Golding...
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"*Flagship*" lives on the premise that there is no such thing as bad publicity. They absolutely love seeing "Ole Miss" pop up on TV no matter what the reason is.
Lacy back too. People saying but they lost their offensive coordinator. Those players will make a lot of offensive coordinators look good.
This is how you can tell you’ve taken a massive L. I’d tell you to wear it like a man, but I’m confident that’s not possible. Just keep holding out hope for the NCAA. I’m sure it’s just around the corner. You and Bracky Brett can hold hands while you wait. Maybe work on another piece of **** magazine to convince yourself you’re clever. Lots of options to bide your time.
Exactly. These morons are so blind they think observable facts are just anti-MSU propaganda. Give me a break. If Lebby had put together the season OM just had, only complete buffoons would be critical.
But the main guy who "put together" last season for olemiss is gone. Y'all might be slobbing the wrong knob.
I believe we might not know for sure if you're slobbing the right knob until next year, after Lane's players are gone, and after Trinny finally exhausts his eligibility (theoretically, unless they can find yet another loophole) when it starts to actually be Coach Galifianakis' team.
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Golding =TEMU Orgeron.Speaks on the announcement of tampering investigation into his program. What's obvious here is that the only reason Ole Miss would let this goofball blabber on about this is that they are ready to cut bait at the first opportunity and try to hire a real coach.
It's their built-in out.
Ole Miss coach Pete Golding navigating post-Lane Kiffin era, pushes back on NCAA tampering investigation
Pete Golding is ready to take aim at fellow competitors if the NCAA decides to hit Ole Miss with tampering penalties.www.on3.com
No my point is Golding and this coaching staff are not Kiffin & Company from last season. It’s completely unknown but some of yall act like nothing changed and they just pick it up like nothing happened. Theres alot of unknowns in this equation.
It’s not just the OC. They lost the man who put that roster together in Lane . Yes they won two games in the playoffs but that was still the lane roster and staff
These are the coaches that left
- Lane Kiffin: Head Coach
- Charlie Weis Jr.: Offensive Coordinator / Quarterbacks Coach
- Kevin Smith: Running Backs Coach
- Joe Cox: Co-Offensive Coordinator / Tight Ends Coach
- George McDonald: Passing Game Coordinator / Receivers Coach
Two quick questions from reading all of this thread. 1. Who has the better recruiting class us or OM? No long drawn answers just simple. Us or them? 2. Does anybody expect the NCAA to do anything? If there is anybody that thinks the NCAA is going to really do anything, then hit me up with a dm I have some ocean front property in Arizona I would love to talk about with you.
OM has two inquiries going on currently. One with multiple allegations of tampering from the NCAA.
OM has also multiple investigations into “pay for play” allegations from the CSC which governs the Rev share and NIL.
On the recruiting front. Why is it that OM and others are getting players through the portals that the star ranking from HS is carried over to the portal star rankings with little to no stats? For instance these players we signed in the portal all had four star rankings in HS but yet now they are three star. These players have similar stats to what OM signed. Below is our signees HS rankings
Riley 4 star,
Love 4 star
McVay 4 star
Miller 4 star
Gilbert 4 star
Evans 4 star
Chester 4 star
Williams 4 star
Rashada 4 star
Johnson. 4 star
Grimsley 4 star
Dolby 4 star
Nash 4 star
So why don’t we get the benefit of the doubt like OM is getting
Three conversations happening side by side:
1. Some of us have zero faith the NCAA can or even would “hammer” anyone, much less OM. If they’ve been hammered before, they seem to have weathered it just fine.
2. Golding vs Kiffin. Highly doubtful Golding can maintain what Kiffin built. At the same time, he did beat UGA on a neutral field albeit with a team Kiffin built. We’ll see I guess.
3. Recruiting class comparison which I’m ignoring because I can’t keep up with recruiting. Kudos to those who can.
1. Some of us have zero faith the NCAA can or even would “hammer” anyone, much less OM. If they’ve been hammered before, they seem to have weathered it just fine.
2. Golding vs Kiffin. Highly doubtful Golding can maintain what Kiffin built. At the same time, he did beat UGA on a neutral field albeit with a team Kiffin built. We’ll see I guess.
