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From the article on the front page about 4* recruit Mario Goodrich on what he learned while on his official visit this weekend.

"I mean, I learned that Coach (Mike) Riley is not going to get fired, basically, and that's always good," Goodrich stated as to what new he learned while on his visit, and he added, "Coach Donte (Williams) for sure is going to be there."

Well, alrighty then.
Well there we have it, the cat is out of the bag!
 

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So UNL is just going hire another ret


I don't know any reason to keep Riley and any of his staff

I won't believe any rumors until I hear it officially from NU

After Callahan, Bo and Riley absolutely nothing will surprise me
I know three things:

Mr. Moos will let us know what he plans to do regarding the Coaching Staff when he's ready.

None of us know what that decision will be, regardless of what anyone says.

Mr. Moos is not going to look for guidance from this site, or ask anyone of us what we think of what he plans to do.

Other than that, it's wide open.
 

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The staff surely isn't going to tell a recruit that were all going to be fired after the season....

Of course he said their not going to be fired.
 

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I know three things:



None of us know what that decision will be, regardless of what anyone says.

Mr. Moos is not going to look for guidance from this site, or ask anyone of us what we think of what he plans to do.
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Are you sure about these things? There are those on this board that make it their business to know everything, right down to the microscopic details. ;)
 

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The staff surely isn't going to tell a recruit that were all going to be fired after the season....

Of course he said their not going to be fired.
Maybe Nebraska learned something from when Callahan was fired and to a lesser extent Pelini -Is it possible they told these coaches that of they found out any negative recruiting was going on or they were not doing their jobs they would be fired without pay
 

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Are you sure about these things? There are those on this board that make it their business to know everything, right down to the microscopic details. ;)
I do truly believe they mean well. And I love their passion...even when I think they are dead wrong. :)
 

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Your wrong on this one old Pal on a few accounts. The take home change is not $410K per year. The SIT deduction he'd pick up living in NE is would decrease his US tax by around $162K, so gotta factor that in. Also, income is taxable to the state in which you earn it in, not where you live necessarily. So he's likely paying state income tax on road games to states like Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, etc when he'd be coaching games in those state. I am fairly certain that apportioning game day salary is special to non-game day salary (meaning that a good chunk of your money is earned on game days and it's not pro-rata based on days). State tax law and the Multi- State Tax Compact is complicating. It's something I don't know the complete ins and outs of a coaching profession but actually do understand it for Baseball players and various other entities.

So your tax saving $ is a lot less. Then you factor in a COLA adjustment, I am confident, economically $6 million in NE is worth more than $6 million in Florida. No matter how you look at it. Not to bust you but just to educate on some misconceptions. Trust me, I have my fair sure of misunderstandings too. You know that. This is just one of those areas I have a lot of education and time in


At the risk of being called a bunch of names I am going to weigh in on this. I did some research just to make sure I am not talking stupid. Assuming all athletes are employees of a team they are taxed based on their residence. So if I play for Miami but live in California then I pay taxes on the state I live in. Now it is different if I go to a state and actually work there at a job that originates there. That is different than if I live in Florida and go play a game in California. If I lived in Florida and went to Cali and took a job that paid a wage then I would have to file a return there.

Just going across the state lines to work doesn't change anything. You are still working for your employer wherever he sends you but where you live is the key factor. Can you imagine the truck drivers tax returns? Some of them are in multiple states each year.

I have no idea what a COLA (cost of living adjustment) has to do with taxes.

Contract labor is a totally different animal. You are basically self employed at that point and have all sorts of tax obligations and tax advantages. Not sure why you even brought that up.

Players and coaches are paid an agreed to amount and divided by the number of pay periods they have - monthly, weekly, two times a month, etc. Never heard that one game was more valuable than another. They are all the same unless you can show some weird example out there besides just an opinion.

Not sure what the SIT deduction is. You would have to explain that one to me, googled it.

Please tell me who your tax adviser is so I do not use them.
 

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:D I could see Riley staying IF Frost in fact isn't interested. The Fire Mike group had better be ready for it. I guarantee you that there would be staff changes IF Riley stayed but who knows. IF we can't get Frost and we're being told no by the agents of all the hot names out there do you go for another unproven assistant OR do you make Riley hire some different coordinators and an O line coach? Getting the right guy to take this job has been proven to be very difficult lately yes?
That's the only way I would accept it if SF didn't want the job but they better at least try hard to get him..
 

