Gary Nova...sour grapes?

[HeyHuey]

At the "head table"??? Yeah, uhm, not quite. Appreciate Gary for what he accomplished while here but let's not get crazy (and I'd like to think that he would tell you the same...).

Sounds like you don't appreciate what he accomplished. We're struggling to get back to where he was. I'll take the Michigan win

NCAA Collegiate Career statistics
Rutgers Scarlet Knights
Season Passing Rushing
Comp Att Yards Pct. TD Int QB Rating Att Yards Avg TD
2011 116 227 1,553 51.1 11 9 116.6 23 −114 −5.0 0
2012 221 388 2,695 57.0 22 16 125.8 22 −44 −2.0 0
2013 165 303 2,159 54.5 18 14 124.7 50 −93 −1.9 1
2014 187 327 2,851 57.2 22 12 145.3 45 −25 −0.6 3
Totals 689 1,245 9,258 55.3 73 51 129.0 140 -256 -1.8 4

 

[RU5781]

He should be happy Flood was hired. No one else would have turned their head at Smokey McPot like Flood did.

You mean like Greg schiano did with Anthony Davis and Kenny Britt ?

You were like 7 when they played.
Schiano followed University policy. Flood hid and didn’t make sure the drug tests were administered.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Sounds like you don't appreciate what he accomplished. We're struggling to get back to where he was. I'll take the Michigan win

NCAA Collegiate Career statistics
Rutgers Scarlet Knights
Season Passing Rushing
Comp Att Yards Pct. TD Int QB Rating Att Yards Avg TD
2011 116 227 1,553 51.1 11 9 116.6 23 −114 −5.0 0
2012 221 388 2,695 57.0 22 16 125.8 22 −44 −2.0 0
2013 165 303 2,159 54.5 18 14 124.7 50 −93 −1.9 1
2014 187 327 2,851 57.2 22 12 145.3 45 −25 −0.6 3
NCAA Career Totals 689 1,245 9,258 55.3 73 51 129.0 140 -256 -1.8 4

Well aware of what Gary did/didn't do here, thanks, he's still not at the "head table." Sorry.

 

[HeyHuey]

Well aware of what Gary did/didn't do here, thanks, he's still not at the "head table." Sorry.

Who then?

 

[Abro1975]

I’m guessing most of the Bosco guys weren’t happy when Campanile wasn’t brought back. Now he’s at Boston College. Teel not happy either it seems.
Go figure.

 

[LC-88]

He's probably the only person to be named Offensive Player of the Week in three different conferences. I'll cut him some slack.

 

[bitnez]

I was big Gary fan when he was here. Heck, I didn't even have an issue with the Kent St. fiasco. I agree that he has every right to say whatever he wants. At the same time, when you make public comments you open yourself up to public opinion. Thus, I also have no issue with anyone voicing displeasure with Gary's most recent comments.

 

[RUChoppin]

For those saying "Kill moved on due to health reasons" as some sort of "what could we do?" validation.... we knew that Kill's health was a risk when we hired him. We knew that there was a risk he'd only last 2 years or 1 year, and still brought him in as OC. And this, a year after bringing in the huge risk in wunderkind DM, who was a boom/bust choice who busted.

We can't take a guy who has clear upfront risks this time.... there can't be a 4th OC in Ash's 4th year, or Ash very well may not get a 5th year.

 

[formerlyknownasrutgers100]

You were like 7 when they played.
Schiano followed University policy. Flood hid and didn’t make sure the drug tests were administered.

I was 13 when Britt left, and 14 when ad did, and they smoked hella weed as do many of the players now. Flood sucks and was corrupt but don’t act like Gary Nova was the only one to ever smoke pot, if everyone were to be kicked off our team who did we would have few guys left

 

[BIGRUBIGDBIGredmachine]

He's probably the only person to be named Offensive Player of the Week in three different conferences. I'll cut him some slack.

Nova could throw a beautiful ball when his mechanics were on. Man he looked like Joe Montana in the rout over NC in Quick Lane bowl--of course that was after a full season under Fridge. His passing mechanics were terribly inconsistent unfortunately under his prior OCs. I bet if Nova had at least 2 years under Fridge he would've been a real good one---AND WOULD NOT HAVE OVERTHROWN KROFT TO SEAL THE GAME OVER JokePA St. in our B1G opener.

 

[krup]

He is 1000% correct in what he said. I've been saying it on here for a long time. A new OC every year absolutely destroys player development. Destroys.

The OC part of his complaint is dead on. Unfortunately he didn't stick with that and included 2 HCs and 3 conferences which makes him sound unintelligent.

 

[PSU_Nut_rivals17625]

I don't think they saw Kill as a band aid and they did not foresee him having more seizures. But they did not that it was a possibility. Either way I agree that the names being thrown around are much better this time around. I would love to have a steady coaching staff for 3 years to see what can be accomplished.