3. Recruiting class comparison which I’m ignoring because I can’t keep up with recruiting. Kudos to those who can.
Ole Miss has had a better ranked recruiting class literally every year but two or three since 2000 or so when they started ranking them. Go look. It doesn't matter if your coach and program are a train wreck as they frequently have been.
Have y'all heard Golding try to put together two coherent sentences? It doesn't go well.
Again, it's amazing to me that Lane Kiffin has a clearer view of Ole Miss's value than your typical Sixpack poster.
My post earlier is PG has experience and a good nucleus. He’s a Saban disciple FWIW. The jury’s out. But OM has done a great job raising money and spending it, less baseball and basketball. We lucked up on Trinidad. A grad assistant found him on a video. Our starter goes down early and subsequently LK hits the LA lottery. My point is it takes money, a GM picking players and spend, then some luck. Most SEC coaches win if all falls in place.
Because these players have done nothing since HS, thus why they’re now evaluated as 3* players. News flash, players evaluations move up or down based on their production.
I agree with all this except that he has experience. If being a coordinator = head coach experience, then Lebby had 'experience' too.
All the rest is true.
I don't see golding being the next Saban or even Kiffin, but some people (olemiss fans and a few scared to death State fans, it seems) believe he is. We will see, but my guess is we won't really know until after this coming season. Y'all will win most of your games this year, unless 1 of the 2 key guys get hurt. The real answer will be the following season.
I don’t think anyone thinks Golding is the next Saban (or even Kiffin). But it’s ridiculous to think he’s the next Croom (or Lebby). And yes. They did get very lucky with Chambliss.
Agree, every year is a reload and we all basically start from scratch. Money, scouting & luck. Honestly IMO the organization is more important than the coach going forward. Think the Saban idolization has sailed. We both are facing the most brutal schedule almost every year. What could go wrong?
I was responding to the olemiss fan who said he was a Saban disciple, so maybe KWSN doesn't but it certainly seems like some people might think that way. Hell, just reading some of the comments in this thread makes me believe there are State people who think he is.
Again, I am looking for simple answers. Us or them? I am sure the NCAA will release a statement condemning their actions, or hit them with some meaningless punishment. If you have looked at NCAA enforcement over the past decade, and think they will really do anything other than meaningless stuff to save face, then we are watching two different organizations. The hammer ain’t coming, moral outrage which means nothing maybe, but no hammer.
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Heck even his own supporting link shows they’re out recruiting us badly.
Majority of OM recruits haven’t done jack either. Chester has been a starter on the lsu OL last two years yet he’s down graded and Currie, who’s already been arrested mind you played in 8 total games. Your trying hard to make us look bad and facts don’t really help you
Chester started 2 years ago but was demoted. Only started last game of season last year & only played in 7 games. So we got a backup OL from a down lsu team who knew his days in BR were over. Offers from South Carolina, GA Tech & Baylor.
He’s clearly not Arnett, their boosters are much smarter than our boosters. no other program would pull the brain dead crap that was pulled prior to the 23 season, essentially nuking the program.
Where I would question PG and Ole Miss is the new OC ? Is he going to be a downgrade, is he stupid enough to change what’s working for them ? Did Ole Miss under invest in the their O line other than the big Currin kid from LSU at OT ?
they will be salty on defense, they signed top edges and good linebackers . some big DTs, safety and cb.
I think on paper they have the roster on paper to get back to the playoffs, but O line depth/injuries and a change at OC could do them in.
That’s +- one game, I haven’t looked at their schedule.
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@txas, @oklhoma
Georgia and LSU at home and LSU is early like their third game. 9-3 sounds right. Probably not going to make the playoffs. if their offense is really good, then they got a shot. Defense should be good.
I worry as much about what third tier ole miss is doing as I do what North Dakota state is working on. They can’t even get a coach to stick with them in their best year in school history. Why should we?
Well, we do go head to head with them in recruiting. And we play them every year.
I don't so much "worry" about what they are doing, I would describe it as I "watch with interest and hope they lose every game in every sport they ever play, then their dog shitts on their rug after every game" about what they are doing.
Have we ever? Seems like State always takes their licks instead of actually fighting the NCAA and the "system." Being content with what the NCAA has to say is one thing that has always bothered me about State.
Some schools are serious about winning football programs. We are not one of those schools.
NDSU is a goldmine in terms of o line play. Something we should pay attention to.