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He implied the opposite with Sharp today. I hope I’m misreading them.

You are not misreading. Frost will NOT be our next coach. He will be a Gator. Will be fun to see the implosion among Husker fans once he goes elsewhere. Riley will laugh while retiring back in Corvallis. For what he's endured this season from the Best Fans in College Football, I hope he enjoys himself on our dime.
 
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You are not misreading. Frost will NOT be our next coach. He will be a Gator. Will be fun to see the implosion among Husker fans once he goes elsewhere. Riley will laugh while retiring back in Corvallis. For what he's endured this season from the Best Fans in College Football, I hope he enjoys himself on our dime.
Methinks you are not a Husker fan. ..because no fan would say this.
 

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You are not misreading. Frost will NOT be our next coach. He will be a Gator. Will be fun to see the implosion among Husker fans once he goes elsewhere. Riley will laugh while retiring back in Corvallis. For what he's endured this season from the Best Fans in College Football, I hope he enjoys himself on our dime.
You know as much about what will happen as anyone else on here - which is zero.
 
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From the article on the front page about 4* recruit Mario Goodrich on what he learned while on his official visit this weekend.

"I mean, I learned that Coach (Mike) Riley is not going to get fired, basically, and that's always good," Goodrich stated as to what new he learned while on his visit, and he added, "Coach Donte (Williams) for sure is going to be there."

Well, alrighty then.
Maybe Riley isn't going to be fired. Maybe he is going to be allowed to "retire".
 

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You are not misreading. Frost will NOT be our next coach. He will be a Gator. Will be fun to see the implosion among Husker fans once he goes elsewhere. Riley will laugh while retiring back in Corvallis. For what he's endured this season from the Best Fans in College Football, I hope he enjoys himself on our dime.
Why are you even here?
Start a mike Riley message board on some other site, he obviously means more to you than Nebraska does.
 

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You are not misreading. Frost will NOT be our next coach. He will be a Gator. Will be fun to see the implosion among Husker fans once he goes elsewhere. Riley will laugh while retiring back in Corvallis. For what he's endured this season from the Best Fans in College Football, I hope he enjoys himself on our dime.

....and what has he 'endured' this season from NU fans? I think it has been pretty tame at the games and even on here, considering the product that MR has put on the field in year three.

Have a good night night, Dee. Tell your husband to make sure to take some boxes with him to work on Black Friday. He's going to need something to put his stuff in his office in.
 
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You are not misreading. Frost will NOT be our next coach. He will be a Gator. Will be fun to see the implosion among Husker fans once he goes elsewhere. Riley will laugh while retiring back in Corvallis. For what he's endured this season from the Best Fans in College Football, I hope he enjoys himself on our dime.
Ya give me a break explain how Riley has been mistreated by the fans. These same fans are still going to games even though the product on the field is bad. If this was another program the seats would be half empty by now. I am actually amazed and impressed by the fans they are there each week, and are not booing even though almost everyone one of them knows what they are watching is bad
 
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You are not misreading. Frost will NOT be our next coach. He will be a Gator. Will be fun to see the implosion among Husker fans once he goes elsewhere. Riley will laugh while retiring back in Corvallis. For what he's endured this season from the Best Fans in College Football, I hope he enjoys himself on our dime.

What, 85k+ fans, many of whom drove hours to get there, filling a stadium for a 0.500 team in November?
 

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What, 85k+ fans, many of whom drove hours to get there, filling a stadium for a 0.500 team in November?
With the level of fan support that has continued, the response has been tame. First and foremost, that is simply the nature of the fans. Second, Green and Bounds deserve credit for canning Eichorst early in the season. This actually gave Riley a chance, and when he failed, helped make the inevitable transition easier.
 

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At the risk of being called a bunch of names I am going to weigh in on this. I did some research just to make sure I am not talking stupid. Assuming all athletes are employees of a team they are taxed based on their residence. So if I play for Miami but live in California then I pay taxes on the state I live in. Now it is different if I go to a state and actually work there at a job that originates there. That is different than if I live in Florida and go play a game in California. If I lived in Florida and went to Cali and took a job that paid a wage then I would have to file a return there.

