Garrett Shrader
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Hopefully it’s just to see what other options he has out there. No matter what position he plays, GS is the type of dude I want on my football team.
I’m not a football coach, but I don’t think I’ll ever understand how a player like Shrader doesn’t get a chance at QB in this system. He is plenty capable of passing the ball and picked up Moorhead’s complicated system just fine. Why he hasn’t been given a couple of series just to see what he can do is something I probably won’t ever understand.
He just isn't accurate enough for leach. That's why.
Good for him trying to swap positions before this.
Agree, this is more or less a give away year. Why not see what you have in a guy before you let him just walk out the door. And I know we’re not in practice to evaluate but some guys are GREAT practice players and other guys are just gamers. Just like in business it’s cheaper and easier to keep an existing client happy than it is to go find new clients. Whether he suits ML’s style or not it’s easier to see what you have in a current highly recruited already wearing your uniform than it is to go find another another handful of nice QB recruits, get them on campus, get them committed, then teaching them the system. If you bought a new house that came with nice utilities chances are you at least see if the refrigerator works before you take it to the dump.
He was not a good passer. I don't believe him to even bean average passer for ncaa. Like him, and hope I'm wrong.
Hate it but I get it. I am putting him with Omar Conner and Aeres Williams as players who just got screwed over by being with the wrong coaches. I know he's probably not a plus passer, but if he goes to the right place, somebody should be able to use him. I know Mullen has a freshman QB, but if I were him, I'd be reaching out to Shrader as soon as the rules allow. Not sure SHrader will want to do it, but he has a RS year. He could go to UF, play 4 games next year, and then have three more years. There are worse things than being in college 6 years and leaving with a masters degree. If he's a good student he could leave with a double major and a masters, or possibly two masters degrees.
Hate that. Product of us going to the air raid and getting a coach that won’t adapt. Two coaches in a row. He couldn’t have done worse than Costello and certainly has more experience than will and he would definitely not slide if we needed the extra yard.
ya think ML needs a pure pocket passer to throw 5 yard passes ? Schrader can hit from 5 yards and ML probably could have done us all a favor by giving him a shot at least against Kentucky
I'm with you again trojandawg. I was on the same page with you even back to last season (even though we argued a ton), but I just didn't see the point in criticizing because I figured he was here at least another year. Now we've got the same issue with Leach, and we know he's here for another 2 years at minimum, probably the next 3 years. All we can do is hope for the best.
If this thing doesn't work, we're going to see a house-cleaning of epic proportions. It's a damn shame too, we would have lost all the momentum of the Mullen Era. At this point it's hard for me to think we could have done worse overall than just hiring Todd Grantham. I think he was ready to jump up to a new challenge. I think he's stagnant down at Florida in the same ole DC role.
If I'm being honest, I think we lost all that momentum anyway, no matter how it turns out. Our identity is just so much different now than it was back then. Oh well.
We lost the Mullen era momentum the day after he left. In less than 2 1/2 seasons, we have regressed to the Shira years. Really sad.
And do you think GS puts up with #8 limping off the field after every other hit the way that GS puts his body out there?
Could be part of some of the other issues we are hearing about. It doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with either side when it comes to the QB position but whoever is the guy has to really like the system and philosophy. Schrader is a tough competitor but maybe he isn't wired to be that kind of QB.
I'm sure he was given a chance to see how he would fit in practice, but he had to like playing that way to be good at it.
I just think he is a different style of QB if that is going to be his position. He tried to be a receiver so he at least tried to fit in to the system.
He will probably be very successful in a more traditional offense.
I just think he is a different style of QB if that is going to be his position. He tried to be a receiver so he at least tried to fit in to the system.
He will probably be very successful in a more traditional offense.
You realize that Costello has more yards passing now than Schrader had in a full season, right?
Schrader was not and will not be a good passer. Period.
i'm with you there. We are stuck with Leach after firing Moorhead. I'm willing to give Leach a little more leash because he does have a track record of installment and progressive seasons with different power 5 schools. So we are where we are with Leach. It's just frustrating to not see him adjust and use the run game and mobile qb. watching his form QB adapt his system in the NFL last night is just one of things that make you go hmmm. Most of his disciples like Kingsburg and Riley have adapt to using mobile QBS and various runs when given. You see those offenses able to move the ball again most anyone whether it's run or pass.
I agree with you also that we have lost our identity that we had built as tough bust you in the mouth football program putting players in the league left and right under Mullen. I will Arnett has brought back Bulldog defense. Leach has brought back discipline. I'm just want to see us have the same mentality on offense that the defense has. I just haven't seen it yet outside of one game. It just seems to passive. If the defense gives you the underneath and only rushes three you have to make them pay with that. I get our o line is bad, but adapt and tighten the splits. At OU they didn't agree with Leach on the splits and they ran tighter splits that work more effectively. Don't be stubborn to keep putting your players into something they can't execute. That's what guys like Moorhead and Croom do. It's been three games trying to do the same thing. have to change it up.
I agree with you also that we have lost our identity that we had built as tough bust you in the mouth football program putting players in the league left and right under Mullen. I will Arnett has brought back Bulldog defense. Leach has brought back discipline. I'm just want to see us have the same mentality on offense that the defense has. I just haven't seen it yet outside of one game. It just seems to passive. If the defense gives you the underneath and only rushes three you have to make them pay with that. I get our o line is bad, but adapt and tighten the splits. At OU they didn't agree with Leach on the splits and they ran tighter splits that work more effectively. Don't be stubborn to keep putting your players into something they can't execute. That's what guys like Moorhead and Croom do. It's been three games trying to do the same thing. have to change it up.
I was skeptical about him being a fit for Leach’s system the day we hired him, but I didn’t expect to see him moved to WR and never really getting a chance at QB.
It sucks, wish it had worked out differently because he’s a talented kid who has a bright future. This one feels different from KT because I actually thought Shrader was or could be a pretty good passer.
It sucks, wish it had worked out differently because he’s a talented kid who has a bright future. This one feels different from KT because I actually thought Shrader was or could be a pretty good passer.
Surely even a system coach like Leach understands to use what he has, and recruit to what you want to do. I don't want to waste a season, and I know he does not either. But I can't handle this bullheaded **** anymore. You're right, Kingsbury and Riley tell me all I need to know.
I still say Leach's system is just too sophisticated for the type of players we recruit.
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1. Costello literally broke records in his first game - you had to give him a few more shots to work things out.
2. The coaches have seen the QBs in practice, no one in this thread has.
3. Leach is going to run his system, so it is what it is. If it’s not working after 3 years, then we’ll have a new AD and Head Coach.
Sorry but that’s a poor comparison, 2 different type offenses, Costello’s numbers are so skewed because of LSU game and Shrader never played a down of QB in Leachs system. I’ll take it a step further, Costello 10 picks and at least 2 pick 6’s also 4 fumbles that led to scores. Don’t have Shraders stats from last year but I guarantee not even close to Costello’s turnover ratio. Also if given the right offense and coach I’m sure he would become a good passing QB. One final point you don’t have to be a great passer in Leachs system.
As an opposing fan, let me just say, I’m glad to see him leave. The kid is/was a competitor and winner, and I feel like he had to have been able to help in some way. I thought his willingness to make the move to WR said a lot about him, too. I hope he winds up outside of the SEC, because there are definitely some spots he could land within the conference and probably find a way to whip both our asses.
Saw his tweet on Finebaum
He said that he was a QB, and not a wide receiver,
That he had three years left to play, and that is what he wanted to do.
He said that he was a QB, and not a wide receiver,
That he had three years left to play, and that is what he wanted to do.
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