"Go to HELL, Bin Laden, GO TO HELL"

Deltaduckhunter

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Ah yes, the game that broke Jackie Sherrill and the Joe Lee defense. We came into the game with a decent ranking and expected to have a stout defense again. Lou Holtz ran a QB draw on Joe Lee's blitzing D and picked up a huge chunk. Joe Lee just kept blitzing and Lou Holtz kept on QB drawing for big plays. Joe Lee's D was never the same after he was exposed in this game. This was my Senior year at State, so I can't complain. Jackie and Joe Lee gave me some good experiences during my college days in the previous years.
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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Ah yes, the game that broke Jackie Sherrill and the Joe Lee defense. We came into the game with a decent ranking and expected to have a stout defense again. Lou Holtz ran a QB draw on Joe Lee's blitzing D and picked up a huge chunk. Joe Lee just kept blitzing and Lou Holtz kept on QB drawing for big plays. Joe Lee's D was never the same after he was exposed in this game. This was my Senior year at State, so I can't complain. Jackie and Joe Lee gave me some good experiences during my college days in the previous years.
Offense was trash that day too.
 
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Ah yes, the game that broke Jackie Sherrill and the Joe Lee defense. We came into the game with a decent ranking and expected to have a stout defense again. Lou Holtz ran a QB draw on Joe Lee's blitzing D and picked up a huge chunk. Joe Lee just kept blitzing and Lou Holtz kept on QB drawing for big plays. Joe Lee's D was never the same after he was exposed in this game. This was my Senior year at State, so I can't complain. Jackie and Joe Lee gave me some good experiences during my college days in the previous years.
Yep that game was the beginning of the end for JWS and JLD
 
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ckDOG

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That was a quick change of emotions for me. Thought for a split second he was pulling out the GTHOM but immediately was relieved and in agreement when it was a GTHBL instead. Time/place and such.

GTHBL.
 

OG Goat Holder

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Ah yes, the game that broke Jackie Sherrill and the Joe Lee defense. We came into the game with a decent ranking and expected to have a stout defense again. Lou Holtz ran a QB draw on Joe Lee's blitzing D and picked up a huge chunk. Joe Lee just kept blitzing and Lou Holtz kept on QB drawing for big plays. Joe Lee's D was never the same after he was exposed in this game. This was my Senior year at State, so I can't complain. Jackie and Joe Lee gave me some good experiences during my college days in the previous years.
South Carolina seemed to 17 us up a lot back in the day, in weird spots when we had something on the line. Cost us a special 2000 season, sent us on the downward spiral in 2001. Believe they kicked the shlt out of Croom's best team too.

Seems like they whipped one of Jackie's early teams too, when we were having a good year.
 

Deltaduckhunter

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South Carolina seemed to 17 us up a lot back in the day, in weird spots when we had something on the line. Cost us a special 2000 season, sent us on the downward spiral in 2001. Believe they kicked the shlt out of Croom's best team too.

Seems like they whipped one of Jackie's early teams too, when we were having a good year.
No doubt, one of those years our defense had been controlling them much of the game. Their QB got knocked out of the game, which seemed like was already QB2, and in came QB3 who had never played a college down in his career. If memory serves me right, his first play was a deep touchdown pass and they went on to win.
 

99dawg

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South Carolina seemed to 17 us up a lot back in the day, in weird spots when we had something on the line. Cost us a special 2000 season, sent us on the downward spiral in 2001. Believe they kicked the shlt out of Croom's best team too.

Seems like they whipped one of Jackie's early teams too, when we were having a good year.
I remember 1995 when South Carolina had Tanneyhill at QB and Duce Staley at RB. They whipped us proper and put up 65 points or something.
 

Willow Grove Dawg

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No doubt, one of those years our defense had been controlling them much of the game. Their QB got knocked out of the game, which seemed like was already QB2, and in came QB3 who had never played a college down in his career. If memory serves me right, his first play was a deep touchdown pass and they went on to win.
2000 - we knocked Phil Petty out of the game & backup Eric Kimrey thru a dime for a TD on 4th & approximately a mile very late in the game maybe the last minute.
 

o_Hot Rock

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We promised to not forget. I didn't but America has seemed to forget what happened.

15 of 19 hijackers were Saudi Citizens. 2 from UAE, one each Egypt and Lebanon. Osama Bin Laden was a Saudi.

Two Saudi Gov't officials are known to have met two of the hijackers and helped them find apartments.