Just going across the state lines to work doesn't change anything. You are still working for your employer wherever he sends you but where you live is the key factor. Can you imagine the truck drivers tax returns? Some of them are in multiple states each year.

I have no idea what a COLA (cost of living adjustment) has to do with taxes.

Contract labor is a totally different animal. You are basically self employed at that point and have all sorts of tax obligations and tax advantages. Not sure why you even brought that up.

Players and coaches are paid an agreed to amount and divided by the number of pay periods they have - monthly, weekly, two times a month, etc. Never heard that one game was more valuable than another. They are all the same unless you can show some weird example out there besides just an opinion.

Not sure what the SIT deduction is. You would have to explain that one to me, googled it.

Please tell me who your tax adviser is so I do not use them.

You are totally wrong. I have a CPA license and research via legal software not google searches. Players and coaches apportion taxes to states via "Duty Days" but people know it as "Jock Taxes" . If you want a license to research this information, CCH.com is pretty good. But below are a couple of articles about it. (these articles are not authoritative, only regs, court rulings, and the states tax code, etc. are authoritative really. However, you need a subscription for the most part for that stuff. so I can't link).

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/12/sports/sp-jock-tax12
http://www.pressherald.com/2015/06/28/pro-athletes-pay-a-big-price-for-their-success-in-taxes/

SIT deduction is "State income tax" deduction. Pretty much the most basic itemized deduction there is. Who does your taxes?

COLA had to do with the economic wealth, not taxes. As I stated. Reread my original post you idiot where i state "economically" and not "tax wise" and econmically it makes a lot of difference. Sorry you can't keep up.

Also note every state is different the way they tax. Some home states tax everything and give a tax credit to taxes paid to other states. Some states, such as South Carolina only tax their own income generally. Below is a helpful website.

http://www.mtc.gov/The-Commission/Multistate-Tax-Compact

Generally speaking, de minims law set in for Service workers. So the only workers that usually have to end up apportioning income is those that have wages that go directly into the product such as contractors. (note didn't say independent contractors, contractors can have payroll) . But even that is not always. It varies from state to state, etc. Nexus laws are always the first place to look.

But back to the main topic, Athletes are taxed by each state they play in (if that state has a state income tax). So are coaches. Again, it's based off of duty days. I don't know how many duty days they are given or how that math works. I don't work for a MLB team, etc. But I am pretty sure if you have 4 road games, I doubt only 4 of 365 days is taxed to those states. It's much higher. 1 duty day doesn't necessarily = 1 work day. It doesn't in baseball. That you can find on your own. Also, college coaches probably have to factor in recruiting trips too. But again not sure.

But I do know any geek on the street that has taken a tax law class knows about duty days and how athletes & coaches having to apportion income to multiple states. The case was a landmark case and one that most professors try to teach in class since its some what interesting. Also, read stories about why Vernon Wells found it more profitable to be cut then to play.

Whatever your job is, don't quit it. You wouldn't make a good CPA or financial planner. Google searches don't work in those fields. You have to have better research tools and the thing about law and tax, you hardly ever come away with home runs. Theres always questions. Nothing is ever cut an dry. The fact that you tried to do google searches on this and now you think you have it makes me think your probably a narcissist.
 
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Moos said in an interview today that no decision has yet been made on Riley's future at NU.
Therefore... if Goodrich was told by someone that Riley is definitely not getting fired, then that person was wrong or lied.
Or maybe Moos lied in the interview, which is doubtful in the extreme.

I just wish they would stop this damn circus, get off their collective asses, and fire the guy, or say he is coming back.
Time to move on from this uncertainty
What more do you need to see of this season to make the decision one way or the other?
 

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Moos said in an interview today that no decision has yet been made on Riley's future at NU.
Therefore... if Goodrich was told by someone that Riley is definitely not getting fired, then that person was wrong or lied.
Or maybe Moos lied in the interview, which is doubtful in the extreme.

I just wish they would stop this damn circus, get off their collective asses, and fire the guy, or say he is coming back.
Time to move on from this uncertainty
What more do you need to see of this season to make the decision one way or the other?
After Iowa Riley will be out the door. The Moos has a plan. ;)
 

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Moos said in an interview today that no decision has yet been made on Riley's future at NU.
Therefore... if Goodrich was told by someone that Riley is definitely not getting fired, then that person was wrong or lied.
Or maybe Moos lied in the interview, which is doubtful in the extreme.

