Could be both, I have no clue. Stranger things have and could happen. How about a change to a zone read O? Heck, I am "as in the know" as anyone else on here. I just want to try and not say too many really ridiculous things though. Maybe I just did! lol
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Could be both, I have no clue. Stranger things have and could happen. How about a change to a zone read O? Heck, I am "as in the know" as anyone else on here. I just want to try and not say too many really ridiculous things though. Maybe I just did! lol
I'll take it.
However, if he loses out, he'd accomplish something not done since the Jennings era. I know which scenario Vegas says is more likely.............
Your wrong on this one old Pal on a few accounts. The take home change is not $410K per year. The SIT deduction he'd pick up living in NE is would decrease his US tax by around $162K, so gotta factor that in. Also, income is taxable to the state in which you earn it in, not where you live necessarily. So he's likely paying state income tax on road games to states like Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, etc when he'd be coaching games in those state. I am fairly certain that apportioning game day salary is special to non-game day salary (meaning that a good chunk of your money is earned on game days and it's not pro-rata based on days). State tax law and the Multi- State Tax Compact is complicating. It's something I don't know the complete ins and outs of a coaching profession but actually do understand it for Baseball players and various other entities.
So your tax saving $ is a lot less. Then you factor in a COLA adjustment, I am confident, economically $6 million in NE is worth more than $6 million in Florida. No matter how you look at it. Not to bust you but just to educate on some misconceptions. Trust me, I have my fair sure of misunderstandings too. You know that. This is just one of those areas I have a lot of education and time in
Hi Tuco, hope you're having a good day. Hey, any chance you could go on the Florida board and do your best work to argue that Frost is actually just another Phil Montgomery at Tulsa? This could discourage Florida fan base with Frost and help our chances.
He’s in the game threads bitching along with everyone else so I wouldn’t exactly say that he doesn’t care..
This!!.. The fact SE was canned right after the NIU game was in fact a reaction to the product on the football field I would say. I'm not saying there weren't other reasons that SE was fired. But the hiring of MR is #1 I would say... MR will be gone after Iowa.
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I tend to agree, if Frost isn't intersted. I could see Riley staying and many assistants shown the door.I could see Riley staying IF Frost in fact isn't interested. The Fire Mike group had better be ready for it. I guarantee you that there would be staff changes IF Riley stayed but who knows. IF we can't get Frost and we're being told no by the agents of all the hot names out there do you go for another unproven assistant OR do you make Riley hire some different coordinators and an O line coach? Getting the right guy to take this job has been proven to be very difficult lately yes?
Although I wouldn't take this recruits word as Gold. I am guessing he did not have a private conversation with Moos. He is going off of what the coaches probably told him. Coaches who until they are actully fired, are trying to get him to come here. Moos is the only guy who I would trust at this point.
This is why I like Riley as a person. He knows, and has told his staff, they have an incentive to do the best job they can, they need to show they can still recruit. They will be interviewing for their next jobs and it doesn't make rational sense to go down the scorched earth Pelini style.
You think people who are not Nebraska fans don't already consider you there?
Bingo, If Riley is here next year I am guessing that consecutive sellout streak will be broken by game 1. The record is all the school has left as a part of the historic past. They will do everything in their power to keep it. Riley is a small price to pay.
It has never been to this extent. Trust me I'm down in the heart of the haymarket and I have never seen the number of tickets going unused and cheap. And this has been for some really good games.
The only way I see the sell out streak continuing next year is if Frost is here. That will draw the people back.
I think it highly unlikely that Riley will be retained. As in, almost certain he won't.
I think it is also unlikely that we will keep Riley but force him to fire Cav and Langs. He has already fired two assistants and a coordinator. Now he will fire two more? And if we fire Langs what does that mean? That we also want Riley to change his style of offense? And even if he hires new guys, will they be worth a ****? Not certain Diaco is an upgrade over Banker and the verdict is still out on Parella (not good so far) so his ability to identify quality assistants seems lacking.
And folks... hiring quality assistants who can recruit AND coach AND be a life role model to young men (and I mean you coach dui) is the coin of the realm. That IS how you build a quality program. That is a huge reason guys like Snyder and Osborne were successful. You identify good assistants and then you get them to stick around.
So for Bill Moos to keep Riley but force him to fire assistants, is like saying "I think Riley is a good coach and worth keeping. I just don't think he picks good assistants." But that is just plain nonsense. Hiring assistants is probably the most important thing a coach does.
Riley is NOT coming back
I think it is also unlikely that we will keep Riley but force him to fire Cav and Langs. He has already fired two assistants and a coordinator. Now he will fire two more? And if we fire Langs what does that mean? That we also want Riley to change his style of offense? And even if he hires new guys, will they be worth a ****? Not certain Diaco is an upgrade over Banker and the verdict is still out on Parella (not good so far) so his ability to identify quality assistants seems lacking.
And folks... hiring quality assistants who can recruit AND coach AND be a life role model to young men (and I mean you coach dui) is the coin of the realm. That IS how you build a quality program. That is a huge reason guys like Snyder and Osborne were successful. You identify good assistants and then you get them to stick around.
So for Bill Moos to keep Riley but force him to fire assistants, is like saying "I think Riley is a good coach and worth keeping. I just don't think he picks good assistants." But that is just plain nonsense. Hiring assistants is probably the most important thing a coach does.