You have to be pretty stupid to think it was not highly likely to repeat itself. The guy did retire from coaching because he had a seizure one time. In his had more than 7 game day seizures. In his 5 years at Minnesota he only went one season where he didn't have a seizure. How can you honestly not foresee this happening? It was a bad hire if you are tying to establish any continuity.

 

[megadrone]

The OC part of his complaint is dead on. Unfortunately he didn't stick with that and included 2 HCs and 3 conferences which makes him sound unintelligent.

Yep, it's been a revolving door and we took on health risks twice (Fridge and Kill) and neither worked out over the long haul.

Pasqualoni and DeLeone are available if we want consistency, though.

 

[LevaosLectures]

It's will take a generation and Millenial misery to come to the conclusion you keep your mouth shut.

Something us adults were taught by the heavy hand of our fathers and learned.

Ooooooh. Mr. Tough Guy.

 

[tico brown]

So he's not allowed to state some of the same frustrations posted on this board?

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Who then?

Is this a joke? ALL-AMERICANS. Not-for-nothing but Teel, who has 5 of the 6 major category records** at RU (Nova just 1 of 6), doesn't even make the "head table."

** career, season, game, yards and TD's

 

[KT8813]

Wait. Nova was a Pitt commit before he was an RU commit. So I guess he would know about change! Time to grow up. I remember Flood (good or bad) pretty much babying him a lot

 

[HeyHuey]

Sounds like you don't appreciate what he accomplished. We're struggling to get back to where he was. I'll take the Michigan win

NCAA Collegiate Career statistics
Rutgers Scarlet Knights
Season Passing Rushing
Comp Att Yards Pct. TD Int QB Rating Att Yards Avg TD
2011 116 227 1,553 51.1 11 9 116.6 23 −114 −5.0 0
2012 221 388 2,695 57.0 22 16 125.8 22 −44 −2.0 0
2013 165 303 2,159 54.5 18 14 124.7 50 −93 −1.9 1
2014 187 327 2,851 57.2 22 12 145.3 45 −25 −0.6 3
Totals 689 1,245 9,258 55.3 73 51 129.0 140 -256 -1.8 4

Passing
Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
*2005 Rutgers Big East FR QB 9 51 101 50.5 683 6.8 2.7 2 10 94.0
*2006 Rutgers Big East SO QB 13 164 296 55.4 2135 7.2 6.0 12 13 120.6
*2007 Rutgers Big East JR QB 13 203 349 58.2 3147 9.0 8.5 20 13 145.4
*2008 Rutgers Big East SR QB 13 243 396 61.4 3418 8.6 8.4 25 13 148.1
Career Rutgers 661 1142 57.9 9383 8.2 7.3 59 49 135.4

No slam dunk here. No disrespect to Mike Teel at all. They both have a seat at the head table.

 

[RUBOB72]

Think Gary is pretty spot on and guess what ? ... he’s entitled to whine a bit... the guy was a fighter... never quit and he certainly could have...had we had a guy like Nova and a real OC not some 20 something kid in 2016 ( Merhringer) in charge we may have actually had a better outcome in several games...there is so much truth in his text... Nova’s play in the Penn State loss 2014 his play was not great but to use that as his benchmark moment is plain stupidity...Too many here (which includes 99.9% ) actually need to take a pause when former players vent...I sure as hell wish Nova was our QB this season ...

 

[satnom]

I was with him on post until complaining about OC change this year (Kill Health) and conference change jibber-jabber (RU price paid to leave sinking BE boat to AAC life raft to BIG firm ground). Guy is one of the most productive under appreciated RU football players of all time; and yes he should have been sat in Kent St, Va Tech and PSU games after first 3-4 ints in each game. Odd timing for pouting post. Now if he complained about all the posters on this board that complained about his games in the KSU, PSU, and VA Tech games and forgot about his play against Mich, Wash St, MD and UNC games then that would be another story.

GO RU

 

[joshk ru03]

You have to be pretty stupid to think it was not highly likely to repeat itself. The guy did retire from coaching because he had a seizure one time. In his had more than 7 game day seizures. In his 5 years at Minnesota he only went one season where he didn't have a seizure. How can you honestly not foresee this happening? It was a bad hire if you are tying to establish any continuity.

The guy hadn't had a seizure in how long before being hired? Obviously there was a chance but not enough for you to be calling someone stupid. And since his years at Minnesota he had taken card of his health, was exercising, eating right, and again had not had a seizure in quite some time. Hence the reason he took the job. Hell he was working 12 hour days at K State without any issues. So maybe you should go back and read his story of why he even considering coaching again.

 

[RUBOB72]

MozRu ... Agree with your post... it will change and these wussies who refuse to understand this now will only learn after it’s too late... call that the “get off my grass old man syndrome”... generational changes always come about and usually with many surprising outcomes...

 

[JMORC2003]

He’s over the line. Again.

 

[Bones131]

Nova is entitled to his opinion and everything he says is correct. It's not easy being a college athlete, in any way. RU didn't do him any favors by being ill-prepared for the Big Ten and having ZERO continuity at OC.

