Stickum nothing. Southern has a Top 50 team in creating turnovers. We played into their hands on that.
Game Thread. Cats vs Southern
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Not to mention we just had a much needed WR transfer from Syracuse have to decommission Bc he couldn’t get eligible w UKs admissions. Almost every other major program would have cut corners and got the kid on campus.
Cal ‘s fault for not recruiting another viable center. You cannot depend on freshmen and Ware is not the answer.
I believe Allen has no confidence left. He’s over thinking everything and absolutely terrified of making a mistake. His shot is so rushed that it’s not a smooth shot anymore.
Honestly he needs to leave UK.
I hope he doesn’t leave but we all know he can shoot, idk what’s wrong with him. Sophomore slump they used to call it.
Do you guys have a cut and paste for that? Same morose drivel after every game. Paklids.
Cal has more final 4s at UK than UVA has in their entire history.
Honestly, I think it's two fold. He doesn't hustle all out on defense, so that's on him. In addition, Cal's offensive scheme (or lack thereof) doesn't help a player like Allen get into a rhythm.
It's obvious he has just lost all of his confidence AND feels so much pressure to shoot that he's forcing everything...even when he's wide open, he's not shooting it with confidence but forcing it.
Are you saying you don't think finals are very taxing for the basketball players, or it's not difficult at any of the UK colleges? I expect you think it's the former. Otherwise, that wouldn't speak too well for the University, you or both, right? I'm sure that's not the case. Good luck with finals.
I'm not in law school (graduated college YEARS ago lol), but I will weigh in and say no, I don't think finals in these freshman level classes these guys are taking are very taxing at all.
Did you not take your finals freshman year? Those are 100 level classes man. Cmon now.
Probably different for different people. Some find taking tests stressful, others do not.
Honestly tho the long layoff probably has more to do with it than anything else.
Honestly tho the long layoff probably has more to do with it than anything else.
Ohh, obviously I am going to need to break this down more to a more elementary level. I think the classes most of our team is taking aren't exactly difficult courses. Most of them are majoring in liberal arts ******** that is effortless. For instance: sports management, athletic training, african studies, sports marketing, general studies, intro to computing and so on aren't exactly difficult. Hell, half the classes just require you to write about how you feel about things. There are no right or wrong answers. So, no, I don't think their finals are that difficult. Other students in real courses are having a much harder time.
Thanks for breaking it down to a more elementary level. Now get off the message board and go study.
Anything I can do to help!Thanks for breaking it down to a more elementary level. Now get off the message board and go study.
Let me know when your Virginia Cavaliers catch lightning in a bottle for a 2nd time. Bennet has 2 elite 8s, Cal has twice as many final 4s here and 7 elite 8s here. Bennett is a good coach but keep him away from UK he wouldn't come close to getting the job done by our standards
Virginia has been better than is the last 5 - 6 years without question. Keep living in our last F4 over 6 years ago now. Hope those memories are keeping you content.
I love how we are supposed to just focus on specific years with this stuff.
We can't mention all the final fours and the title because that's too far in the distant past.
But we can't focus on things to recent tho either right. We have to forget the fact that this year UVA is 6-4 and not good. Or the fact they were a 4 seed last season and lost yet again in an upset in the first round to an Ohio team we just happened to beat by 18. Or the fact that even if there was a tournament in 2020, they were a projected 7 seed that wasn't going to do anything anyways.
I like Bennett. I think overall he's done well at UVA. But let's not cherry pick years here. Cal has had a much better run here than Bennett has had there overall.
We can't mention all the final fours and the title because that's too far in the distant past.
But we can't focus on things to recent tho either right. We have to forget the fact that this year UVA is 6-4 and not good. Or the fact they were a 4 seed last season and lost yet again in an upset in the first round to an Ohio team we just happened to beat by 18. Or the fact that even if there was a tournament in 2020, they were a projected 7 seed that wasn't going to do anything anyways.
I like Bennett. I think overall he's done well at UVA. But let's not cherry pick years here. Cal has had a much better run here than Bennett has had there overall.
Sounds like you're the one picking the time frame to best contruct an argument.
How are you going evaluate UVA this year when the season is barely 8 games in?
Does UVA being bad this year or last negate the fact they won a NC much more recently than we have and have been better over the last 5 or 6 seasons?
Who said you can't mention that Cal was successful a decade ago? However, it was still a long time ago. Are you supposed to just accept the fact we have been trending downward post 2015 simply because he used to be good before that?
Cal had a better run pre 2015. Bennett has had the better run since. They both have the same number of titles and Bennett has done it with much less money and talent. It's a very valid argument.
Our coach is making 9 million a year and you all are having to utilize success from over 6 years ago and E8's to defend him. That is so bush league.
the year is 2056, UK has not won a title in 40 years. Cals corpse is the coach. "GUYS IM SICK OF THIS ****, FIRE CAL"
some of these guys on rafters
"REMEMBER 2009-2015??"
