 per member and includes seat donations for football, basketball, and baseball. When you add in other donations, the amount sounds fairly reasonable.
 

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You are wrong. 2-5 does matter. It's not their job to be attacked and take it until a person calms down and comes to his senses. HE DID have a knife in his hand.

Here are the actual and undisputed facts:

  • The officers were dispatched to the location due to a complaint that Mr. Blake was attempting to steal the caller’s keys/vehicle. Not True per the Dispatch audio

  • Officers were aware of Mr. Blake’s open warrant for felony sexual assault (3[SUP]rd[/SUP] degree) before they arrived on scene.

  • Mr. Blake was not breaking up a fight between two females when officers arrived on scene.

  • The silver SUV seen in the widely circulated video was not Mr. Blake’s vehicle.

  • Mr. Blake was not unarmed. He was armed with a knife. The officers did not see the knife initially. The officers first saw him holding the knife while they were on the passenger side of the vehicle. The “main” video circulating on the internet shows Mr. Blake with the knife in his left hand when he rounds the front of the car. The officers issued repeated commands for Mr. Blake to drop the knife. He did not comply.

  • The officers initially tried to speak with Mr. Blake, but he was uncooperative.

  • The officers then began issuing verbal commands to Mr. Blake, but he was non-complaint.

  • The officers next went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake, so as to gain compliance and contr This seems stupid and reckless with an man armed with a knife.

  • Mr. Blake actively resisted the officers’ attempt to gain compliance.

  • The officers then disengaged and drew their tasers, issuing commands to Mr. Blake that he would be tased if he did not comply.

  • Based on his non-compliance, one officer tased Mr. Blake. The taser did not incapacitate Mr. Blake.

  • The officers once more went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake; again, trying to gain control of the escalating situation.

  • Mr. Blake forcefully fought with the officers, including putting one of the officers in a headlock.

  • A second taser (from a different officer than had deployed the initial taser) was then deployed on Mr. Blake. It did not appear to have any impact on him.

  • Based on the inability to gain compliance and control after using verbal, physical and less-lethal means, the officers drew their firearms.
Mr. Blake continued to ignore the officers’ commands, even with the threat of lethal force now present.



Per AP and the video and the eye witness who filmed it:



https://webcache.googleusercontent....ust-28-2020-PS.docx+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

No comment on it being 2 minutes from arrival until he was shot? AND the information that Blake was leaving the scene, and no longer a direct threat?

Is resisting arrest a capital Crime in Wisconsin? Wisconsin law says it's not.
 

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The average would be about $2,000 per member and includes seat donations for football, basketball, and baseball. When you add in other donations, the amount sounds fairly reasonable.


Would be very interested to see what the median donation per member is.
 

SheltonChoked

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There are procedures in place for when police are allowed to use lethal force. You're being obtuse.

Anyone, regardless of skin color, would have likely gotten shot in that situation.

Procedures are not laws.

And regardless of skin color, it would be a bad shoot.

He was shot 2 minutes after the police arrived. For a crime that is legally equivalent in Wisconsin to Being mean to a pledge.
 

RocketDawg

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You'd think there would be some sort of annual report available to BDC members. I've never seen one though.
 

Drebin

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No comment on it being 2 minutes from arrival until he was shot? AND the information that Blake was leaving the scene, and no longer a direct threat?

Is resisting arrest a capital Crime in Wisconsin? Wisconsin law says it's not.

So, is this how it works? Criminal does criminal things, disobeys police while they have weapons drawn, goes to his car, and the police are supposed to let him drive away?

And let me say it aGAIN....lethal force is authorized procedurally in certain circumstances. You are overly simplifying the situation by saying resisting arrest isn't a capital crime.

And finally, Jacob Blake is still alive. I'd say the cops did what they had to do to stop the situation without killing him. And you weren't there, so all this "two minutes" ******** is exactly that.

There will be an investigation and there will likely be a trial. Instead of convicting officers based on your political leanings like a bunch of other idiots are doing, I'd suggest that you let the justice system run its course. If they decide the cop was in the wrong, the cop will go to jail.
 

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You still give money to your Church?

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Religion is the biggest hypocrite of all. Real Christians would never get involved in politics. One day the Government will get tired of the meddling and send the churches down the crap hole!
 

Drebin

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Procedures are not laws.

And regardless of skin color, it would be a bad shoot.

He was shot 2 minutes after the police arrived. For a crime that is legally equivalent in Wisconsin to Being mean to a pledge.

The law will determine if the procedures were appropriate. Cops aren't shooting criminals because they're taking the law into their own hands. They're trying to apprehend a suspect and remove a credible threat to themselves or people in the immediate area.

No, it's not a bad shoot if an investigation determines it was appropriate, no matter what you think about it.

It doesn't matter if he was shot two seconds after the police arrived. He wrestled cops, had a knife, was verbally threatening, had a warrant out for felony sexual assault, and repeatedly disobeyed lawful orders. I don't know if it was two minutes as you say but that has nothing to do with anything.
 

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Procedures are not laws.

And regardless of skin color, it would be a bad shoot.

He was shot 2 minutes after the police arrived. For a crime that is legally equivalent in Wisconsin to Being mean to a pledge.

Can you point to any jurisdiction in the US where that would be a bad shoot? Have you even bothered to look up what the standard is in any jurisdiction?

Or can you point to any jurisdiction where there is a rule or in place requiring that officers ignore any threat present unless and until some minimum time has passed since they arrived on the scene?
 

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Bulldog Club gets 1* for Accountability and Transparency from Charity Navigator and 4* for Financial. Looking at the Form 990, the executive director is paid $131,000, which is very reasonable. Revenues are about $26,000,000 contributions and $5,000,000 Royalties & Other. It has a $3,158,360 Loan Receivable (from who?). It receives $3,700,000 in "Donated Services" primarily for Other Athletic Support (what is this?). It does appear they do a good job of spending the money for Program Expenses and not for Administrative or Fundraising Expenses.

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Can you point to any jurisdiction in the US where that would be a bad shoot? Have you even bothered to look up what the standard is in any jurisdiction?

Or can you point to any jurisdiction where there is a rule or in place requiring that officers ignore any threat present unless and until some minimum time has passed since they arrived on the scene?
It seems that Wisconsin is one.
 
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