That said, posters should be defending his right to his opinion without lionizing Nova's performance. He threw 51 INTs and was unwatchable at times. Some of that certainly had to do with the lack of continuity at OC and the HC. But not all of it.

 

[RU5781]

He’s over the line. Again.

[roll]

 

[ddsmugs]

So one OC taught him to run over the line of scrimmage when passing. A second OC taught him to throw off his back foot and s third OC taught him to throw to the other team.... got it.

 

[Randal7]

"I loved my time at Rutgers"

"I gave all I had to that program"

"They make it hard to be proud of what is going on"


What the HELL is with that language? Does this kid even consider himself an alum? Does he even consider himself one of "us"?

Certainly doesn't sound like it.

 

[FRA10Thunderbolt]

GN speaks to truth! Rutgers needs stability at ALL coaching levels. Stability is key to the continued rebuild of the Rutgers football program.

 

[cicero grimes]

"I loved my time at Rutgers"

"I gave all I had to that program"

"They make it hard to be proud of what is going on"


What the HELL is with that language? Does this kid even consider himself an alum? Does he even consider himself one of "us"?

Certainly doesn't sound like it.

Is there tension between him and Ash?

 

[RU Mike73]

Conspiracy theory. Perhaps Gary is implying there was behind the scenes tension btw Ash and Kill and maybe Kill did not leave for health reasons alone.

Must have dug deep in the arse for that one.

 

[RU09FOOTBALL]

It's difficult in college football to find continuity at the coordinator positions. If you're too good, you leave and become a head coach somewhere else. If you're terrible, you get fired.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Passing
Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate
*2005 Rutgers Big East FR QB 9 51 101 50.5 683 6.8 2.7 2 10 94.0
*2006 Rutgers Big East SO QB 13 164 296 55.4 2135 7.2 6.0 12 13 120.6
*2007 Rutgers Big East JR QB 13 203 349 58.2 3147 9.0 8.5 20 13 145.4
*2008 Rutgers Big East SR QB 13 243 396 61.4 3418 8.6 8.4 25 13 148.1
Career Rutgers 661 1142 57.9 9383 8.2 7.3 59 49 135.4

No slam dunk here. No disrespect to Mike Teel at all. They both have a seat at the head table.

All-time yards: #2
Single Season Yards: #3
Single Game Yards: #3
All-Time TD's: #1
Single Season TD's: #2
Single Game TD's: #3

...I can play the same game. He IS NOT "at the head table." Neither is Mike. The "head table" should always be reserved for AA's. Sorry. Gary goes to, at best, table #3 AND THAT IS SAYING A LOT about the young man's career here. It was pretty damn good!

 

[ssstevem]

He’s over the line. Again.

Well done.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

1 strike left Cicero lol...

Conspiracy theory. Perhaps Gary is implying there was behind the scenes tension btw Ash and Kill and maybe Kill did not leave for health reasons alone.

Is there tension between him and Ash?

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Who then?

For the 3rd (or 4th) time:

ALL-AMERICANS

 

[formerlyknownasrutgers100]

For the 3rd (or 4th) time:

ALL-AMERICANS

So like 4 guys in the last 20 years

 

[ashokan]

QB is a complicated position that takes a lot of study and practice. To have to keep learning new plays/playbooks every year is a drag that Britt once described

"What’s behind the renaissance of a player once dismissed as a first-round bust? One factor might be a steadier relationship with his quarterback. Britt has already played with nine different starters – as well as six offensive coordinators – since entering the league, never catching passes from the same person through a full season.

“It’s kind of crazy,” Britt says. “Different quarterbacks, different coordinators, different playbooks – each year for me is like a new start and a new beginning. It’s like I’m a rookie again, all around.”

https://www.ocregister.com/2016/10/...-be-rams-first-1000-yard-wr-since-torry-holt/

 

[RUfromSoCal?]

I re-read the posts by Gary 3 times before responding.... actually, nothing seems too bad or untrue...

he had to deal with multiple coordinators and coaches over his career..... all leaving for more money and better opportunities, while he did the hard thing and stayed and worked and competed (all for no money)....

He took most of the heat - while others skipped town....

Some sour grapes that he never got a shot in the NFL?--- perhaps (I can't say).


His podcast (sideline hustle -- which I like a lot) - does discuss issues about what goes on behind the scenes of a D1 program... So, none of this should really be a surprise...

 

[AreYouNUTS]

So like 4 guys in the last 20 years

It is what it is...this isn't the Rock-n-Roll HOF...not everyone gets a seat at the head table IMHO. Sorry. Again, a huge Nova fan for what he accomplished here - do NOT get me wrong - just disagree that's he a "head table" guy.

 

[beaced_rivals]

He's whining about 3 different conferences? That's not something RU had any control over. AND, without us moving out of the hybrid BE/AAC, he'd have never experienced a game like the 2014 victory over Michigan.

Nova had an OUTSTANDING PLAY,shedding the LB and drilling a TD.Great replay to watch. A GAME WINNER.