Gorriaran Trivia

[NCcowboy]

I will be surprised if most have heard of the unlimited winner- 1959 and 1961. I had not heard of him before looking it up.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Answer Key.

• Can you name the other nine two-pin winners? James LaRock (Ithaca 1950), Jack Ellena (UCLA 1953), Ted Ellis (OSU 1961), Rob Sintobin (Clarion 1994), Garrett Lowney (Minn 2001), Brent Jones (Vir 2010), Ed Ruth (PSU (2011), Colton Schultz (ASU 2022).
• Which school's wrestlers have won the most Gorriarans? Iowa State has 8 Gorriarans won by 7 wrestlers. Tom Peckham (1966), Dan Gable (1969, 1970), Chris Taylor (1973), Johnnie Jones (1977), Darryl Peterson (1985), Eric Voelker (1988), Matt Johnson (1991).
• How many of the five two-timers can you name? Dan Hodge (OU 1956, 1957), Ted Ellis (OSU 1959, 1961), Dan Gable (ISU 1969, 1970), Gary Albright (Neb 1982, 1986), David Taylor (PSU 2012, 2013).
• Can you name the wrestler with the most pins while winning the Gorriaran? Dan Gable (10).
• Can you name the wrestler with the least pins while winning the Gorriaran? Ted Ellis (OSU 2 in 1959, 4 in 1961).
• Name the 2 Oklahoma State wrestlers to win the Gorriaran. The aforementioned Ted Ellis, and Jerry Kelly (4, 1981).

 

[Btbw1968]

Jerry Kelly was a big miss for me. I was thinking champions and do not think he ever got to the top of podium.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Jerry Kelly was a big miss for me. I was thinking champions and do not think he ever got to the top of podium.

Correct. His best finish was third - the year he won the Gorriaran.

 

[oberebo]

Correct. His best finish was third - the year he won the Gorriaran.

Whatis the % of wrestlers who won the Gorriaran that won the championship?

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Whatis the % of wrestlers who won the Gorriaran that won the championship?

Great question

• 26% of Gorrirans also won individual championshps.
• More, 31%, came in third.
• But the ones who won average more pins.

 

[Old Number Nine]

Correct. His best finish was third - the year he won the Gorriaran.

I probably shouldn't argue with experts (especially at this hour) but he finished 2nd in 1980 when he had 3 falls. Along the way he defeated the #2 seed Byron McGlathery 12-0 and pinned the #3 seed Ricky Dellagatta from the #7 seed. Losing to #1 John Azevedo 17-9.

Kelly did have 4 falls for the Gorriaran in 1981 when he finished 3th from the #4 seed. He had a good chance to make the finals when #1 Derek Glenn (OU) was upset in the first round but he (Kelly) was upset by Dave Cooke (#8, NC) 6-5 in the semi's.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

I probably shouldn't argue with experts (especially at this hour) but he finished 2nd in 1980 when he had 3 falls. Along the way he defeated the #2 seed Byron McGlathery 12-0 and pinned the #3 seed Ricky Dellagatta from the #7 seed. Losing to #1 John Azevedo 17-9.

Kelly did have 4 falls for the Gorriaran in 1981 when he finished 3th from the #4 seed. He had a good chance to make the finals when #1 Derek Glenn (OU) was upset in the first round but he (Kelly) was upset by Dave Cooke (#8, NC) 6-5 in the semi's.

It is always best to argue when you are correct. Good catch.

 

[Btbw1968]

It makes sense that the wrestler that wins 3rd would have more falls. Consolation wrestlers have lots of injuries and they will go aggressive and get thrown to their backs.

 

[oberebo]

Great question

• 26% of Gorrirans also won individual championshps.
• More, 31%, came in third.
• But the ones who won average more pins.

 

[oberebo]

Thanks for the Info !

 

[Chasingthirty-five]

It makes sense that the wrestler that wins 3rd would have more falls. Consolation wrestlers have lots of injuries and they will go aggressive and get thrown to their backs.

Agreed but his chart shows the winners still averaged more.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

It makes sense that the wrestler that wins 3rd would have more falls. Consolation wrestlers have lots of injuries and they will go aggressive and get thrown to their backs.

I don't know if it has as much to do with injury as it has to do with opportunity. Third place wrestlers get more matches than first place wrestlers.

 

[Btbw1968]

I think both are a factor. There seems to be more falls in the consolation rounds than championship brackets.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

I think both are a factor. There seems to be more falls in the consolation rounds than championship brackets.

Over the past ten tournaments it is almost identical. 306 for the championship side vs 308 for the consolation side.

The major difference is that the lion's share of pins on the championship side happen in round of 32 (which is also the largest round) whereas on the consolation side they are spread out among more, smaller rounds, making it feel like more happen on the consolation side. But if you consolidate the consolation rounds - group the two rounds of 16, the two rounds of 8, the two rounds of 4 - they are virtually identical to the championship side equivalents.