Riley is NOT coming back
How confident are you in Frost coming? I have a hard time getting a feel. Have heard absolutley no and absolutley yes. lol
If we retain Riley and Frost goes to Florida... there will be some angry people around these parts
I think Frost will come here. But I think it is 60-40 or 70-30. I heard something the other day that gives me hope. But I really hate to put unsubstantiated rumors out there. You can end up looking like a fool.
I know that is a big tease but I really can't put it out here. But in answering your question I wanted to give you some reason for my optimism.
I saw a tweet posted by a Fl fan the other day. It looked like he retweeted it from Frost acount or a reply Frost had made. It said something like. "having a baby soon. Babies get sick easily and it is better to raise them in sun than snow".
I went back to try and find the tweet and couldn't. So not sure if it was actually from Frost or a fake account.
Athletes and coaches are taxed on where their franchise or home operations is. They are not taxed on where the games are played. I used to work for a Texas based corporation, I did work in Oklahoma Arkansas Louisiana Florida Tennessee and never once was I taxed in those states for the work I did in those states. The accounting nightmares that would be created for recruiting alone would be overwhelming. 2 hours in Georgia, Mr. Frost you make $2,800 per hour and have worked in Georgia 20 hours this year. That 56,000 is taxed at the Georgia rate.
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I know Adam Carriker seems pretty confident Frost is coming too. He seems to hint at knowing something.
I think we have to wait until the week following the Iowa game. Nothing will be known until then.
I have a good friend in Lincoln who is pretty well connected. I was back for the Iowa game the year before Bo was fired. This friend told me it was a done deal that Bo was going to be fired right after the game. His buddies who are big boosters and connected to regents assured him it was happening. Well it didn't and Bo wasn't fired until after the Iowa game the next year. So much for rumors
If any one thinks politics are cheaper in Florida I have a swamp to sell you. No state tax is more than compensated for by other taxes there is no free lunch anywhere in the US
A revolving door of assistant coaches won't solve the problem. Although I think Riley is a very intelligent coach, his teams are soft and would never threaten to win the conference. Besides he can't afford any more offensive or defensive transition years. We need a total culture change. No matter what schemes we run we need a return to passionate, physical football.
Bo didn't have two losing seasons in three years. Bo had his supporters. Riley has next to none. The fan base was not as universally against Bo as this one is right now with Riley. Riley wasn't hired by Osborne. And Eichorst was replacing a legendary retired AD. He wasn't a mid season AD replacement for the AD who got fired after a humiliating football loss like Moos is.
Mike Riley is going to get fired
It was obvious by Bo's behavior he thought it was happening too. Also, Eichorst's odd statement of support after that game was perplexing as he let it fester and could have squashed it, but "He doesn't comment on coaches during the season". Eichorst thought he had Chris Petersen set to take the job, but he didn't, thus Bo wasn't fired (so I've heard).
I can promise you the $30,000 to $40,000 in property taxes on his $2 million dollar home in Gainesville won’t be the same as the amount he pays in state income tax in Nebraska. Sales tax is Gainesville is 6.25, what is it in Lincoln 7.25?
I have no real break down on it but living in a state with no state income tax, I will tell you there is no free lunch. Buy a car here in King county especially a nice car and it will cost you thousands to just license the vehicle, Excise tax on property sales of 1.78% - high sales tax high gas tax, soda and candy tax you name it its taxed - Florida is no different - In fact there have been many studies that show it cheaper tax wise to tax payers to have a state income tax than not
Wrong again. As for your experience, you either worked for a firm that didn't follow proper law or your just full of ****. Research the term "duty days" for athletes and coaches. I get that you love to think your a know it all but your not.
As far as you personally, not paying taxes to those states doesn't mean you followed the law. For one, 2 out of 5 of those states you listed are non-taxable states, so of course you didn't pay income taxes to those states. And some states do have a de minimis rules so if you make very little money, then your probably following inside the law. And this also depends a lot on the industry you work in, and if your an employee vs a contract labor can be a factor. Example: My wife works for a major company and is in New York 2 weeks ever quarter, the law has ruled this de minimis. However, I consult for a contractor firm in Missouri that has workers going into Kansas, Arkansas, and Oklahoma and yes, we have to apportion their pay to each state. This is fact. The difference is their industry and each states law.
And if your so sure that you were not suppose to pay taxes on pay to the state of Arkansas (for example) forward me your information or the information of your company. I actually know the person in charge of the Department of Finance down there. You sure enough, that you'd be ok with them being audited?
For the guy making $100k and buying a $200k home, I would agree. But a guy making $5,000,000 per year I don’t think so. Why do you think so many retired athletes live in Texas and Florida and not in California and New York?
And maybe they are. Again, industry and immateriality does come into play. However, I do find it hard to believe since you named Arkansas and Oklahoma (those states want to claim everything as theirs). But I will give you that. And I do know your talking out of your *** again on something you have no education on and that you will continually fight over it with absolutely no basis or experience in it. Which honestly makes me discredit everything you state.
So UNL is just going hire another ret
I don't know any reason to keep Riley and any of his staff
I won't believe any rumors until I hear it officially from NU
After Callahan, Bo and Riley absolutely nothing will surprise me