Then the Royal Family was allegedly involved and many think they funded the whole operation. Plenty of information that you can look up on it if you like.

Our sitting President has taken Billions from the Saudi's. Why? What did he give them in return? You don't believe me, Google Saudi Trump financial ties and see what you get. Turmp's Son-in-law, Kuschner, got 2 billion to invest in a new private equity firm of which he had no experience running. Lots of money has flowed into all parts of Trump properties outside of that 2 billion. Much of it as licensing fees with no real service provided.

I can't believe any American can accept this sort of behavior as being OK from anyone but certainly not our President but I bet a dollar someone will say... no that didn't happen or that's just business or that was 25 years ago or he didn't rape those women much less those children on Epstein island.... wait that's a different thingy.
 

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John Deaux VII

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Seems like they whipped one of Jackie's early teams too, when we were having a good year.
That is correct. In 1992, we started the year with a win over Texas in Austin. After our annual loss to LSU, we pulled the big upset over Florida on a Thursday Night and then beat Auburn the next week. We went to South Carolina at 4-1. South Carolina was 0-5. Steve Taneyhill was a freshman and got his first start. The result was predictible. The game is available on a USC archive site, if anyone would like a refresher.

 

OG Goat Holder

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That is correct. In 1992, we started the year with a win over Texas in Austin. After our annual loss to LSU, we pulled the big upset over Florida on a Thursday Night and then beat Auburn the next week. We went to South Carolina at 4-1. South Carolina was 0-5. Steve Taneyhill was a freshman and got his first start. The result was predictible. The game is available on a USC archive site, if anyone would like a refresher.

Those were my formative years of MSU football. I think maybe everybody gets an idea in their heads around 8-12 years old. That was the end of Rockey and the beginning of Jackie for me. I had even convinced myself that MSU was a good program and the Rockey years were the aberration.

Then that game happened. Then we lost to Bama and Ole Miss. And these things kept happening.
 
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MSUDC11-2.0

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Ah yes, the game that broke Jackie Sherrill and the Joe Lee defense. We came into the game with a decent ranking and expected to have a stout defense again. Lou Holtz ran a QB draw on Joe Lee's blitzing D and picked up a huge chunk. Joe Lee just kept blitzing and Lou Holtz kept on QB drawing for big plays. Joe Lee's D was never the same after he was exposed in this game. This was my Senior year at State, so I can't complain. Jackie and Joe Lee gave me some good experiences during my college days in the previous years.

I would argue that JLD’s defense broke in 2000 given all the leads we blew and high scoring games we found ourselves in.

That team was a frustrating one. 4 losses and all 4 were in games we led by at least 9 points.
 
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I would argue that JLD’s defense broke in 2000 given all the leads we blew and high scoring games we found ourselves in.

That team was a frustrating one. 4 losses and all 4 were in games we led by at least 9 points.
Most talented roster we've ever had. But they just didn't have that edge in them that the previous year's team had. Tends to happen when a have-not program has a year like 1999......folks get a little complacent.

But we had lost some real talent off that 1999 defense (Bean, Cooper, Simpson, McKinley). I'd say Jackie's handling of the crootin broke things more than JLD's defense. Then of course in 2001 we were total trash with those AZ Western guys.

Secondary had a few flops that year. Kendall Roberson was in class with me and he's the one that gave up the bomb to South Carolina. He was a great player in 98 but never really recovered after his knee injury.
 

MSUDC11-2.0

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Most talented roster we've ever had. But they just didn't have that edge in them that the previous year's team had. Tends to happen when a have-not program has a year like 1999......folks get a little complacent.

But we had lost some real talent off that 1999 defense (Bean, Cooper, Simpson, McKinley). I'd say Jackie's handling of the crootin broke things more than JLD's defense. Then of course in 2001 we were total trash with those AZ Western guys.

Secondary had a few flops that year. Kendall Roberson was in class with me and he's the one that gave up the bomb to South Carolina. He was a great player in 98 but never really recovered after his knee injury.

I was a kid and ‘99 is the first season I kinda remember. Have done a lot of revisiting those teams over the years.

There were warning signs in 01 beginning with the Memphis game on Labor Day night. But it probably wasn’t until the trip to Gainesville before everyone realized just how much of a bind we were suddenly in.
 
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Bullldawg78

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One of my favorite moments of that game was the Governor of Mississippi welcoming America back to college football at the "People's University" made me smile. Not to be political but miss the country being united like it was at that time. Now let's go take out the Varmint Cong tomorrow, Hail State!
 
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