I knew this game would be below par when the game thread was started incorrectly. Gotta use the *’s, and a lot of them. And thread title has to note “official.” Let me show you…..
*****Official Kentucky vs Southern Game Thread*****
this is proper, and can’t be overlooked. Props to @drew_ukfan for the attempt, but until we can get this cleaned up, expect these dull performances.
@Bkocats can surely attest.
*****Official Kentucky vs Southern Game Thread*****
this is proper, and can’t be overlooked. Props to @drew_ukfan for the attempt, but until we can get this cleaned up, expect these dull performances.
@Bkocats can surely attest.
That's funny because when you discount what Cal has done in the past, you're doing just that. Picking a timeframe to best construct your argument. I literally said in the last sentence I felt Cal has been better OVERALL than Bennett has been. If you feel differently that's fine but to focus on a specific timeframe I think is a bit ridiculous.
And it wasn't a decade ago. So we are just going to discount 2017 and 2019. We are going to say that Elite 8s aren't good seasons now. Because if we are looking at Bennett's entire run at UVA, he's only been past the elite 8 once in his entire tenure.
I mean you can't say those type of seasons aren't good for Cal but they are somehow good for Bennet. That's just being dishonest. They either count or they don't count as good seasons. Heck he's only past the S16 in two seasons. I see a bunch of first and second round exits in Bennett's tenure at UVA.
They have both been at their respectful schools the same period of time. Looking at things as a whole, I can't see how anyone would suggest that Bennett has been better. And if you want to look at a shorter timeframe as if that's some kind of indication going forward who will do better, lets be honest Bennett isn't looking so good right now either.
Who is discounting anything Cal has done?
I don’t think being honest that his success was a while ago is discounting it. It's called objectivity.
The first half of their tenure Cal was better. The 2nd half Bennett has been better.
2017 and 2019 were E8's. Is that your standard now? What do we get for making an E8? Is there a banner? Do you feel accomplished from getting there? Do you consider that a successful season? We have 16 final fours. Elite 8 don’t mean **** to most UK fans. It's getting very close to a decade since the last F4. It's been a decade since the NC. Cal has also missed the tournament twice in his tenure here. UVA hasn't missed it since 2013. Cal is at the biggest basketball school in the country with limitless resources, making 9mil a year. Yet morons like you are satisfied with ******* elite 8's and act like that is some kind of ******* accomplishment for UK to be proud of. What a ******* *****!
Those are great for Bennet and UVA. It's happened for UVA like 2 other times. That is literally the difference in UK vs UVA. How the **** do you not understand that?
Neither is Cal. Bennett at least has a recent NC he can claim. What's Cal got?
You are correct giving the framing you've set.
However, comparing Virginia to Kentucky isn't going to be persuasive because the vast majority on this board don't think its "like for like." Having results that are comparable to UK entails overcoming built in advantages in history and resources that UK enjoys. Virginia isn't supposed to be one of the top 5 teams. UK is.
OHHH that’s how it’s done. I let the board down, I let the fans down, I let the players down. I’m sorry for my amateur hour attempt
I’ll be signing off now and I’m not sure if I’ll be coming back
Ehh, ,I'm not a UVA fan, so I doubt I care, but it seems very likely he makes more. Particularly considering he came with in a round once before. Not to mention 2019 is considerably closer than 2015.
when was his shot ever smooth? its always had the shortened, rushed hitch where it looks like he just throws it up the difference is he's actually exerting himself now on the defensive end by playing his man and rebounding and he isnt just concentrating on hitting shots, not to mention if you remember last year outside of the two games against mississippi state he was a piss poor shooter....
Came within a round once before? Cal has done that 7 out of 11 seasons while here.
Edit: Didn't clarify first, my post was about the final 4
And UK had done it 32 times before Cal ever got here. UVA had been to 5, their last being 94. Not really sure how you don't see the obvious difference.
Right. I mean I'm just comparing the two coaches.
That isn't to say that Cal hasn't had a bad last 6 years by UK standards.
It's just I hear people saying that we should go after Bennett after Cal leaves and I'm of the mindset is do we really believe that's a better option.
Those built in advantages and resources didn't seem to help BCG. I don't believe the fact that a coach coming here would automatically be any better than they currently were at a different school. I think it could go either way IMO.
Talking about coaches here don't see how you see the obvious difference. Also it was 95 bub
So then by your definition of a good season Bennet has had one in the last decade at UVA. The title season. That's it.
Of course the standards are different here. No sh*t. But we are comparing two coaches and what they have done.
You can't be like well one coach got to an Elite 8 at UVA and the other coach got to the Elite at UK but since at UK Elite 8s don't matter we'll just say that doesn't count. I mean that's just dumb.
Bennett has 1 title. That's all. That's one good season by your definition.