I just wish they would stop this damn circus, get off their collective asses, and fire the guy, or say he is coming back.
Time to move on from this uncertainty
What more do you need to see of this season to make the decision one way or the other?

“No decision made yet” is typically not good for those that it refers to
 
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“No decision made yet” is typically not good for those that it refers to
I agree. And I have been back and forth all over the map on whether or not they should just fire Riley now. I am currently leaning in the fire Riley now view. But that will probably change tomorrow
 

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I agree. And I have been back and forth all over the map on whether or not they should just fire Riley now. I am currently leaning in the fire Riley now view. But that will probably change tomorrow

I understand why people want this, but Moos said it won’t happen. I don’t think he’s the type to say one thing and do another. Riley will be coach through the Iowa game
 

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As i just got done telling swatted. Moos already gave his word so to speak, that he wouldnt fire a coach in season unless there was some bad conduct that demanded it. He is keeping his word thus far. I dont see anything to read into it beyond that.
 
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As i just got done telling swatted. Moos already gave his word so to speak, that he wouldnt fire a coach in season unless there was some bad conduct that demanded it. He is keeping his word thus far. I dont see anything to read into it beyond that.

Agreed. And I don’t think it’s hurting us Frost wise. Moos can still work back channels to get another coach and Frost will be the head coach at Nebraska next year if he wants to be. Florida hasn’t benefitted from firing their HC early. The only reason the made the move now was to try and use the death threats comments as a way to get out of the buy out.
 
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Agreed. And I don’t think it’s hurting us Frost wise. Moos can still work back channels to get another coach and Frost will be the head coach at Nebraska next year if he wants to be. Florida hasn’t benefitted from firing their HC early. The only reason the made the move now was to try and use the death threats comments as a way to get out of the buy out.
Bingo on McElwain. That really was the only reason they fired when they did. They had just cause. Saved them millions.
But in my gut reaction to the Goodrich comments, I just felt sick for these poor recruits who are being sincere, mature, and really seem to love Husker football, but are being dinked around by someone and left to believe things that aren't true.
 

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Moos said in an interview today that no decision has yet been made on Riley's future at NU.
Therefore... if Goodrich was told by someone that Riley is definitely not getting fired, then that person was wrong or lied.
Or maybe Moos lied in the interview, which is doubtful in the extreme.

I just wish they would stop this damn circus, get off their collective asses, and fire the guy, or say he is coming back.
Time to move on from this uncertainty
What more do you need to see of this season to make the decision one way or the other?
They win out, meaning beat Penn State and Minnesota on the road and also beat Iowa at home. We may not think it would matter, but it would show progress. Moos wants to see the whole body of work, we can't fault him for that. I guarantee you he has been in contact with other coaching candidates, but that doesn't mean he has made up his mind yet
 
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They win out, meaning beat Penn State and Minnesota on the road and also beat Iowa at home. We may not think it would matter, but it would show progress. Moos wants to see the whole body of work, we can't fault him for that. I guarantee you he has been in contact with other coaching candidates, but that doesn't mean he has made up his mind yet
I think he has made up his mind. He will fire Riley. It just does no good to say that now.
He wasn't hired to retain Riley. Riley's fate was sealed the moment the clock read 0:00 after the NIU game
 

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I agree. And I have been back and forth all over the map on whether or not they should just fire Riley now. I am currently leaning in the fire Riley now view. But that will probably change tomorrow

No disrespect but why is that even a thing.

Moos already said no to the whole mid season thing when he came in and further followed up on bahe that’s he’s connected and can move behind the scenes if he needs to.

When Riley goes is basically irrelevant to the whole frost hunt
 
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No disrespect but why is that even a thing.

Moos already said no to the whole mid season thing when he came in and further followed up on bahe that’s he’s connected and can move behind the scenes if he needs to.

When Riley goes is basically irrelevant to the whole frost hunt
You are correct sir. Should not be an issue.
 

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Mike Riley better get fired for the sake of Nebraska Football. If Mike Riley is retained you will have legions of Nebraska fans giving up all hope. It would be a disaster.