I have, but he actually did well last weekend. Start Boaz, but literally have Caden in the bullpen before first pitch. I just remember him doing really poorly during his only start against dook, and USC isn’t dook. If we start Caden and he doesn’t do well, then what? I know it’s all hands on deck minus Jason, but it just seems risky to me. That all being said, I trust Forbes.
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If we start Caden, and he has a rough start and gets pulled, what good does that do us?
i hear your points ... was just trying to provide some context and comparison of two very special Tar Heel freshman in somewhat similar scenarios ... all good
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Boaz was good against GT and ECU the first time through. Maybe use him like an opener, as we have the luxury of Duff, Globe and Rose rested.
How does it not make sense? His ERA is above 7maybe, just me ... but your logic completely escapes me
1. "Starting Boaz makes no sense."
2. "I just can’t justify a guy that’s been a let down all season to start the biggest game of the year."
seriously ... SMDH
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I thought he threw about as well as he could have last week and still gave up 5 hits in 3 innings and got bailed out by McDuffie. If he goes out there and gives up 3 or 4 runs in the first 2 innings and you end up losing then Forbes will catch a lot of heat.
Gotta hit tomorrow. I’m not too worried about pitching but gotta hit.
It blows my mind that people are really trying to act like starting Boaz in this game tomorrow is the right move. He has the worst ERA on the WHOLE TEAM. And we just saw what he did in the ACC Championship. Not saying he couldn’t go out and shove but the past and everything we have seen all year has shown that is unlikely. Idk
He has the experience. Yes, he hasn’t been great, but he was good last weekend. Start him but have Caden ready quickly. If Caden starts and doesn’t do well, then what do we do? Starting a freshman in an elimination game is a ton of pressure.
I look at it as if Glauber doesn’t throw well then we weren’t going to win anyways. Glauber is going to have to throw regardless. I would rather ride my stud from the start than having him come in while being down 3 or 4 and then he’s just trying to pitch to avoid a blowout. I’ve always had the mentality of riding your studs in big spots. Especially him. He has elite stuff and I think he has the mentality to handle it.
I’ve thought on it a lot. I would start Boaz and I think Forbes will too. If he can go one time through the lineup and get 6-9 outs, anything after that is pure gravy and comes with a short leash. Get Glauber in there in the 3rd or 4th inning and if he’s on…..
This is right. Boaz is the opener. If he can get us 2+, then it’s some combination of Globe, McDuffie, Rose, and Matty to finish it out. Boaz has to be on a short leash. And the bats have to show up.
I'd be shocked if we scored 10 runs tomorrow.
USC's pitching staff has been even better than ours this season. And I wouldn't expect our staff to give up 10 either.
Doubt Coach agrees w us, but I'm w u. I'd start Glauber, then go w Rose, then McDuffie if need be.
Personally, I would start McDuffie and go with him as long as he’s doing the job. Once he no longer can, I’ll bring in globe and let him finish the game. Hopefully you get at least two maybe three innings from McDuffie.
The last sentence in this is the most critical.
This. Hopefully Boaz gets through their lineup once cleanly. Folder for 2+, Glauber for 4-5, and Rose/Walker to close it out
If Boaz had not looked good last time out, I’d go Globe, but given that Folger did look pretty good, I think you start him and turn to Globe at the first sign of any issue.
Or you start the guy who has 27 starts instead of the guy who has 2. The leash can be short, but you don’t change who you are at this point in the season
I think you go with Boaz, but he’ll be on a short leash
Think we'll see Globe in the 3rd. Leash for Folger should be extremely short
How many lefties does USC have in the lineup? Folger seems to struggle most against left heavy lineups.
Y'all are the same folks who, for the last three weeks, have been insisting that Jason DeCaro couldn't (a) pitch in the clutch or (b) pitch for length.
Why not comment on a different topic?
Or, better yet, start another Bass thread. A chorus of know-it-alls might be just what we need to jump start Carolina's hitting with RISP.
Completely agree. If Boaz can get us once through the rotation with essentially no damage, we're on house money with him. He'd probably be over 50 pitches by that point. Boaz likely would get a second time through opportunity, but with short leash...something like two on and one out.
Posted this in another thread so, apologies for the redundancy, but Boaz is USED to starting the third game of a series. Globe is USED to pitching in relief. Why not stick with roles that players are accustomed to, especially knowing that if Boaz is off, you can bring in Globe for starter-like innings if necessary? Starting pitching has not been an issue in games 1 or 2 so far, and I don't see any advantage to messing up established (and effective) routines that have worked well in 3 game series this year.
These guys have established routines and approaches to preparation. Saying that Globe should start because he has better metrics is a bit too black and white, IMHO. It doesn't take into account the mental aspect of the game. Someone has mentioned the possibility of being down 3-4 runs if Boaz starts, but I don't think Forbes would let it get to that. If Boaz has location/movement issues, he comes out early (before real damage gets done) and Globe pitches starter's innings. But on the other hand, every inning that Boaz can cobble together three outs puts us at that much more of an advantage. I just can't see how the lemon is worth the squeeze to shake things up, especially sending a freshman to start for the third time ever in a deciding game of a super regional, no matter how good he has been in relief.
These guys have established routines and approaches to preparation. Saying that Globe should start because he has better metrics is a bit too black and white, IMHO. It doesn't take into account the mental aspect of the game. Someone has mentioned the possibility of being down 3-4 runs if Boaz starts, but I don't think Forbes would let it get to that. If Boaz has location/movement issues, he comes out early (before real damage gets done) and Globe pitches starter's innings. But on the other hand, every inning that Boaz can cobble together three outs puts us at that much more of an advantage. I just can't see how the lemon is worth the squeeze to shake things up, especially sending a freshman to start for the third time ever in a deciding game of a super regional, no matter how good he has been in relief.
Ideally, think we’d get 3 from Boaz, 5 from Glauber and 1 from Walker. Similar to our Saturday win in the regional (except boaz instead of Jason)
You have to account for the actual situations, though. Coming into ECU, McDuffie had thrown in both the previous games and Caden had thrown 4.1 innings the day before. Plus, Carolina jumped out to a big early lead. AND there was the possibility of needing to play on Monday. It made complete sense to ride with Boaz until he got into a jam in the fourth.
Today is a winner take all and we have a rested bullpen. ideally, Boaz (if he starts) eats six-nine outs and gives Forbes options in case either McDuffie or Cayden falter. And worst case scenario, Boaz gets into an early jam today and gets pulled immediately. They won’t keep him long enough to give up that many runs.
