We actually played pretty well on defense until fatigue came into play and also ran the ball decently well. However, Preston Stone is a human trash bag. He has a weak arm, can’t read a defense and has zero pocket awareness. Boe cannot be worse and leaving Stone in there just tells the team we aren’t trying to win.
Give me Boe
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I think Braun/Lujan have to prepare Boe (if he is the solid QB2) to be ready to come in early. If Stone gets 2 turnovers in a game from here on, he should come out at that point and we roll with whatever Boe can do.
The net difference might not be that bad given how much Stone's turnovers and sacks hurt us. If Boe is more mobile and more likely to scramble for 3 yards instead of forcing an INT or holding onto the ball and taking an 8 yard sack, we might be able to play some ball control.
The net difference might not be that bad given how much Stone's turnovers and sacks hurt us. If Boe is more mobile and more likely to scramble for 3 yards instead of forcing an INT or holding onto the ball and taking an 8 yard sack, we might be able to play some ball control.
You have a bye week to prepare Boe. Let’s do it.
If NU goes to Boe, it will be the same mistake as last year when they went to Lausch. The first interception was clearly pass interference. The Oregon DB had grabbed Wilde around the right arm and chest and he could not raise his right arm to make a 2 handed catch. The second interception was terrible as was the fumble.
I still think Stone gives us the best chance to win a couple of B1G games
The WRs dropped multiple passes that killed drives
Wilde ran a nice out route to the sideline by using a simple jab step to completely turn around the DB.
I still think Stone gives us the best chance to win a couple of B1G games
The WRs dropped multiple passes that killed drives
Wilde ran a nice out route to the sideline by using a simple jab step to completely turn around the DB.
We’ve seen that Stone can play well against bad teams. May we well ride him with a short leash. UCLA looks awful and should be a win after the bye.
The next time he turns the ball over multiple times should be the last.
The next time he turns the ball over multiple times should be the last.
Zero penalties on Oregon? Are you kidding me? What big ten team besides Ohio State doesn't lose by 14 in this scenario? Same as Tulane game! Just horrible officiating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed that UCLA is where the rubber meets the road with Stone. The throws are there but he’s had 1-2 hideous plays per game vs Tulane and Oregon. Cant have it. Need to see it against a team where we’re less overmatched.
No way Jose! Stone had a much better arm than the Oregon kid! Stone didn't have one bad throw all day! Big time arm. As good,or better than Clayton Thorson!
The announcers mentioned it . The DB actually pulled Wilde back so he could not rotate to use his right arm, that is why he could only use his left arm. He might have been able to actually make the catch if the DB had not pinned his right arm.
If you taped the game , review that play
It’s not Stone, he’s a talented QB and the best NU currently has. Boe and Winton need developed. Frakes is a non starter and not sure why they picked him up and Romaine could be a great player just not at QB.
They called it fake news when I reported that a former coach told me that Stone was not good and had been beaten out by not one, but two quarterbacks at SMU and was going to be 3rd string.
It’s true if you look at his big year he was 10-2 as a starter with big numbers and few turnovers but he played only 2 P4 teams and against them he had 14 ppg, 1 TD and 3 INTs. Granted they were Oklahoma and TCU but perhaps SMU coaches saw that Stone was not necessarily going to have the horsepower to be QB1 when SMU made the transition to the ACC.
Stone has plenty of issues. In addition to the actual interceptions and phantom caused fumble, there were numerous other balls that he threw that could/should have been intercepted It seemed that there was plenty of reason to bench him
That is apparent now based on his performance. Sad but true: he looks like a bum out there.
Hopefully he can turn it around and get back to his best season’s level.
I will agree totally with you that Stone has looked bad.
I will also say there's no way we're benching our big-money NIL QB because of bad games against a Tulane team that's favored to make the CFP and an Oregon squad that's ... well ... an Oregon squad. We were 28 point underdogs for a multitude of reasons yesterday.
Looks bad against UCLA and ULM ..... then let's talk.
I will also say there's no way we're benching our big-money NIL QB because of bad games against a Tulane team that's favored to make the CFP and an Oregon squad that's ... well ... an Oregon squad. We were 28 point underdogs for a multitude of reasons yesterday.
Looks bad against UCLA and ULM ..... then let's talk.
Also give me 19 instead of 3…. Another cringey play by 3 and 10. At least 10 could block. Make him a TE! I’m jealous of the Purdoo receivers.
We're certainly all over the map on Stone, but having said that, personal attacks are infantile and uncalled for (OP). If you wouldn't say it to his face, rather than hiding behind your computer screen, STFU. This is also a bit like wanting to hire the greatest coach on earth to resurrect NU football. You don't really know what you are going to get until you have him. Look at coaches who have been successful at NU--Parseghian, Agase, Barnett, even Fitz (until his fall from Grace). Well, Fitz may have done himself in, but the others? NU f'd up in all cases. And they may do it again. Braun has inherited a mess, but he appears a capable coach--young, inexperienced, but don't trash him. He may not be not the right fit--or he may be. There were hopeful signs yesterday, for example, the defense played their hearts out against a team that has scored in the sixties its last two games. Two of their scores yesterday were the result of NU's offensive errors. And has anyone mentioned that Oregon beat PSU 45-17 last year? There have also been hopeful signs in NU firing Gragg and now Schill. What's worrisome is that they were hired in the first place. Don't put the current situation totally on the shoulders of the players and coaches. Yes, NU's offense is once again suspect, as it has been most of the past 30 years. This sort of consistency is often referred to as a tradition. Who do we blame for that, Braun, Lujan, Stone, Covey? If the powers that be don't recognize this, then god help HU football.
Ah, the favorite player on the team. The backup QB.
While true, early in the game, Stone made several throws that could have/ should have been intercepted. Yes it should have been PI but he still threw it into double/triple coverage. And that is the second phantom fumble he has had in two weeks.
It is still likely he is our best alternative and like it or not, Braun may not have the luxury of trying Boe because of his job status. Plus there are a $million other reasons Stone is likely remaining as our QB
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There is a link in one of the threads to a UTube summary of plays in the game and they replay it so you can find it on this site
Here is another link
It is early first drive About 1:30
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Exactly. The coach knows that he has to win this year to retain his job and I would assume if he believed that Boe gives him a better chance of that he would play that particular player instead of Stone.
The coaches should at least consider putting Boe in for some designed plays, but it seems based on last season that Lujan doesn't like to utilize more than one QB, but would rather sink or swim (last year sink) with the starter.
People bash Sully but Tulane has some really nice packages for him - one caught my eye against Duke which more OCs should take advantage of if they have a more mobile backup.
In particular: they had Sully line up as a running back next to their BYU rapist, take the handoff, fake a reverse, and find a man wide open to the right for the first down late in the game.
Too bad Lujan sucks at his job or we might see some creativity on offense.
He benched Wright for Lausch… who is now playing baseball.
It made little sense at the time. Neither were B1G QBs but Wright gave us the better chance to win.